SUCKER. I took that throne.

False. You had POST 1000. I had REPLY 1000.

So take that.

One of the best replies so far, and I've read the whole ****ing thread.

Dear god, dat solo :lol:

Its so bad I have to keep rewinding it

i d really like to know what jon thinks of bobbys lead playing...on one hand he gives him at least 2 solos per show(too many imo), on the other hand how can he not hear that he butchers them? and jon also takes a couple of solo like all of a sudden their guitar chops became equal to richies...
if bobby should be up there i m fine with it but dont let him do any solos or be involved more than a back up session musician...

Heard it three times and still can't believe how bad it is. Just kick him out of the band, please.

Don't know what's up with bobby's playing really. He butchers some solos like, absolutely ****ing destroys any listenable quality they had, yet comes in and nails something like HAND or ILTT....

No shit.

Just listened to Phil on Raise Your Hands. He hit it better than Richie did.

This is why I think Jon is an asshole. He kicks Alec out for supposedly "compromising" what the band sounded like live. Bobby doesn't compromise it. He brutally butchers it to death.

He can't even do the background guitar on the It's My Life solo or on the Livin' In Sin one when they played it last tour. He adds nothing to the band, and isn't an official member, so I don't see the point of having him around.

Ha! You have a link of bobby "nailing" the solo in HAND? :confused:

You jumped too soon...

Greatest solo ever by Bobby:




So it looks like Richie is out for the rest of the leg of this tour. I remember reading an article that said that he might be back by the April 19th show in L.A.

Quality!

TMZ is who reported Richie wanted to be back with the band for his "hometown show" of LA. It was crap. Bj.com had posted with the original announcement that Richie would be out this whole leg.

That's what I figured -- this sucks. I'm going to the San Jose show and it wont be the same. At least I got cheap upper deck tickets instead of the ridiculous pit seats or whatever this time around. I would want them to cancel this leg of the tour. However, most people probably don't even care.

The solo is so embarrassing. He serves no purpose in the band. They would be better off using a backing track for filler parts.

WHAT!

But he's a human jukebox :(

man this whole thing sucks. Phil X stepping up as a replacement should have been a one time only thing. I'm not blaming the poor guy, he's a wonderful musician. On the other hand, I don't think it's fair to point our fingers at Jon for allowing the tour to go on.

We don't really know what's happened. What if there was no feud at all ? what if he REALLY needed to attend a personal matter of his, whatever it was ? What was Jon to do ? postpone the whole leg? The man's a workaholic and he believes that carrying on is the only thing to do.

My guess is that he doesn't realize how vital Richie Sambora is in that band in the eyes of the public. But then again, a lot of people couldn't care less who the 'backing band' is. They're there to watch a 'Jon Bon Jovi' show. This wouldn't happen in Europe and I guess Jon knows it.

on the other hand.. I'm truly sad and somewhat disgusted by all this. If this is bound to happen on every tour from now on, they might as well call it a day.

that c*nt should be tortured and left for the vultures to eat his eyeballs.

Where is Richie?? I know, I know that is the million dollar question and we would not have a hundred page thread if we knew the answer but where is he?

We see pics of the band from the tour but close to a week later and no one has seen Richie? TMZ who were so quick to jump on the story, haven't got a picture of him? Is he hiding somewhere, no one can find him? I think he could be in a detox program that really is the personal matter. Maybe not the full rehab experience as per last time but a program all the same.

He is always going to be a recovering acholic. Could it be while in Hawaii, he started drinking again? Not to the extent that he could not stand up but his on vacation, what's one beer? One wine? Then on the way back to the tour, he realized that it could be starting again and he just needed a little help again before going on the road. Jon said on stage life is full of bumps (bump in recovery?) But he will be back. He hasn't spoken to him (can't talk to patients in programs) No one is saying.

Or has this already been discussed and dismissed on page 50? Its just weird no one has spotted him. I've seen Heather and Ava since but no Richie.

Please . . .

Exactly, Richie doesn't show - whatever the reason - Jon's supposed to tell everyone their not getting paid until Richie shows up and to pack up and go home, or that it's all over?

I agree with Devilson that Richie had a hand in these great, great songs and it's painful to every fan of this band that he isn't there, but it can and should go on without him until he either gets back, or until this tour is done.

There probably isn't a feud at all. People just make this shit up because the band isn't telling the reason. It would certainly benefit Jon to announce whatever the real reason is instead of getting hammered by fans and the press for being a Big Bad Meanie. Jon's probably being a very good friend to Richie by letting Richie keep his personal business personal and taking the hit over it.

You do have a point because with the story breaking, false as I believe the stories are we've heard, you'll bet there will be reporters and paparazzi asking the same questions and looking for him too, and it's not like LA is some backwoods in Jersey.

Though I guess if I had a big mansion, I could hide out in it for years if I needed to. lol.

And that's exactly what I think's going on. That's what Bon Jovi do - they don't tell their secrets.

Yeah, right.

Someone else pointed out that he adds nothing to the show. It's worse than that. He detracts from it. He butchers solos, he looks like an ass up there, and he gets more attention from Jon than the rest of the band.

The more I think about it, I really think Richie did have a falling out with Jon. Jon acts like he's such a perfectionist, but I really think Richie is the one who cares about the quality of music. The best Bon Jovi songs are co-written by Richie. He's probably just sick and tired of Jon half-assing set lists and playing shit songs that nobody wants to hear. He probably told Jon, and there you go - Richie's sitting out for personal issues.

Oh here we go again - back to evil Jon, Saint Richie - give me a ****ing break!

There's still been absolutely no indication anywhere there was any falling out other than a TMZ article -which everywhere else has picked up on.

There's nothing in the behaviour of the band to support that argument. It doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but it certainly doesn't mean it has either.

Richie's far from a saint, but it's pretty well known what an asshole Jon is.

Over the years I have heard different reasons for Alec being fired:
1. Alec making too many mistakes due to his using/abusing
2. Alec not wanting to work as hard as Jon pushed everyone to do
3. Alec being told by Jon that he was a crap player
4. Alec telling Jon he was a crap songwriter
5. Alec saying too much to reporters, Jon telling him that no one wanted to hear what Alec has to say.
6. Most recent (from Jon): Alec wasn't fired, he just wanted to leave and bless him, he has stayed quiet over the years. He could have talked but he didn't. It is out of respect to him and the original 5 members that he will never be officially replaced.

When I look at early clips, I am struck with the "star" quality of Alec and the fact that he had a beautiful voice. To me it brought up the Mick Jagger / Brian Jones scenario. It is my understanding that Brian Jones gave Mick a run for his money in star material (in fact was originally the leader of the group in its formation) and Mick didn't like it.

Alec's leaving can't just be making mistakes or using; Richie has made too many mistakes for years and years and YEARS and ditto on using/abusing alcohol.

In 2001 a friend of mine went to Alec's house and he gladly let her and a friend go in and talk to him. She has pictures of inside of his house where he has achievements done with BJ all over the wall.

He said that he was fired and that he wanted to be back in the band. That was a earlier from the show where he did Wanted dead or alive with the band live. He wasn't resentful or anything, he just missed being in the band.

Back to the Richie mystery, I don't think it was a personal issue because it wasn't announced. The only thing that comes to my mind that would be kept a tight secret is something to do inside the band, be it a problem between band members or just a money issue. We've known right away about a lot of stuff that happened to the band and they didn't really keep quiet about it, unlike now.

http://youtu.be/7_dE1xBw4UM?t=1h17m11s

Of course it won't be as good as Richie but he hits all the notes and doesn't stay on any one note for too long. It sound fine....

I have silently been reading this thread and i am exstreamly saddened by what i am reading, as fans is it really our buisness to know what happen, were all getting hyped up by all these tabloids stories. The only reason they are putting them out there is to put us fans into a frenzy and were falling for it hook line and sinker. when its right maybe we will know. we know being fans that the band keeps private things private. as TRUE fans we should just sit back and wait, not fight, do Jon vrs Richie, usa fans vrs over seas. Like somone said a while ago don't everyone find it weird that no one has seen or heard from Richie, The Paparazzi usually hounds people and they haven't found him. I know its killing us all not knowing what is going on but is it really worth getting all worked up and having this forum be at 103 pages plus granted its entertaining but i really think we need to chill out.

You.. You just don't belong here. Sorry.

No harm is meant by this thread. It has taken a life of its own.

I think another statement, one that is *official* by Jon or Richie or the management reiterating "As previously noted, Richie's absence is a personal matter and we ask that you respect his privacy. He is missed, he will be back and in the meantime, the shows must go on and we are giving them all we got. Thank you for understanding." How hard would a release like this be to put out?

In the meantime, the cynical part of me is noting that this thread is giving them more media coverage and interest than they have had in a long time.

Chasing off a newcomer who has 2 posts to her name. Way to go! Everyone has a right to an opinion and to state that opinion.

Really? Who has called him an asshole? If its well known, I have never heard it. His a perfectionist, can be moody and tour time feels like the world is on his shoulder's but I've never heard anyone call him an asshole - aside from this board - no bandmates, workers, reporters. Asshole's don't keep the same members for 30 years, Asshole's don't keep the same crew's/photographer/record label. Asshole's don't have a 24 year marriage.

I agree with ^^^^

Jon's the biggest ass in rock music. And is the Devil for kicking out Richie.


There, I said it.

A sane post in this thread.

Haven't been in here in two days, and I feel like I've missed episodes of my favorite comedy.

Why? Because someone has a different opinion from you? Maybe you don't belong here if that's the case.