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danfan 10-24-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1155263)
He looks like a transsexual.

He has for years.

rolo_tomachi 10-24-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1155263)
He looks like a transsexual.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Eq4WOzdj_X...ch7no1_500.gif

Alphavictim 10-24-2013 04:08 PM

Jon should re-record "All I Want For Christmas".

danfan 10-24-2013 04:34 PM

Sad. Richie looks like a transsexual, but is still cooler than Bobby.

rolo_tomachi 10-24-2013 04:39 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXSRV5BCQAAT0NL.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXSIGbrCcAIxmRe.png:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXR9K_tCIAA6v66.jpg:large

Iceman 10-24-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CKatz (Post 1155207)
Richie performed Leon on Me. It's on YouTube now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeLDr...ature=youtu.be

That bluesy voice is amazing. This is what I love to see!


First: Richie's drunk.
Second: Richie's the "rock'n'roll" missing from Bon Jovi now. Phil is a great guitarist, but he doesn't have as big of a role he'd need to pull the thing together. They need Richie.

Ice

Sissy3 10-24-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1155262)
Song choice and adlibs at the end could sure be interpreted as a message to Jon ("call me" about 10000x times at the end), but I'm not one of those conspiracy theorists ;)

Oh but we haven't had a good conspiracy theory in some time. :D Nikki's so into fashion she should have put Richie into some Spanx before that Al Gore shot.

Panda 10-24-2013 07:43 PM

Yeah he's drunk hahaha

sambos apprentice 10-25-2013 01:01 AM

have it on good authority that richie has some health problems. Jon and him are on good terms...the same artistic bickering that there always is...but richie isnt in the best place right now.

don t shoot the messenger

SadieLady 10-25-2013 01:06 AM

So Phil X's wife had their little baby boy this morning (from the photo, it looks like Phil X was there)...wonder if he will play the next concert (Oct 25) or not? After Uncasville there is a week's break and then a couple of shows in Canada (Phil X's stomping ground). After Nov 8 there is a month's break before Australia. Do we know if Phil X is continuing to the end of the tour or not?

Becky 10-25-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sambos apprentice (Post 1155305)
have it on good authority that richie has some health problems. Jon and him are on good terms...the same artistic bickering that there always is...but richie isnt in the best place right now.

don t shoot the messenger

Care to elaborate or will they have to kill you if you spill?

golittleperson 10-25-2013 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sambos apprentice (Post 1155305)
have it on good authority that richie has some health problems. Jon and him are on good terms...the same artistic bickering that there always is...but richie isnt in the best place right now.

don t shoot the messenger

I hope your source is wrong. But - to me it's kinda obvious he's not in a good place right now - Literally. He's not on tour, he's not making the music solo that he is so capable of, (if he wants to stay close to home) and he's not on my sofa. :p

DestinationJovi 10-25-2013 01:55 AM

Oh. My. God.

Get help Richie.


golittleperson 10-25-2013 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SadieLady (Post 1155306)
So Phil X's wife had their little baby boy this morning (from the photo, it looks like Phil X was there)...wonder if he will play the next concert (Oct 25) or not? After Uncasville there is a week's break and then a couple of shows in Canada (Phil X's stomping ground). After Nov 8 there is a month's break before Australia. Do we know if Phil X is continuing to the end of the tour or not?

I guess if need be for the already weather rescheduled Conn. show, Bobby will just have to do his Richie impersonation.:rolleyes: Does KOS have another guitarist? Richie is scheduled for a charity event Sat. in LA with his AMOL band. No matter, they won't resch/cancel this one again. Phil, may well fly there tmr. and then back home, especially if his wife stays in the hospital 2 nights which a lot of Mom's do. If she had a C-section (NOT heard) maybe longer. He will have about a week break after that. Most of the time Dad goes back to work since it's Mom who has to physically recover. She will need help of family or some one if possible - but I also suspect that financially he has had his best year ever. Big deal to a new family. There are only 5 gigs in Nov. So he can be home quite a bit then. If you go back or on another thread or somewhere - you may remember the Phil X web page (later found out fan based ran) but it did show him all the way to Dec. 17th.

Javier 10-25-2013 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SadieLady (Post 1155306)
So Phil X's wife had their little baby boy this morning (from the photo, it looks like Phil X was there)...wonder if he will play the next concert (Oct 25) or not? After Uncasville there is a week's break and then a couple of shows in Canada (Phil X's stomping ground). After Nov 8 there is a month's break before Australia. Do we know if Phil X is continuing to the end of the tour or not?

As of this moment, Phil is scheduled to be with Bon Jovi until the end of the tour in December on Australia....

GabrielC 10-25-2013 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1155309)
Oh. My. God.

Get help Richie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzlbKfpQ5xY

Ouch, man, that's just sad :(

angelsambo 10-25-2013 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SadieLady (Post 1155306)
So Phil X's wife had their little baby boy this morning (from the photo, it looks like Phil X was there)...

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Becky 10-25-2013 03:08 AM

That baby's got great hair! :) Precious! I read somewhere that his name is Xavier Joshua.

The Rock 10-25-2013 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sambos apprentice (Post 1155305)
have it on good authority that richie has some health problems. Jon and him are on good terms...the same artistic bickering that there always is...but richie isnt in the best place right now.

don t shoot the messenger

Heard the same thing. Richie is not well at the moment, things are not good. The band are on his side if he wants them to be.

The Rock 10-25-2013 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SadieLady (Post 1155306)
So Phil X's wife had their little baby boy this morning (from the photo, it looks like Phil X was there)...wonder if he will play the next concert (Oct 25) or not? After Uncasville there is a week's break and then a couple of shows in Canada (Phil X's stomping ground). After Nov 8 there is a month's break before Australia. Do we know if Phil X is continuing to the end of the tour or not?

Phil was there. Jon had offered him the use of the private jet that if labor had started and he was on stage, he could have left at any time to be with his wife. Looks like the little tyke waited until the Chicago show finished and they had a night off.

DestinationJovi 10-25-2013 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sambos apprentice (Post 1155305)
have it on good authority that richie has some health problems. Jon and him are on good terms...the same artistic bickering that there always is...but richie isnt in the best place right now.

don t shoot the messenger


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Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1155325)
Heard the same thing. Richie is not well at the moment, things are not good. The band are on his side if he wants them to be.

What are the health problems you heard he has?

Jon and the band don't seem so supportive and on his side. If he's truly ill I would hope they would be, but remember Jon said in press conferences "Richie just didn't show up" in a pissed off manner. And said when Richie is ready to die on stage like Jon is every night he can come back. Doesn't seem to be on Richie's side to me.

JoviJovi 10-25-2013 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1155327)
What are the health problems you heard he has?

Jon and the band don't seem so supportive and on his side. If he's truly ill I would hope they would be, but remember Jon said in press conferences "Richie just didn't show up" in a pissed off manner. And said when Richie is ready to die on stage like Jon is every night he can come back. Doesn't seem to be on Richie's side to me.

It's been almost 7 months. It probably started out as just like that, Richie just didn't show up and things evolved from there.

rainsong 10-25-2013 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1155327)
What are the health problems you heard he has?

Jon and the band don't seem so supportive and on his side. If he's truly ill I would hope they would be, but remember Jon said in press conferences "Richie just didn't show up" in a pissed off manner. And said when Richie is ready to die on stage like Jon is every night he can come back. Doesn't seem to be on Richie's side to me.

There is such a thing as tough love with a person who has an addiction problem/ personality. Sometimes you have to just set boundries and when the addict is ready to try you are there to help them but as long as they insist on destroying them selves, you have to leave them on their own. They have to know that they are responsible for their own actions and consequences to their continued bad behavior.

The Rock 10-25-2013 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1155327)
What are the health problems you heard he has?

Jon and the band don't seem so supportive and on his side. If he's truly ill I would hope they would be, but remember Jon said in press conferences "Richie just didn't show up" in a pissed off manner. And said when Richie is ready to die on stage like Jon is every night he can come back. Doesn't seem to be on Richie's side to me.

When was the press conference? Things are said, things change. Even Richie has said that things are great. They are not.

nrm123 10-25-2013 10:28 AM

IF richie was ill and everyone is getting along. why aren't the band(Jon) using that to gain back respect. They put up a message on social media/website when Tico had op so why not mention Richies illness is the reason he's still not shown.

IML88 10-25-2013 10:40 AM

If he was ill in the true sense I doubt he'd be making public appearances and i'm sure the rest of the band would have been more sensitive, informative and supportive towards the situation.

If he's ill in the sense he's fallen off the wagon then sure - i believe that.

Captain Walrus 10-25-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 1155321)
That baby's got great hair! :) Precious! I read somewhere that his name is Xavier Joshua.

Xavier Xenidis? Thats quite an awesome name right there!

DestinationJovi 10-25-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1155335)
When was the press conference? Things are said, things change. Even Richie has said that things are great. They are not.

Of course things aren't great. No one needs inside scoop to know that. But you said Richie has health issues and the band is on his side. If you mean he's drinking and/or doing drugs, that's obvious. But Jon has obviously had it with him and this same "personal issue". I'm sure they're on his side in that they wish him the best but they are not on his side being especially supportive like they were previous times. Richie isn't even mentioned at shows anymore, it's like he doesn't exist. Last time Jon dedicated Wanted to Richie at every show while he was in rehab. Not this time.

9:00 mark

golittleperson 10-25-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Walrus (Post 1155347)
Xavier Xenidis? Thats quite an awesome name right there!

His middle name is Joshua after a friend of Phils who was killed recently. He has a pic on instagram and said that originally their son was not going to have a middle name but they had decided to give him this one. Was really sweet. But he also said that he would be born this week so I wonder if she had labor induced. Either way, really pretty baby.

New Phil Tweet addition:
Speaks for itself;

Phil X ‏@TheRealPhilX 9m
so hard to leave our new little dude @ my beautiful @jetblacksky8 this morning but the show must go on. http://instagram.com/p/f5dEN9wivu/

golittleperson 10-25-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rainsong (Post 1155334)
There is such a thing as tough love with a person who has an addiction problem/ personality. Sometimes you have to just set boundries and when the addict is ready to try you are there to help them but as long as they insist on destroying them selves, you have to leave them on their own. They have to know that they are responsible for their own actions and consequences to their continued bad behavior.

You are right, I sincerely hope it is all wrong but I don't trust his current "friends" for lack of a better word. Dependent personality (addicts) often gravitate to their enablers. They can struggle with self responsibility. Recovery is such a precautious time and any little thing can throw it off. You DO eventually draw a line in the sand for Your Own Sanity, no matter how much you love that person. My mother went through rehabs 5X - It's ugly folks. I adore Richie and hope everyday he has it together and that it's something completely non heath, physical or mental related. Just all of it breaks my heart to even think it.

Lisa71 10-25-2013 07:23 PM

Phil will be at the shows.

Phil X ‏@TheRealPhilX 30m
so hard to leave our new little dude @ my beautiful @jetblacksky8 this morning but the show must go on. http://instagram.com/p/f5dEN9wivu/
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JoviForever 10-25-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sambos apprentice (Post 1155305)
have it on good authority that richie has some health problems. Jon and him are on good terms...the same artistic bickering that there always is...but richie isnt in the best place right now.

don t shoot the messenger

How do you get it info on 'good authority' from Scotland?!

angelsambo 10-25-2013 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1155320)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXcroDrCAAAoJM2.jpg

The Rock 10-26-2013 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1155349)
Of course things aren't great. No one needs inside scoop to know that. But you said Richie has health issues and the band is on his side. If you mean he's drinking and/or doing drugs, that's obvious. But Jon has obviously had it with him and this same "personal issue". I'm sure they're on his side in that they wish him the best but they are not on his side being especially supportive like they were previous times. Richie isn't even mentioned at shows anymore, it's like he doesn't exist. Last time Jon dedicated Wanted to Richie at every show while he was in rehab. Not this time.

9:00 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs9kxJO1Eb4

This is a completely different situation then the last time. Richie was open then, he is not now. As Jon has said all along, it's Richie's place to tell.

Butters 10-26-2013 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1155309)
Oh. My. God.

Get help Richie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzlbKfpQ5xY

He's obviously such a nice guy but he's clearly quite ill right there. Very sad to see.

Javier 10-26-2013 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Butters (Post 1155399)
He's obviously such a nice guy but he's clearly quite ill right there. Very sad to see.

He's doing that dry mouth thing he's been doing for the past few years or so but other than that, what about the video is so off???

Butters 10-26-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1155400)
He's doing that dry mouth thing he's been doing for the past few years or so but other than that, what about the video is so off???

He's rambling, his sentences go nowhere, his speech sounds slurred and slowed, his body movements are strange. More than looking drunk, he looks heavily medicated.

I'm sure he's back drinking and doing coke, but there's probably a whole lot of benzos and/or opioids thrown into the mix too. Dry mouth is a really common side effect of opioid and benzo use.

Javier 10-26-2013 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Butters (Post 1155401)
He's rambling, his sentences go nowhere, his speech sounds slurred and slowed, his body movements are strange. More than looking drunk, he looks heavily medicated.

I'm sure he's back drinking and doing coke, but there's probably a whole lot of benzos and/or opioids thrown into the mix too. Dry mouth is a really common side effect of opioid and benzo use.

Could be. I've never really seen Richie as a very gifted speaker and being out of your element or uncomfortable can make someone speak without really being sure what it is they want to say. I'm being cautious here and trying not to come to any conclusions since dry mouth is also a common side effect to a lot of medications. The thing about him being ill and such. But as far as I know, he could be drinking and on cocaine every freaking day. But I agree, he does seem Weird....

luceknight 10-26-2013 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1155391)

ugh this is so adorable I don't even know....

Butters 10-26-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1155403)
Could be. I've never really seen Richie as a very gifted speaker and being out of your element or uncomfortable can make someone speak without really being sure what it is they want to say. I'm being cautious here and trying not to come to any conclusions since dry mouth is also a common side effect to a lot of medications. The thing about him being ill and such. But as far as I know, he could be drinking and on cocaine every freaking day. But I agree, he does seem Weird....

Oh you are completely right, Richie has never been an eloquent speaker in public, and that was obvious in that video but something looked really off about him. As have most things of late.

Quite obviously none of us have any idea what is actually going on and everything is just speculation.


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