Richie did an interview for a Brazilian newspaper when they announced Bon Jovi headlining Rock in Rio, he stated that he was looking forward to do solo gigs between Bon jovi shows in the area they're playing, he said "this is how things are going to be from now on".

He was clearly pissed with the situation.

Please post that article if you have it because I have read it and don't remember the part about him saying "this is how things are going to be from now on" at all.

Well, he's had since April or whenever to do as many solo gigs as he wanted.

Let's count them.

Oh yeah, none.

But-but he's been jamming! Ya know, with the fabric and things.

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Richie is on it.

Stop acting like a stubborn child, I'm just passing what HE SAID.

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I guess you know how to translate to English using google translate.

I don't know why some people are so skeptical about the reasons that made Richie opt for not being with the band.

Im very surprised ......

Translating it to english there are errors in the wording but the quote comes out as "I do not know how it will be. We have not talked about the tour. I want to continue promoting my album. The only certainty is that I will be in Brazil with Bon Jovi in ​​2013. If you have a break between shows, I'll try to do a solo. I think it will be like from now on."

Does that really sound like he's pissed off about it?

No, which is exactly why I asked. It certainly is not "and that's how things are going to be from now on".

" The only certainty is that I will be in Brazil with Bon Jovi in ​​2013"

ohrly.

and one thing abt that theory of Richie not giving a **** abt the new album. Didn't he co-write the songs? How can he be so bored of a thing he made?
I don't think it's the album, I think it's the tour itself.

And yea, all we can do is theorize here since we don't have any real information.

Unless my memory is failing, I'm pretty sure Richie only has writing credits on 4 or 5 songs? Or some low number like that.

The Circle (2009) - all songs co-writing by Sambora.

What About Now (2013) - 5 songs co-writing by Sambora; Because We Can, Pictures of You:), What's Left Of Me:D, Army Of One and Thick As Thieves;).

Jon trampling Richie's album, wrote a lot of shit with John Shanks and Billy Falcon. All for not wait to Richie, he was recording his third solo album.

"What about now" is an album that feels rushed, poorly produced, and little creativity. The album should have been postponed until June 2013.

I'd go along with this. When Jon says "personal issues" he doesn't mean family, drink/drugs etc he means a personal issue with the new material. WAN is about as close to a JBJ solo album as we've had under the Bon Jovi moniker, combine that with Richie being ousted from his newly found solo groove and no wonder he got arsey.

It will have be no surprise for Jon he left because he won't have been fully on board with the album or tour in the first place

On KTF, Richie has credits for Faith, Sleep, In These Arms, If I Was Your Mother, Blame it on the Love and Little Bit of Soul. That's only 6 out of 12 and he isn't on a lot of the big songs (I Believe, Bed of Roses and Dry County). This situation isn't unique to WAN and the thing WAN and KTF have in common is that Richie was off doing solo stuff during the writing process.

I agree that WAN is rushed and a rehash of a lot of stuff done previously but it's not unusual for Jon to write for a band album without Richie.

About Bed of Roses and Dry County, the work of Sambora on guitar is fantastic, he deserved a credit. Jon wrote bed of roses on piano, but in my opinion, that song is Big, thanks to the guitar intro and his solo. Dry county is a similar case. I think the same with I'm With you, the guitar solo is very good.

A great team effort.

Fair point actually. Richie is more visibile on that record than WAN when you look at the likes of BOR or DC.

Point stands though that Jon has written songs without Richie before. Take Hearts Breaking Even as another example. Richie went to LA, came back and Jon and Desmond Child had finished the song.

I knew it,solo album and selfpromotion is the main reason why he's off the band,he will regret it big time for that,he is nothing without bon jovi!

he signs T-shirts,low low low,there is no money in fashion Samboraaaaa

Ok. But Sambora is present in this new album.

5 songs co-writing by Sambora:
Because we can
Pictures
Left of Me
Thick as Thieves
Army

Fantastic guitar solos by Sambora:
I'm With You
Into the Echo (good backing chorus).

Only I have problems with What About Now, The Fighter, Because We Can and Amen. boring.

Alrigh lets say he wasnt happy w the results. He doesnt have a voice in the band to tell Jon that since he's (...was) his writing partner? I dont know man I just dont think any of our theories are enough to answer the question why the hell did he leave the tour like that.
Im sorry but I dont see him upset or unhappy or even bored in the videos of the tour before April.
He's just...there...being himself. Just like last tour?
And the 'Jon told him to' thing...I see no reason to believe that unless it was like 'ask your self if you still want to be here and when you have the answer come back...or not' but since Richie has said he does want to come back I dont see what the problem is right now...shit probably got way more serious than it was at the start.

I think at this point it's simply turned into a staring contest and neither wants to be the first to blink. So Jon tours and Richie hangs out at the mall. :)

Sean Borg has uploaded a video about the event. Interestingly, Richie says something but do not quite understand, someone can write what he says?

It's basically nothing but random smalltalk.

I was just re-reading Richie´s tweets from February-March and the way he wrote about the great shows and with his constant "please help us to get no. 1", I still can´t see an indication that something was horribly wrong at that time.

Maybe he wasn´t happy with the timing of that record and the lack of guitar in the songs but I don´t believe that he hated WAN a great deal.

I think one of the most valid points made throughout this whole thread is the one about WAN being an album of five fair (ish) BON JOVI songs, and the rest JBJ solo efforts, excluding Every Road of course. since that statement the more I think about it the more it makes sense,
WAN is 90% a JBJ solo record with cameo appearances from Dave,Tico and Richie. Although I dont believe its the sole reason for Richie walking I think this JBJ & Friends issue needs sorting, and two or three years down the line they need to create a true,classic BON JOVI album where Sambora has more than a minniscule input, and maybe even bring the infamous "PIZZA PIE JURY" back into play!!!!

The correct translation for the line is "I guess that's how things are going to be from now on" = "Eu acho que é assim que as coisas vão ser a partir de agora".

Original = Acho que vai ser assim daqui em diante.

Eu acho que é assim que as coisas vão ser = acho que vai ser assim = I guess that's how things are going to be (same meaning)
Daqui em diante = a partir de agora = from now on. (Same meaning)

Although it carry the same meaning, the proper translation is the one I gave to you. (I guess that's how things are going to be from now on).




And please JoviJovi, stop living in denying.

I am not in an kind if denial. Richie walked off the tour for WHATEVER reason like the true unprofessional he is and is now doing meet and greets in a shopping mall for a fashion line, yet the ONLY reason anybody has interest is because of Bon Jovi and the fact that he (or was) a musician. No denial there. Weird how the only time the man has a set of balls and expresses his supposed unhappiness with the situation is in a Brazilian magazine interview where sentiment can get lost in translation. Not only from Portuguese to English, but Richies answers from English to Portuguese

Yeah, and the guy in the newspaper did a poor job translating from English to Portuguese. You can't start a sentence with "acho" (guess) without using pronoun, at least not in a newspaper! LOL

Here is a JBJ fan girl. JBJ=professional. RS=drunk.

I didn't say a word about Jon or Richie being a drunk. Nice try, go away Richie fanboy.

Pretty bold move for you to call someone else a fan girl.

Fan girl? What are you for Richie? I don't think there is a bigger fan girl than you.

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When I look at Jon & Richie hugging in the BWC video I get sad. :cry:

LMAO!!! That right there is funny

:D

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ugh....

remember when

This exact time a year ago, I was having a great time with others from JT at Shepherd's Bush at Richie's solo gig. It was a brilliant night I absolutely loved it, the man could do no wrong, despite playing Who Says and Don't Look Back In Anger!

Fast forward a year and it couldn't be anymore different. So much respect lost, and I can't even listen to him singing I'll Be There For You for the fact that he simply isn't. No matter where the fault lies, be it Jon or Richie or a combination of the two, he walked out on his fans. It would soften the blow if he was working on his music, or touring aftermath rather than all this shit with Lund making him a laughing stock. Even when he mentioned his music on Twitter, deliberately ignoring any BJ stuff is disrespectful for the past 30 years and the fans who have enabled him to have a solo outlet. He may well not be allowed to tour or play his stuff contractually, but ignoring all that has gone before as it it never happened has been very disappointing.

Here's hoping the pair of 50-something men can grow up and sort out their differences one way or another and either come back together as a band, or have Bon Jovi go on without Richie and Sambora actually be the kick-ass musician he was, complete with Bon Jovi back catalogue.

Yeah, I was thinking about the gig last year today as well. I think it was the very next day that he cancelled the US tour, and its like everything has gone downhill for him from there on. I remember being so hopeful after that show that the next band tour could be the best I had ever seen from them. What made it all go wrong?