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TwinFan 05-01-2013 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1125885)
Dan - go read the front page of the New York Times - there are far worse things going on in the world.

Thanks Kathleen. I wish some people would realize this.

I'm just really not that phased by this. I probably subconsciously saw it coming.

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Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1125951)
Hahaha! Well....yes. Because Rachael Sambora would still be the king of swing, the king of cool and still be....Richie.

Don't mean to go into specifics, but wouldn't that make him the queen of swing?

Jayster 05-01-2013 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheseDaysEra (Post 1126023)
all this talk about needing a break is bullcrap. this ain't the 80s anymore people. it's not like they're putting out a record every year and touring relentlessly. last tour ended in Lisbon on July 2011. This tour began a year and a half (!!!) after that. a year and a half IS A LOT OF TIME for a musician to rest his/her bones and take pleeeeeeeeenty of time off. what would they do with a 5 year break ? I don't see Jon going back to acting. It took em almost 4 years between the circle and WAN. 'twas enough time for Jon to write a few songs for a movie, TAKE PART in a movie which I don't want to see and finally, play a few one off gigs both a solo artist and with the band. Richie wrote and recorded a solo album and played a few shows. that's it ! they had plenty of time to rest and plenty of time to stay the hell away from each other. they're not in their 20s anymore. a whole year means one step closer to the grave. so, again, saying they 'need a break' is pure bullshit.

Clearly, it's not enough time for their creativity levels to recharge though!!!

Jayster 05-01-2013 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1126031)
That's not the "entire tour".

Well ok, 90 % of the tour is confirmed as not having him in it.

Or 27 out of 33 confirmed dates. And there is no confirmation he will be at the next North/South America leg.

StoneDeaf 05-01-2013 05:41 AM

For some perspective. First of all, no, I am not going to any gigs. But. As everyone is saying how Jon has gotten worse and worse performer over the years, so has Rich. With decent replacement the tour can still bring some rock to the house. But I doubt it. I still do think that Jon keeps the new guy in short leash and all they bring is "relevant" country-pop. So my opinion is that skipping the tour is win-win situation for any fan. Save the money and save yourself from disappointment.

Anyway, bottom line is that Bon Jovi is a BAND. Not just Jon and hired guns. Even if they manage to cook up decent European leg, it still won't be "our" Bon Jovi. The band people paid to see won't be performing.

Lyn Wo 05-01-2013 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by StoneDeaf (Post 1126049)
Anyway, bottom line is that Bon Jovi is a BAND. Not just Jon and hired guns. Even if they manage to cook up decent European leg, it still won't be "our" Bon Jovi. The band people paid to see won't be performing.

Yup, it will be Non Jovi.

Jayster 05-01-2013 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1126036)
To him it might be the entire tour, seeing that he is from Europe and those shows affect him. I shouldn't even be answering for the guy, for all I know, he might have heard something different.

The Europe shows don't affect me directly, as I live in Australia.

I am European though.... I find it a bit weird that you know that.

joloriquelme 05-01-2013 05:59 AM

In my last two or three posts, I've had different theories about what's happening. Some of them serious, some of them, maybe not.

But now, I'm just serious, after spending a couple hours thinking, as a human being.

This guy (Sambora) is a human being. He lost his father years ago, he ended their marriage and can't get this life together again. He even broke his arm in pieces a couple of tours ago and became addicted to painkillers, cancelled shows of his own solo tour due to <whatever>, went rehab, has a daughter in 'trouble years' (and his own ex wife went into rehab too in the past), got arrested by drinking driving, went AGAIN on rehab... endless list.

He's 50+, and he's nowhere.

Yet worse: is a rock star. A celebrity.

He hasn't got a normal Tour time with Bon Jovi since Bounce (I'm not kidding). Look:

Have A Nice Day
- 2006 broke his arm
- Fat, lack of energy, and, obviously, drunk on stage

Lost Highway
- 2007 went into rehab, missed their first show in BJs history
- 2008 arrested driving drunk

The Circle
- 2011 again, rehab, missed a complete Leg

What About Now
- 2013... missed the complete Tour so far

So, what's happening, REALLY:

This guy collapsed. Worse than drugs, worse than drinking, worse than painkillers: Mentally collapsed.

Is very anti-professional looking it from the 'fan' or 'concert attender' perspective. But that's it. With his 'crap life', every of us can be at the same situation.

Look at his last tweet: that's says very.

Maybe we just thank that he's alive, and not dead by commiting suicide. And stop asking for explanations, because he has private life.

That it their 'personal reason'.

Sorry for my english.

Jolo.

WillRunForChocolate 05-01-2013 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by joloriquelme (Post 1126053)
So, what's happening, REALLY:

This guy collapsed. Worse than drugs, worse than drinking, worse than painkillers: Mentally collapsed.

Is very anti-professional looking it from the 'fan' or 'concert attender' perspective. But that's it. With his 'crap life', every of us can be at the same situation.

Sadly, I think you may be right. It's hard to imagine a celebrity of Richie's caliber having a "crap life" like we might, but everyone has their own demons. Maybe someday we will find out the real story. For now, I feel sorry for Richie rather than feel anger towards him.

Who knows. Maybe I'm just emotional after watching some old Jon and Richie Unplugged videos. In any event, good post. I appreciate your insight.

rainsong 05-01-2013 06:21 AM

Well photos are up from a charity event that Jon did tonight and he doesn't look like a man under extreme stress, or a man that has had a serious falling out with one of his closest friends of last 30 years so.......... logic tells me that this "personal" issue with Richie is all about Richie and that maybe the only way to keep the band out of it is for him not to tour with them. Is it possible he got himself tied up in an outside venture that went bad and this outside venture is looking to recoup or get something from him and the only way he can keep the company Bon Jovi out of it is if he isn't working with them??

It would explain his silence on the matter, Jons inability to say anything as well other than "he's still in the band", and it would explain why the lenght of time Richie will be out is up for grabs.

Crushgen24/88 05-01-2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MrNickel (Post 1126027)
Ahhh I see, thanks for the info guys.

I remember the performance with All American Rejects, talk about a strange/random pairing.

Tyson Ritter and especially Nick Wheeler (The singer/bassist and guitar player respectively of AAR) are very big Jovi fans.


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