I'm not really into Van Halen but that would have been a great support act to see before Bon Jovi.

Looking at Van Halen now is just sad - https://youtu.be/tihGrfgTv2o

Listening to Van Halen now is just painful.
https://youtu.be/NrqcKmOQTnM

Actually, at first sight I thought that was Jon with all the grey hair, black sweater, blue jeans and black shoes :-D

On second thought, they would still be a great opener today, as they have many things alike - age, deteriorating vocals, (ex-)drunk guitarists (oh no, wait, Richie is gone, damnit), ... ;-)

80's rock band in "doesn't age well" shocker....

The problem is David Lee Roth.... The rest of the band is fine!

What???? This isn't sticky any longer???

Yeah that was me, seemed a bit unecessary really - Richie's absence is pretty well established after two years!

I'm still waiting for anything regarding Richie to be moved to the other bands section. lol

Pfff....that is sad. This is THE TOPIC of the Forum. Of course, it's THE EVENT of the band's history (at least negatively speaking). But as a topic, highly highly entertaining!

It does seem kind of appropriate by now, doesn't it? I mean, neither Richie nor Orianthi are members of Bon Jovi and that's whose recording with Richie these days. Ouch. That's the 2nd most pessimistic thing I've ever written on this board. Perhaps I'm drunk and need to go home.

I don't really care where it winds up but I think Richie will always be considered "the Bon Jovi guitarist" like John Lennon was "a Beatle" long after the Beatles broke up. And Becky, coming from you, I'd have to say this comment is probably more optimistic than pessimistic. :) He might be out of the band for now, but I don't think he, or discussions about him, are going away any time soon.

I'm kidding you, of course, but I do laugh about it, because people have been trying to get him out of the Topix discussions ever since they got pissed off at him, but the discussions about him are far more lively than any that have been started about the band. Just as an example, somebody posted about the single being released about 13 hours ago (shortly after it was posted here) and there hasn't been a single reply to it, whereas the thread here has already hit 5 pages. On the other hand, something like the Nikki Lund accustions got responses almost before it was posted. It's nuts! (which is all apropos of nothing, and I'm not sure why I posted it at all other than it's helping me stay awake until 3:45 a.m. Sorry...)

I would hope that we would be allowed to put that to a vote. And my vote would be absolutely not because Al, Dave, Jon, Richie, and Tico are forever the foundation of everything that Bon Jovi has been built upon -- present Web site included. None of them should ever lose their citizenship in their own fan community.

As far as people posting what/where, there's been a protest among people about posting HERE because of the ads, but now that there's actually something worth talking about--the single--people are actively posting. If you notice HERE, when new threads are started, they are still getting many views, even if they don't get a lot of comments. (FAR more views than elsewhere.) There are also still a lot of people online here, even if they aren't commenting on anything. Also, in regards to people posting elsewhere, people have expressed confusion about "Do I post here or there or both places?" so both places have been pretty dead as far as comments go lately. The Nikki Lund investigation happened before the ad controversy here so you really can't compare the reaction to it to anything that's happened since all the complaints about the ads.

This tope should be a PERMANENT sticky. If people come back in 10 years, they should see this topic straight away. It's a really silly idea to unstick it in my opinion....and there's no reason to do so either!

agree. i can make peace with richie leaving...but richie not included in the band section is a NO, while a solo project from bobby for example...

Aloha !

Don't be daft, what's the point of something being a sticky when it's sole reason was to announce something? By now everyone knows, so no need for it to be a sticky anymore either.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Wow! I'm not sure what I said to set that off. I specifically said that it was Topix I was referring to about the lack of interest in band discussions AND the contrasting interest they showed in Richie, all the while complaining that discussions about Richie no longer have any place in a "Bon Jovi" forum.

It may have been an unfortunate comparison to use, but all I was doing was teasing about your agreement with the idea that all things Richie should be moved to the "other bands" forum. I mean, it's not like you've made a secret of your desire to see the band leave him in the dust to go forth and conquer. Seriously, it was just a joke and I certainly never meant to imply that the people who post here were like some of those who sometimes post on Topix, in any way other than their thinking that discussions about Richie should be moved out of Holy Ground. Sheesh!

Sorry if I offended.

Somehow I thought you meant the alternate board--which is also pretty dead.

I don't even know what Topix is as far as the internet goes. I thought that was a women's clothing store in the northeast.

Sorry for the confusion.

Because the topic is so good. There's so much awesome stuff in it, people should remember that all this stuff was discussed. It's not about the news factor, but about the importance of it in the band's life. Like we all woke up one day and then this happened and then we debated it for 2 years. If that doesn't deserve a sticky then I don't have a ****in' clue what does. Surely it's more important than some other stickies in the General Blow Job forum....

Richie stays within, dammit Becky.

All good.. I just wanted to make sure you knew I meant no harm. :)

i d like to mention my conspiracy theory about jon-bono &edge..
photos surfaced from a bachelorette party where the three rockers happened to be and drink together. through the years there have been many mentions that jon has a friendship or mutual respect and get together once in a while to catch up, from the top of my mind u2 had gone and seen them in 2003 tour, there were a photo in a hotel room in 2005 with jon and u2, jon has mentioned he was texting with bono before their glastonburry appearence in 2009 if i remember correctly and obviously these wont be the only circumstances...(jon visited them in msg yesterday as well)
where i m getting to...u2 is a band admitedly looks up to in many levels, even the wrong comment about richie and edge showed that jon looks up to them in many aspects. since they got out and talked i think its highly possible the richie deparure came up.
jon has a romantic side, thats why he got the band together in 1992, thats why he never truly tried to make another group. if the relationship between the 2 is in a decent lvl and hasnt reach a breaking point i think sooner or later jon will approach richie and reach his hand. (i am not saying who s wrong or right)
watching u2 who are the same 4 guys will probably have an effect on him. richies current state of mind doesnt really help though.

Conspiracy theory or not - I like the way you think! :)

lol thnx !!

What do you know about "Richie's current state of mind"? Just curious.

I have had a sign. Richie is not coming back.

27 years ago, my best friend Julie and I were playing with my grandmother's old jewelry. She had a big blue metal flower pin. Julie wanted to tape it to Richie's hat in one of those huge posters of Jon and Richie that I had hung in my bedroom so we did, never expecting it would actually stick. But it did--for nearly 30 years. All my other Bon Jovi posters have come down and been packed up for years, but that one has been hanging on the back of my closet door for about 15+ years because I always refused to take off the flower pin and pack it away. Today I discovered the flower pin had fallen off. :( It's truly the end of the innocence for me. :( That poster and that pin on the hat symbolized youth/innocence/fun. I'm actually kind of depressed about this. :(

Oh, you've got to Keep The Faith! ;)

I have a video. Richie is not coming back.

http://www.etcanada.com/blogs/etc_15...ncouver/music/

:!: geoblocked video

He didn't really say Richie wasn't coming back, he said Alec wasn't haha. It was a really amusing way to answer something he's been asked dozens of time though, I liked this.

Though on some level it's sad that he admits the original 5 will never play together again.

same meaning! :lol:

NB: I can't watch the video.

Haha just saying, he never says Richie is never coming back, just that Alec and Richie aren't both coming back.

So he said it in the end, yes or no???!!! :confused:

Quit drinking! :p

Haha I think we're debating two different things. Jon is asked if the members will ever be together again and he said No because Alec isn't coming back. Obviously it was said in jest to break the monotony of that question. He didn't actually answer if Richie was coming back, just that the 5 of them will never be together. But I digress, we all know the answer, I'm just pointing out I liked his joke :)

So wish I could watch this video! Can't from where I am, either.

:lol: OK, things are clearer now. Oh well, whatever he said I was able to guess the meaning, who wouldn't?!

This article is a repeat of what we'd read before but this part I had not seen before:

"Sambora is no longer a member of the band and will not re-join for forthcoming band tours, Bon Jovi told the media Saturday."

http://www.canada.com/entertainment/...#ixzz3jc6Zv4IB

Richie is doing a album, and then will tour with Orianthi. Richie will not return any time soon. So, Jon says RS will not coming back in the next tours (Asia 2015, World Tour 2016-17).


This thread keeping live. :)

That comment stood out to me as well. All this time richie keeps saying never say never, but I think Jon feels differently.

Aloha !

It's not a direct quote, but what the journalist made of it. So far I've not heard Jon talk about Richie coming back, apart from that one quote where he'd be hard pressed and all of that. There's no way he'd close the door on that one considering many people bailed last time once it was announced. He knows Richie attracts people to a show.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Yes, I had read it but blew past it since it wasn't a direct quote. I agree on the never say never.

Really? Was it that significant? I wouldn't say so, most of the venues were filled pretty nicely. Obviously, some die-hards were affected, but I feel like most of them are so dedicated that they went to shows anyway (cause they're die hards), but for casuals, the whole Richie situation created some media attention, which reminded about the shows.

Don't get me wrong, I believe (and hope) that Jon will keep the door open for Richie, but I'd say Richie's commercial effect is way too marginal that would force Jon to welcome Richie if he otherwise hated the idea. I think if Richie was to come back it would be a lot more related to a) friendship that was once there, and b) loyalty and place in history; not be one of those one-man bands that keeps losing members, like GNR, Whitesnake, Smashing Pumpkins, and be more like like U2. But then again, I didn't expect Jon to continue Bon Jovi brand without Richie for legacy reasons and I was obviously wrong, so here's that.