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Jovimimi 03-19-2005 12:47 PM

for me the biggest surprise is that LAST CHANCE TRAIN being from 1998 !!! :shock: THE JON'S VOICE IS HIGH REALLY ...I have friends who told me (since they heard that it was from 1998 lol) that it sounds like Say It Isn't So or Real Life but i can listen to those 3 songs for hours for me it's so not the same voice .. maybe Jon sang Last Chance Train after breathing some helium who knows :shock:

for me when he says this is the last chance traiiiiiinnnn he has his baby voice nothing like his 98 voice


ok about the voice and the high notes and all I think that there are periods where even lately Jon CAN hit the high notes without any problem I don't recall who said that (so forgive me for this :wink: ) but I think Jon can still hit high notes it is more like if he doesn't want to ... :roll:

jade82 03-19-2005 02:36 PM

The band have said that the songs on the box set are not necessarily bad song, it was just that they didn't fit inot the vien of the record that they were doing at the time. So it would make sense that songs such as Outlaws of Love sounds like it is from an earlier time because it fits more into SWW than KTF when actually it could have been recorded for KTF, we don't know.

Edwin 03-19-2005 03:48 PM

I always thought Outlaws Of Love was a NJ demo. Besides the cowboy fixation it has a Living In Sin feel to it.

bjcrazycpa 03-19-2005 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist
Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic
Aloha !

And I think that this list isn't really correct but just an estimated guess just like us fans did.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

:roll:

The list is pretty accurate even when you do factor educated fan guesses. Just because you can't accept Satellite as being Crush era doesn't make it not, the writing style of it doesn't fit These Days or earlier. You find certain themes/phrases in lyrics that help mark what period it comes out of. The only reason a phrase crosses over into another writing period is when it is a deliberate reference (such as in Breathe, "If all that we've got is each other...etc.") As I said in the other thread, more evidence pointed to it being from relatively recent sessions, Jon does have the ability to hit those notes, not doing it is another story. You have no proof that Jon is unable to do it, only that he doesn't do it. But God forbid any optimism about Jon or the band be sparked by recorded proof they do have the ability to put it out. It's stuff like Satelite that keeps me paying attention in the hope they stop holding back or self censoring the creative process, choosing crap for the albums and shelving what reflects their maturation as artists now.

I'm betting the guessing has more to do with the early 90s songs than the more recent ones. The only surprises I found where Outlaws of Love and Last Chance Train, I really didn't pay much attention to either one to care to try and figure out the era.

Yep, exactly. I agree with you. :)

deb

bejt 03-20-2005 01:12 AM

Well it's about time :!:

YES :D


Did you notice this?

LAST MAN STANDING
Band has recorded a much different version of this song for planned inclusion in forthcoming studio album


new record info... :?

Captain_jovi 03-20-2005 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bejt
Well it's about time :!:

YES :D


Did you notice this?

LAST MAN STANDING
Band has recorded a much different version of this song for planned inclusion in forthcoming studio album


new record info... :?

You didn't know that? They've been saying that for months now

Javier 03-20-2005 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
Quote:

Originally Posted by bejt
Well it's about time :!:

YES :D


Did you notice this?

LAST MAN STANDING
Band has recorded a much different version of this song for planned inclusion in forthcoming studio album


new record info... :?

You didn't know that? They've been saying that for months now

supossedly it's much more agressive.
I can hear the angrynness in the lyrics but I'm really curious as to whatthey will do to it musically.

Keba 03-20-2005 10:34 PM

You know how people were saying that most of these songs came from the 90s? I guess they were right. I wishe there were more demos from the 80s.... Ah, well. Ya can't have everything. :roll:

Johny 10-26-2010 07:33 PM

I'm reviving this thread in hope that there is some new knowledge about the boxset songs.
I'm sorting them to eras and to albums and I came across problems. There are songs which are supposed to be from 1997 - which suggests they are demos for Destination Anywhere but why some of them have Richie as co-writer? Eg Shut Up And Kiss Me, this one was even recorded with Big Dogs (does this mean Bon Jovi + Big Dogs, or just Jon + Big Dogs?)

And then there are songs from 1998 which are song for Jon's third album which became band's next album. So can I list them as demos for Crush?

Another complicated year is 1994 because there were sessions fro Crossroad - Always, Sat Night, Good Guys but also These Days was written and recorded in 1994 (they played some TD song during the Xmas concerts in Dec 1994). So were songs such: Open All Night (99% sure it was), Why Aren't You Dead, I Just Want To Be Your Man, The Fire Inside, Only In My Dreams, Flesh And Bone, Letter To A Friend, Nobody's Hero written for These Days and can be listed with this album??

And 1996 - there are songs written in 1996, one with Richie: Someday Just Me Be Tonight and two without - River Runs Dry and I Get Rush - are those demos for DA? I don't think so, they sound like recorded by Bon Jovi and not Big Dogs...

I'm all confused now. Thanks for any help.

Grantos1 10-26-2010 11:54 PM

I think anything written in 1993 / 94 would be aimed at These days, with the choice of using one or two from Crossroad.

Wasn't aware Jon had planned a third solo album.


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