Exactly. There are off shoring websites where I could hire someone to click the button. I know someone who needed to win a contest and paid $5 to get 1,000 FB likes.

Viral means many unique REAL people looking at something not 10 people watching the same video over and over and over.

Seriously. Given that is costs nothing to use youtube and spend 4 minutes watching the video, 100,000 views isn't squat.

This is the last place any of them would ever look for a reality check though. I don't think they purchased views, over a month & is the same people over and over. I hit it a few times, (once this week by mistake) when I realized that it was not Samboras account but another Lund, If I wanted to hear it, I would go to a fan post. I did notice that the Lund page had a very low number of comments for so many hits??? I think stats are turned off too, not certain though. Engine 19 is on Richie's YT and already has ads just because of his name.

i guess they are planning to do the same with Engine 19.

The number of comments is low because tehey delete anything negative.

Maybe he sould also sit naked on a Wrecking Ball...:silly:

Somehow, I don't think he'd be above that.

It looks as though Richie is definitely out for the rest of the tour. Nikki has blogged on the NR website that they are going back to Japan in December. I am so glad I didn't get tickets for melbourne this time. This is the first tour I have missed since 1987 :( but for me it's not worth spending such a huge amount if they aren't all there.

I don't know why anyone thinks he'll be back at all when his minions post things like "Bon Jovi is over."

Or just a wake up call, Don't matter where the pieces fall. Oooooh, Oooooh, Oooooh, I'm gonna fly like an aeroplane...

I was going to cry like the whistle of a long black train but instead I when I picked up the napkin to my wipe my tears I JAMMED WITH THE FABRIC.

That doesn't really make sense but that's my contribution. ^

As I have said I think Richie and his masters have the bigger portion of blame, but I do think aside from his circle of fans Richie will fade away to the general mass, probably Jon will too, to a lesser extent, but as BON JOVI they would be still a big fish in the big pond if you get my meaning. even though the bands output was mediocre, they were still hugely popular playing to 50,000 fans rather than 2000.
Richie, I think miss this like he probably misses his Tylenols and booze. So I wonder if Missy Lund and her entourage have bulled him up so well he thinks he WONT miss the "adoration of 80,000 fans" as he claimed once in an interview..

Maybe even worse then, I think I get it!:)

And your contribution made me smile. :D Richie unintentionally gives us so much ammunition.

Hopefully there won't be any sleepless nights.

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Omg . Please dont .

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Don't know if the pic link will work, Jo Roman's twit incl Richie getting ready for the game. Almost looks like could be in NJ at the stadium - last Sunday they were in LA for their football tweet. IDK however. Tico lives in Fla but could have went to family to recoup since out of the hospital in Jersey area, visit to Seaside, Mom and the game - would all be reasons to go....
I still think it would be nice (dreamer) if the Tico scare at least made the two main characters in this drama talk a bit more.
They are coming back my way and since it's a work night, 3 hour one way drive - Richie would have to come back for me to go to that one. Dang it!

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Three alert and beaming guys and then Richie who looks either half asleep and/or hungover. And can his dye job be more obvious? Time to tone it down...

Definitely not Jersey. Watching the Giants game now and CBS is covering the game. Richie is pictured with the FOX Sports broadcasting team.

Thank you, D&$^, kept trying to figure out the face, Terry Bradshaw. Duh!

For those who can't see Richie

https://twitter.com/DoubleOhJoe/stat...929344/photo/1

He looks pretty rough - bad dye job and yes, half asleep or hungover or both

Or just a bad photo.

He looks fine to me for an old rocker ..... He is no spring chicken , lets not be too harsh .

When did he start wearing glasses?

With that hair he looks like a woman.

Wonder if we'll ever get a full proper interview with Richie in Rolling Stone or some other magazine regarding the split? I'm guessing no as they have always had the "don't air laundry publicly" mantra. Would be great though instead of being stuck with Nikki Lund et al doing cryptic tweets that we try & read between the lines on.

Richie's been wearing glasses for ages. I remember seeing him with them in the late 80's/early 90's.

It was a joke related to the picture posted...

has this not ended yet?

they need to put out a statement now.

They'll release an album as good as "These Days" before they release a statement about this whole mess.

Gene Simmons....classic and fitting? "If somebody thinks they're irreplaceable they're either completely deluded, stupid, or intoxicated. In their case they abused their position in the band under the assumption that they were then only people who could do what they do...."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...#ixzz2fCrgqAlB

This stands perfectly for the Alec situation but for Richie? I don't think so.

In your analogy, Jon and Richie are the Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley of Bon Jovi for me and neither should be replaced. Richie's involvement in this band is way, far and above that of Criss or Ace. Richie’s absence, for me, is so much more than just the way he plays guitar but that’s been discussed to death.

Paul and Gene own the rights to KISS. Jon owns Bon Jovi so he is the only person that cannot be replaced. While t would be different to you, Richie is replaceable, in fact he HAS been replaced. If people will continue to buy at a level that suits Jon is still to be determined. But everyone IS replaceable.

Jon has called Richie's bluff (not that we even know what it is) and the ball is in Richie's court. He can come back and accept the deal or he can continue to jam with fabric. But Bon Jovi will go on - if for no other reason than Jon to prove a point.

I'm not talking about who owns what on paper... the fact that Richie co-wrote the band's biggest songs already sets him apart from being a session player who is replaceable. I think it's evident from the response to Richie's departure that there's a large proportion of Jovi fans who see him as irreplaceable in Bon Jovi.

I think Jon is riding on a lot of good will, previously bought tickets and a large dollop of curiosity - people want to see what it's like without Richie. But the next album and the next tour, minus Richie, will be the acid test to that.

While it might be acceptable to you, Richie has NOT been replaced. A very capable session player is standing in and doing a good job because a tour was already booked and fair play to JBJ for that. However, he's a smart man, so going forward beyond the BWC Tour - how popular this will prove to be under the banner of Bon Jovi is something he will think long and hard about.

So yes - totally different to the KISS situation.

The part in bold I agree with or can at least see how that would be possible, what ever happens after the tour will say either way.

However, the Richie´s place in Bon Jovi is not entirely different to the KISS situation. Cold Gin, Shock Me, Strange Ways, Parasite, are some of the well known KISS songs that Ace wrote, while he contributed plenty of album tracks too. It should be noted that unlike Sambora, Ace actually wrote these songs and not co-wrote them. If contribution to the band in terms of songwriting and even guitar sound is being judged then it could be argued that Ace was more integral to KISS than Sambora is to Bon Jovi (not something I entirely believe by the way). Of course, Ace also got to sing on some KISS songs, something Sambora has never done for Bon Jovi.

Peter Criss wrote several tracks, the most famous being Beth and he sang lead on plenty of KISS tracks as well.

What Slakk said isn´t entirely wrong. In fact like he/she said it is really only down to whether Jon can sell a Sambora-less Bon Jovi to a level he and his ego wants or can at worst cope with.

What I disagree with from Slakk´s post is the notion that Richie´s bluff was called. I think he left for reasons that he thought or still thinks are genuine, perhaps he is ready to come back, who knows? But I don´t think he was bluffing when he left.

Again though, the songwriting part was only brought up in response to the whole 'who owns what on paper' - I think it's almost irrelevant and the key thing is that Bon Jovi without Richie, for a lot of fans, would be like KISS without Gene Simmons or The Stones without Keef. I just can't see it being widely accepted, album & tour, over and over again.

I am sure a lot of people would still go and see them - Axl Rose has proved it's a viable financial venture - but if they were looking for a way to finally kill off the commitment of the long-time die hards, certainly among every Bon Jovi fan I know personally, then this album, tour and the fall out from it has done just that.

Yeah, I don´t disagree with that, I was just putting it out there about the KISS thing. Anyway, I think you have hit the nail on the head, perhaps in the band dynamic Richie can be replaced as the guys from KISS were. However Richie has a connection with the fans that those didn´t and it is with the fans that ultimately he probably can´t be replaced, and in the end I don´t think Jon´s ego is that out of control to think otherwise.

Jon has probably just drawn a line under this tour in a kind of "you don´t deserve to be here now" and would probably take him back for the next cycle.

Spot on, let's hope so.

You are talking about Ace Frehley here, you do realise that? Ace f*ckin' Frehley not Mr. Nobody. The only difference is that he's only been with KISS for about 10 years or so but when he left Kiss, he was a lot more 'irreplaceable' than Richie has ever been or will ever be in Bon Jovi. Yet KISS is still around 30 years later...Go figure. Jon and Gene are very similar. Moderately talented musicians with an eye for talent. That's why Bon Jovi will go on without Sambora. Simple.

A mental reply, and not because of what you said exactly.

You reply to me saying Sambora has a connection with the fans after I had also wrote this:
However, the Richie´s place in Bon Jovi is not entirely different to the KISS situation. Cold Gin, Shock Me, Strange Ways, Parasite, are some of the well known KISS songs that Ace wrote, while he contributed plenty of album tracks too. It should be noted that unlike Sambora, Ace actually wrote these songs and not co-wrote them. If contribution to the band in terms of songwriting and even guitar sound is being judged then it could be argued that Ace was more integral to KISS than Sambora is to Bon Jovi (not something I entirely believe by the way). Of course, Ace also got to sing on some KISS songs, something Sambora has never done for Bon Jovi.

But do not address far more dismissive things said about Ace´s contribution like this:
Richie's involvement in this band is way, far and above that of Criss or Ace.

Interesting.