RonJovi |
05-01-2013 10:28 AM |
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Originally Posted by Beaky
(Post 1126082)
I am giving up my tickets, so I guess this is aimed at 'people like me' and frankly, you are such an amazing person and I wish I was more like you. I am such a bad fan and you are so dedicated and I am such a waster.
The fact that I wouldn't want to see a band that is no longer a band, a guy that can no longer sing and the main reason I wanted to go to the gig is no longer going to be there... on top of that, I actually chose to express my disappointment (and that's what it is, it's not b*tching, whining, moaning... disappointment comes when you care, when you're invested in something and when you can see it slowly crumbling before your eyes) that fact that I chose to express that, here, of all places, on a discussion thread about that very topic... well how f*cking dare I.
I am really pleased you're so clear-headed about this, I am happy for you. You tell people like me to 'grow up'... well, here's a plan... adults, by and large, tend to be accepting of other people's views and opinions, so in reality; why do you f*** off to the shadows and do some growing up yourself.
I just wanted to add, I get the feeling that everyone is desperately trying to write *the* definitive post... and in doing so, you get the kind of sh*t above where we're all attacking each other because there's no speculation left, we've covered it all. But do we really have to get into the whole 'you've only been around since 2002,' snobbery!? I've only been on here since 2005 because before I had a freelance job, I spent a lot less time in front of a computer. But I am your age and have been into this band for 25 years or more. You're emotional, fine. But don't start being a tw*t now, you've not done it in the past.
I find that attitude a lot harder to ignore than the people you're lambasting. I will take your advice though, I think I need to walk away from this for a little while. If this kind of attitude is actually appreciated around here, not sure it's good for my blood pressure.
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Ah come on, the creator of Sambongo and touch the winkie really can't walk away. This thread needs you :-)
I see what Steel Horse is saying to be honest in relation to people who are having a pop at the band and Jon in particular when we don't know the details. If this is a personal issue, which we have no solid grounds to believe that it isn't, then attacking Jon or protesting against him is really unfair. If Richie has said to him "Jon, x is going on. Please say nothing" and Jon has taken all this flack and damage to the band to protect Richie, then I take my hat off to Jon completely and he doesn't deserve some of the sh!t he is getting. In fact, it would make him an unbelievable friend.
If this turns into anything else, then I'm pretty much done with (Jon) Bon Jovi because they have mistreated the fans and they have lied from start to finish. In that case, even if Jon hasn't technically lied, he has completely and deliberately misled his fanbase and that would be enough for me to walk away. Also, if that is the case Matt has downright lied and he is the official voice of the band so that's the same as Jon for me. But for the minute, I'm willing to trust what they are telling me in the absence of any solid evidence to the contrary.
In this case, it really is Richie's responsibility to put us in the picture. If this is truly personal to him, then I can see why he might not want to but the situation is getting untenable now.
If people are saying "You know what, this isn't Bon Jovi to me because, for whatever reason, Richie won't be there and he's an important part of the experience for me" then I can understand people not going or selling their tickets. That's reasonable behaviour to me.
However, slamming the band when we don't know the circumstances (and the band might not be allowed to reveal the circumstances) is just unfair in my view.
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