Outlaws of Love:
I think it's a song Jon wrote somewhere between 1989 and 1991. I'm with you Dominik, that the first verse fits his situation with Dorothea at that time perfectly. But I think that the demo happened with the band for Keep The Faith. Although the song itself would fit into the 80s, the band's play doesn't. The muffled guitar riff sounds a bit like the beginning of I Believe where Richie does some kind of muffled slide, too, before he starts the dirty riff. The line "These days you're two paychecks away" was used again in Hey God. So I think it's not too far fetched to say it's been worked on and recorded during KTF but it didn't make the record and while writing for These Days that specific line stayed in mind and was used again. |
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Later on today or tomorrow... I'm going to revise the final list and make it nice and organized... if anyone was additional comments or facts that need to be included, just post them and I'll update it...
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I remember watching some vid with Jon who said something about being with Dot and that she was brave because he had no school, no money and just waiting for his luck but she sticked around. The lyrics may be as well about him and Dorothea.
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To be fair we don't know if it's a Grey Summer song but if it was written 91ish or KTF that would indeed make it a GS era song. We can romanticize a time period all we want, it doesn't take the timelines away if we don't like a song.
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So I finished up to These Days / Crossroads... The inserted years are from Obie's list that was attached a few posts up. Most are pretty consistent so far with the exception of 2...
The First Inside and Why Aren't You Dead - The DVD stated KTF but Obie's list has 1994 noted. I'm going to finish DA Sex Sells and Crush tomorrow. I also removed Prayer, Always, Sat Night and couple other obvious ones... |
Two things:
1. If a couple of those were in fact written with Eric Bazilian (is that acutally listed somewhere?), then couldn't it be that they were pulled because of that story with Jon/Eric an Ugly? (i.e. maybe Eric didn't want the songs to be released and hence they wrote new ones?) 2. Wasn't there some sort of "track list" from the KTF sessions? I can't seem to find it, and maybe it was from a different album, but I think it was from KTF and there were a lot of songs on it, maybe even Outlaws Of Love, but I really can't say... |
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#1....The only story I know about Ugly is that Jon basically stole it and just changed up the style. But I thought Eric was cool with it so I'm not too sure I get the point... |
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