I had a good time, but I will never see them again unless Richie reunites. The crowd was so good I expected These Days at least. He was in reasonable voice though.

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The Official December 1 Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne, Australia Thread
 

See my previous post.....a lot don’t!
There’s nothing special for die hards.
Not one rare track or b-side.

Aloha !

But does she know all that post 2000 stuff because of you or does she put that stuff on repeat as well? Just wondering as a casual is usually one who goes see the band because of the hits and not because of the following songs:

This House Is Not for Sale
Knockout
Whole Lot of Leavin'
Lost Highway
We Weren't Born to Follow
Roller Coaster
Who Says You Can't Go Home
God Bless This Mess
We Don't Run

There's just no need for this stuff. That's 9 songs out of a 21 setlist no one cares for.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I agree about some of the songs but it makes sense to me to play some THINFS songs, but spread them more throughout the set.

Just pure laziness... no reason why these tracks couldn't replace some of those

Id die for you
Runaway
In These Arms
Just older
Everyday
Last man standing

a better balance surely and songs that most will know that should be vocally ok.. ish..

He's static but sound ok i think :

Christ, even I could sing Prayer much better than that... Jon really can't sing worth a f*ck anymore :(

One positive thing, Jon is making life easy for us.

We just have to copy paste over and over again the previous 10,000 posts complaining about feasible things that could be improved to cater to everybody that were always done in stadium tours.

Somebody please create a default responses system here so we can choose from any of the multiple ones and save some energy.

Or maybe this is just a Groundhog Day situation and somebody needs to do something different that'll break the cycle.

(recycling one of my usual responses)

To anybody expecting things to change in Europe: everybody here has been expecting changes, any kind of positive changes, from the beginning and that hasn't happened in two years. It's always been one step forward, two steps back.

Other than wishful thinking, do you honestly think that a light bulb will go off in Jon's head and things will go back to normal?

OMG...to me, this is really really bad. Horrible performance, even more horrible stage. I am not going to see them in Europe next summer. Sadly it's time to part ways with once my favourite band

That set and performance is a ****ing cop out ... glad I stood my ground and didn’t buy a ticket .... thank god for the memories.

Aloha !

Why does it make sense to play some? Because the tour is named after the album? The record was released nearly 2 years ago and spawned no hits. All promo is done and there has been no effort to get this record off the ground apart from 2 promo shows and a bunch of instantly forgettable videos. Why should the band perform 4 songs from a record no one bought and really cared for?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Again it could be so much better, a handful of easy changes and a much stronger set...


1. New Years Day
2. Raise Your Hands
3. You Give Love a Bad Name
4. In These Arms
5. Lost Highway
6. Runaway
7. Roller Coaster
8. Who Says You Can't Go Home
9. Born to Be My Baby
10. It's My Life
11: This House Is Not For Sale
12: Just Older
13: Keep the Faith
14: Bed of Roses
15: Lay Your Hands on Me
16: I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
17: Bad Medicine
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18. Blood on Blood
19: I'll Be There for You
20. Wanted Dead or Alive
21. Livin' On A Prayer

22: Never Say Goodbye

Aloha !

Stronger how? You've just changed 2 overplayed songs for other overplayed songs. Out of your supposedly stronger set there's 2 songs that've not been played last tour and 1 which hasn't been done since 2003. How's your set stronger? You've taken out one overplayed song and replaced it with another overplayed song.

Your list won't change much. Stop suggesting songs that have been played to death the last 30 years or songs that won't work live. Everyday has never worked and Last Man Standing drags when it's not the opening song. In These Arms is played way too slow and Runaway deserves a bit of a retirement after 30 years. I don't understand why it's so hard for both fans and this band to pick 10 songs out of a list of 250 songs that wouldn't bore an audience to death and haven't been played in the last 10 years either.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

A two hour, 21 vanilla song show at a stadium of this size is absolutely pathetic.

Beside Springsteen and maybe couple of more,every band today and specially old bands play more or less same songs and have same setlist. They throw in couple of new songs from new album and everything else is thee same.
AC DC,Maiden,Metallica,Whitesnake,Aerosmith,Europe,Gn R,Van Halen,Deep Purple and others. Same is for new popular bands-Muse,Nickelback,Alter Bridge and others. So that is almost same with every band but here that is big problem.
Dont get me wrong,I dont defend them,I would love to hear some other songs but I think that is pretty much definite.
Europe will get other songs and different setlists for sure,maybe nothing spectacular but little different.

[quote=Supersonic;1248416]Aloha !



Stronger how? You've just changed 2 overplayed songs for other overplayed songs. Out of your supposedly stronger set there's 2 songs that've not been played last tour and 1 which hasn't been done since 2003. How's your set stronger? You've taken out one overplayed song and replaced it with another overplayed song.



Your list won't change much. Stop suggesting songs that have been played to death the last 30 years or songs that won't work live. Everyday has never worked and Last Man Standing drags when it's not the opening song. In These Arms is played way too slow and Runaway deserves a bit of a retirement after 30 years. I don't understand why it's so hard for both fans and this band to pick 10 songs out of a list of 250 songs that wouldn't bore an audience to death and haven't been played in the last 10 years either.

Salaam Aleikum,


let's have a few suggestions from you then..?

spot on, I only catch one Maiden show per tour and that is always enough, it's the energy that is lacking in the Bon Jovi show as much as the setlist.

I think also that songs like Everyday,Just older,Last man standing would be great to hear more often. Even songs like Undivided,Bounce Distance from Bounce record would be great. That's what the water made me with outro also should be on the setlist,Any other day with outro also,Thorn in my side from Circle,any song from TD album is challenge big time but with some of these songs you can get great setlist.

It's a problem because in every interview with any band member they brag that have have 70-90 songs rehearsed and that they change it up every show.

Well man,this is apple and orange,Maiden are always like fire,hard rock-metal style,can be compared with BJ but we will see when Europe be on menu.

They change at least one per show,they think that is enough,at least for them.

Pretty much like every show I have checked,
I just scrolled through the most recent posts on twitter and all the comments are positive and every one had a blast. Are these people casuals? Probably, but it still says alot considering I read here first, was expecting a shit storm on twitter and didn't find a negative comment. Again, there are probably some on there, but I just read the most recent onces from the last 20 minutes.

I also think the beginning of the setlist is dull and it definitely is time to retire the WLOL and LH duo. Even having one slot with one song rotating in each night would be an improvement at this point. Even better, play something unplanned from a banner (I know this is not likely).

Setlist aside, I do wish he moved around more. He was much better in this aspect in the Spring.

edit: went back and saw 1 person saying the sound was bad and another (from here maybe) saying the set lists no longer change, and many more positives.

1. This House Is Not for Sale
2. That's what the water made me
3. You Give Love a Bad Name
4. Lost highway
5. I die for you
6. Thorn in my side
7. Born again tommorow
8. Everyday
9. Born to Be My Baby
10. It's My Life
11: Living with the ghost
12: We Don't Run
13: Loves the only rule
14: Bed of Roses
15: Lay Your Hands on Me
16: Last man standing
17: Bad Medicine
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18. Blood on Blood
19. This aint a love song
20: Always
21. Wanted Dead or Alive
22. Livin' On A Prayer
23. Keep the faith
Something like this ;);););)

Here is my take on the set-list - Strictly talking the songs themselves, not how Jon sings them or how they are performed.

I don't mind the THINFS songs as much. I like the 1 - 2 This House / Knockout combo to kick off the show. They are quick songs and combine well together. I like the fact that they go into a hit song right after with Bad Name. Unfortunately, that's where it all ends.

To start with 2 new songs and then go into 4 non hits from post 2K albums is just pure painful overkill. I actually don't mind Roller Coaster in the set but it just needs to be relocated to go between two real hits. Removed God Bless entirely and insert it there. I'll even say the same about WDR being in there because it was a BB fan favorite.

Jon fixates on playing these non hit post 2k songs for no other reason besides them being easy to sing. Whole Lot of Leavin', Lost Highway, We Weren't Born to Follow, God Bless all need to go... especially in a 21 song set list. There are so many other songs (hit or fan favorites) and even full albums that are being ignored.

Sleep needs to be retired and Jon should replace it with a new fan favorite. Maybe Loves The Only Rule?

Bring in Everyday. Jon can do that. I can see Phil killing a song like The Distance. The list is endless.

Bottom line. Guys like Springsteen play and get away with a lot of rarities because they are playing 4 hour, 35 song sets. If Jon was doing that, sure play all the Lost Highway songs you want until you're blue in the face... But it's not fair to fans in a 2 hour, 21 song set.

Jon should read this and get it together!!!

You are making sense here. Although it doesn’t matter which songs they play Jon doesn’t deliver and neither do the guitar players. Listen to I’ll be there for you from this show, it’s a train wreck.

This will be the last tour I visit some shows. It’s too expensive.

I am sure Jon will never play the Distance.
He doesn't like to perform songs where Richie had major input. Therefore he will never perform The Distance, Stick to your guns .......

Sorry, that is a load of hooey.

wow so many audibles but the setlist is still so lame! hope they will be more creative once in Europe and that IBTFY will be played at every show!

No point in removing THINFS songs from setlist unless you want the tour to be "Greatest Hits" or "Nostalgia Band".

If I was Jon I would add some songs such as The Distance, Nobody's Hero, I'd Die For You to the set, longer set.
Somehow I would make the setlist be for BOTH casual and actual fans.

Aloha !

Just because you're playing new songs doesn't mean you're not a nostalgia band. They haven't had a hit single in over 10 years. Most people who see Bon Jovi live nowadays are going because of material released 20 years ago. Can you think of anyone who buys a ticket hoping they'll play song x from THINFS? Everyone on here who's bought a ticket has bought a ticket because they're hoping to hear a rare song and have some fun during the classics. That's nostalgia for you.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I was thinking about getting up early and catching this one live, but I'm glad I didn't. Possibly one of the worst setlists of the entire tour. How hard would it be for the band to play a setlist like this instead of the doldrums they've been giving us night after night? At least WGIGO seems to be gone for good.

01. This House
02. Knockout
03. Bad Name
04. Born to Be My Baby
05. Runaway
06. Radio Saved My Life Tonight
07. When We Were Us
08. Everyday
09. Who Says
10. In These Arms [David Vox, to give Jon a short break]
11. We Don't Run
12. Keep the Faith
13. Never Say Goodbye [Acoustic]
14. Bed of Roses
15. Lay Your Hands on Me
16. It's My Life
17. I'd Die For You
18. Bad Medicine
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19. Blood on Blood
20. Living With the Ghost
21. I'll Be There For You
22. Wanted
23. Prayer

same length as Tokyo, nothing too hard to sing on the set, and a couple gems (Never Say Goodbye, I'd Die For You, Radio) for the diehards that even some casuals may know. And nothing from Lost Highway.

Personally, I don't now anybody who became a BJ fan because they heard WAN or THINFS. It's the older stuff that attracted me too. Whatever Jon's trying to say, Bon Jovi aren't relevant anymore. If their songs are played on the radio, it's one of the classics.

Even though Im not a fan of the setlist, atleast its quite different from each show. GN'R have the 99% exact setlist night after night for the past 2 years.

I am not defending the set list, and yes she does only know the post 2000 stuff because i have it on in car etc

Not his finest performance, even for today’s standards. “Laboring through it” would be an understatement.



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https://youtu.be/JlYKPNbG3No

Please excuse me while I make up my mind about whether I should laugh or cry.

Doesn't the guy realize when it's time to quit? Is he really so much of a moron, or doesn't he simply give a shit anymore - as long as he gets the money, everything's fine?

However, the really bad news is that no one in the crowd seems to notice. That shit Jon's trying to sell up there has absolutely nothing to do with singing, let alone with singing on a professional level, yet the delusional people would most likely think the show is wonderful if he just stood on stage, shook his ass and smiled. (The sad fact is, numerous women probably would...)

Is this really what has become of the band we love?

I'm speechless.

Ouch.

Tico is great as usual, to highlight something positive :D

But moreover, why does he have to blatantly stare at his teleprompter for about every line?! On I'll Be There For You?!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlYK...youtu.be&t=310
That's definitely not a happy JBJ