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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1126174)

I would call Jon a liar in that case. He's responsible for Matt. Whether he reads what Matt has tweeted personally or not - he is responsible for what Matt puts out there. Matt has explicitly said that "there is no fight". With the Ellen appearance, Jon has also given the impression that this is something personal to Richie that has nothing to do with the band. If that proves not to be the case, the Bon Jovi organisation and Jon are liars.

It’s ambiguous enough to make the majority believe all is ok between them, which is what I believe the intention has been from the start. It would be deceptive but I wouldn’t call it an outright lie.

The aim of the statements has been to try and placate us all, its not worked for most of us on here.

But the vast majority that watched the Ellen interview wouldn’t have given what Jon said a second thought. In that sense the statements and sticking to that specific language has achieved the aim, without telling a flat out lie. (in the scenario we are speculating on)

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Originally Posted by jbjhand (Post 1126177)

I see your point to be fair.

But Jon would struggle to sell to me that he hasn't lied in that case. Also, Matt was very definite that there was no fight.

I read on another message board where a user said that he read that Bon Jovi tried to cancel the tour but were threatened by promoters with legal action.

I don't believe that they did try to cancel it but if they did, would they be wide open to legal cases from promoters?

I cant see it being a serious health isssue. If my best friend had a serious illness I would be on the phone or visiting as often as I could.

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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1126116)

Just coz I'm bored...someone mentioned the "Because We Can't" tour yesterday. This could be the anthem maybe:

Because We Can't

I don't wanna play another gig with Sambora
Stubborn as a rock, that’s why I don’t have a band (that's right)
I wanna be the one you pay to when you buy a ticket
I ain't a team player and I’d play the desert sand (but I can’t)

He's in the kitchen drinkin himself stupid
So tired of takin, my autocratic shite,
Right now he's takin' those breakfast painkillers
When he chugs down the pints
But lately feelin' like a backing singer
In the shadows starin' at my ass
There's only one thing in this world that he'd know
He said ‘no more’ and he has to let you down

I don't wanna play another gig with Sambora
Stubborn as a rock, that’s why I don’t have a band (that's right)
I wanna be the one you pay to when you buy a ticket
I ain't a team player and I’d play the desert sand (but I can’t)

Empty stadiums, everywhere that we go,
No Sambora, he’s downing loads of wine
Turn down the sound and we’ll go somewhere smaller
And we’ll pretend everything is alright

I don't wanna play another gig with Sambora
Stubborn as a rock, that’s why I don’t have a band (that's right)
I wanna be the one you pay to when you buy a ticket
I ain't a team player and I’d play the desert sand
But we can’t, new songs can’t sell those tickets
(We can’t) If you believe in we
(We can’t) then you just don’t know me
We can’t, we can’t

[Piss poor excuse for a solo]

I don't wanna play another gig with Sambora (I don't wanna play)
Stubborn as a rock, that’s why I don’t have a band (that's right)
I wanna be the one you pay to when you buy a ticket
I ain't a team player and I’d play the desert sand (but I can’t)
(I am a, I am a, I am a...)
Because we can’t

I don't wanna play another gig with Sambora (I don't wanna play)
Stubborn as a rock, that’s why I don’t have a band (that's right)
I wanna be the one you pay to when you buy a ticket
I ain't a team player and I’d play the desert sand
But we can’t (because we can’t)
New songs won’t sell those tickets
(We can’t) If you believe in we
(We can’t) then you just don’t know me
We can’t, we can’t

Now here is an example of creative genius. Perhaps it's time for the song-writing team of Bon Jovi, Sambora & RonJovi. It has a certain ring to it...

My favorite part was "piss poor excuse for a solo". I think something similar each time I hear that song.

Thanks for a dose of humor in the midst of this mess!

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Originally Posted by WillRunForChocolate (Post 1126182)

My favorite part was "piss poor excuse for a solo".

Mine too :)

First time i heard it i thought Jon had taken Richie down the vets!

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Originally Posted by WillRunForChocolate (Post 1126182)

Oh definitely, thats just what they need!!! it would be the most sarcastic, fun record. Much better than what they churn out at present

I dont know if this has already been posted (too many pages to search through) but a statement on BSWJBJ yesterday for those that wont have seen it :(

All Shows Will Go On As Scheduled

Due to a personal matter, Richie Sambora will not be performing on the European and South African leg of the tour. All shows will go on as scheduled.

Think this could be the end of the band we love :(

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Originally Posted by jbjhand (Post 1126183)

Mine too :)

First time i heard it i thought Jon had taken Richie down the vets!

Haha find it hard to believe that any self respecting guitarist would have had any input into that solo. I don't mind the song for what it is but **** me, I know nothing about playing, that mess sounds like something off a 1980s Japanese cartoon.

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1126155)

There's no way anyone's saying in the next 2 months "I'm going to buy a ticket for Bon Jovi" when they're aware not all members are there. Sure, some casuals won't care, but a huge part of Bon Jovi's fanbase knows Richie Sambora, even the casuals. It's defenitely to protect ticket sales, hence leaving everything as vague as possible. It's not about the tickets they've already sold, it's about the tickets they'd still like to sell.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I will preface my comment with: #1 it is early and I haven't had my first cup of coffee; and #2 I'm SCARED to disagree with Seb, but here goes anyway...

I would definitely buy tickets for a concert without Richie. I'm a big fan of his, and I've been a Jovi fan since the 80's, but it is possible to have a good experience without Richie. I've done it twice now - in Kansas City and Des Moines. No, it is not the same as when the entire band is intact. But I had a great time both nights and would pay to see them again in a heartbeat.

I would think that a more casual fan would have even less reservation to part with their money. And, though the thought is completely foreign to us, many casual fans don't have any clue about this Richie drama!

Ok, please be kind :)

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Originally Posted by megan3110 (Post 1126185)

Yeah we heard, this place went into meltdown yesterday. :mad: