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Captain_jovi 07-20-2023 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1285572)
I think we read way too much into it and at the same time overestimate their abilities. After more than two decades of being fan I truly believe they have no idea what they are doing and have no plan at all when it comes to stuff like that.
I don't think there is any higher reason for the missing track(s) but that they just messed it up. The pattern of missing tracks is too much of a chaos to blame recording lenghts or something like that for it.
While Stuttgart 1996 is an absolute gem show-wise, I was shocked when I listened to the mix. For a professional recording from a band that big as Bon Jovi, the quality is just terrible. Either they compressed it to death to save space and make broadcasting easier or they have no idea how to record and mix a live recording (and thus mostly depended on recordings and mixes from third parties when it came to live B-sides).
There are audience recordings that sound much better than this professional recorded show.
I don't think it was recorded with the intent of being one day released though. More than likely it was a basic mix for the band to listen to after the show to make notes and see what worked. Had this been earmarked for release or b-side I have to assume it'd be remixed entirely. For that reason I can't really knock the quality of it, even though you're bang on.

David is really high in the mix, for all we know this was intended for him, who knows.

rolo_tomachi 07-20-2023 11:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1285573)
I don't think it was recorded with the intent of being one day released though. More than likely it was a basic mix for the band to listen to after the show to make notes and see what worked. Had this been earmarked for release or b-side I have to assume it'd be remixed entirely. For that reason I can't really knock the quality of it, even though you're bang on.

David is really high in the mix, for all we know this was intended for him, who knows.

I agree with this point.. all these these shows have the basic mix, in fact you can compare the singles of the time where you can find superior live mixes. One of the things about this show is that it doesn't have that feeling of reverberation in the voice and environment. In any case, it is also a problem with the transmission itself, you can compare the audios of these shows in JBJ Experience where they sound clearer in terms of quality, but it still feels like a basic mix.

Thinny 07-21-2023 12:31 PM
I'll take the basic mixes over nothing. They are good enough to enjoy. They are obviously doing it on a budget, but I'm just happy to have all these shows in decent quality, regardless.

lolo5769 07-21-2023 04:55 PM
Hi to all

someone knew the tongiht gig ?

See ya

Laurent

Kathleen 07-22-2023 12:54 AM
Well I didn't record - if anyone knows what was played I could catch a replay if necessary.

bonjovi90 07-22-2023 03:15 AM
Someone said it was a repeat of Hershey 2010.

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lolo5769 07-28-2023 08:03 PM
hi to all,

someone know the gig tonight ? I hope it's not a repaet.

See ya

Laurent

nikos greece 07-28-2023 09:32 PM
the idea that it wasnt recorded for release is nt true imo...

When you have pure sources from each instrument with minimum bleeding there are huge possibilities mixing wise...

The Bj camp is known to be lazy BUT if a pro mixer decided to mix and master all these sources the final results would blow you away!!

There are many techniques to be applied to make it sound huge and shiny, all you need is good recorded sources and great performances.

(there are also certain settings that could be applied in general with minimum tweaking, the concerts we listen have minimum processing, i think obie is able for better results but thinks its good enough for its purpose, a live presentation but they could sound much better)

Captain_jovi 07-28-2023 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1285627)
the idea that it wasnt recorded for release is nt true imo...

When you have pure sources from each instrument with minimum bleeding there are huge possibilities mixing wise...

The Bj camp is known to be lazy BUT if a pro mixer decided to mix and master all these sources the final results would blow you away!!

There are many techniques to be applied to make it sound huge and shiny, all you need is good recorded sources and great performances.

(there are also certain settings that could be applied in general with minimum tweaking, the concerts we listen have minimum processing, i think obie is able for better results but thinks its good enough for its purpose, a live presentation but they could sound much better)
But why would they have been recording all these shows if it wasn't for internal use? The implication that they were all recorded for a specific purpose, I don't buy. I do agree someone could take these and edit them to sound good, but why would they do that for this method of releasing them? I could see if they were selling them, to clean them up and make them worth the money received but they're not going to do that for shows someone is choosing to be played for free. It's not like the general public is going to be more interested in purchasing one-off shows if the drums are louder in the mix

The pure sources for each instrument has nothing to do with the purpose it was recorded for, especially if its purpose was mixes for the band to review set to levels they ask for.

StickToYourGuns45 07-29-2023 12:11 AM
Acoustic AOL show @ Burbank 02' repeat today.

Kathleen 07-29-2023 01:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StickToYourGuns45 (Post 1285629)
Acoustic AOL show @ Burbank 02' repeat today.
Thanks - I started to record and then realized it was a repeat.

Pivek 07-29-2023 08:47 AM
And here we go - it was 100th broadcast of SiriusXM "Live from the archives".

rolo_tomachi 07-29-2023 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StickToYourGuns45 (Post 1285629)
Acoustic AOL show @ Burbank 02' repeat today.
A pity, although it was good for me, since I got home late to catch it.

Thierry 08-04-2023 09:35 AM
Any updates on today?

Faceman 08-04-2023 07:24 PM
Lost Highway: The Concert















Just kidding ;)

StickToYourGuns45 08-05-2023 12:11 AM
Milton Keynes 2001 Part 1

Setlist:

1. One Wild Night
2. Raise Your Hands
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. In These Arms
5. It's My Life
6. Born To Be My Baby
7. Bed Of Roses
8. I Got The Girl
9. Captain Crash And The Beauty Queen From Mars
10. Just Older
11. Wild In The Streets

End part 1

Will be interesting to see if part 2 is complete. About 1:30 of the show left. Second half should be:

12. Blaze Of Glory
13. Lay Your Hands On Me
14. Keep The Faith w/ Sympathy For The Devil
15. Bad Medicine w/ Shout

16. I'll Be There For You
17. Say It Isn't So
18. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
19. Tequila
20. Twist And Shout

21. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
22. Wanted Dead Or Alive

23. Livin On A Prayer

Kathleen 08-05-2023 12:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StickToYourGuns45 (Post 1285655)
Milton Keynes 2001 Part 1

Setlist:

1. One Wild Night
2. Raise Your Hands
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. In These Arms
5. It's My Life
6. Born To Be My Baby
Great - glad I recorded. Thanks

Thierry 08-05-2023 11:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StickToYourGuns45 (Post 1285655)
Milton Keynes 2001 Part 1

Setlist:

1. One Wild Night
2. Raise Your Hands
3. You Give Love A Bad Name
4. In These Arms
5. It's My Life
6. Born To Be My Baby
7. Bed Of Roses
8. I Got The Girl
9. Captain Crash And The Beauty Queen From Mars
10. Just Older
11. Wild In The Streets

End part 1

Will be interesting to see if part 2 is complete. About 1:30 of the show left. Second half should be:

12. Blaze Of Glory
13. Lay Your Hands On Me
14. Keep The Faith w/ Sympathy For The Devil
15. Bad Medicine w/ Shout

16. I'll Be There For You
17. Say It Isn't So
18. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
19. Tequila
20. Twist And Shout

21. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
22. Wanted Dead Or Alive

23. Livin On A Prayer
Let's see, there was a videotape out back in the day with 3/4 of the show in soundboard audio and distant video. Was this broadcasted in stereo or mono?

fanofrem 08-05-2023 01:44 PM
SiriusXM Bon Jovi Radio ch. 709 stuff
 
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Attachment 1743

MK 01 artwork


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Pivek 08-05-2023 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1285657)
Was this broadcasted in stereo or mono?
Stereo. And IMHO better quality than FM broadcast, so maybe better source than YouTube ;)

rolo_tomachi 08-05-2023 10:43 PM
Milton Keynes 2001 Artwork
Click here: https://i.ibb.co/Vw58tfm/Milton-2001-fixx.png
;)

fanofrem 08-05-2023 11:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1285660)
Milton Keynes 2001 Artwork
Click here: https://i.ibb.co/ZLQdw07/Milton-2001.png
;)

Amazing artwork


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NYIslanders91 08-07-2023 12:42 AM
Hey would anybody happen to have the MP3 of Bon Jovi Live from MetLife stadium 2013 from the SiriusXM broadcast?
I apologize if this isn’t allowed here.


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Kev 08-07-2023 09:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYIslanders91 (Post 1285663)
Hey would anybody happen to have the MP3 of Bon Jovi Live from MetLife stadium 2013 from the SiriusXM broadcast?
I apologize if this isn’t allowed here.


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bonjovi90 08-07-2023 10:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYIslanders91 (Post 1285663)
Hey would anybody happen to have the MP3 of Bon Jovi Live from MetLife stadium 2013 from the SiriusXM broadcast?
I apologize if this isn’t allowed here.


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Apology accepted :mrgreen:

NYIslanders91 08-07-2023 05:22 PM
Bummer!! Thanks [emoji1598]


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StickToYourGuns45 08-12-2023 12:05 AM
Milton Keynes 2001 Pt 2.


Blaze Of Glory - Skipped
1. Lay Your Hands On Me
2. Keep The Faith w/ Sympathy For The Devil
3. Bad Medicine w/ Shout

Encore:
4. I'll Be There For You
5. Say It Isn't So
6. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
7. Tequila
8. Twist And Shout

Encore 2:
9. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night
Wanted Dead Or Alive -Skipped

Livin' On A Prayer - Skipped

Always a shame to skip songs, however glad we got what we got. Have plenty of versions of Wanted and Prayer. Thanks Obie, 2003 next?

Supersonic 08-12-2023 12:25 PM
Aloha !

That show at Milton Keynes is tough to listen to. Jon's clearly having trouble keeping up with the band which is subsequently dragging the band down. The first hour of the show is okay but after Wild in the Streets he's done and yet he keeps pushing his voice more and more resulting in vocals nearly going off the rails. Surely there's better shows from the One Wild Night tour?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

bonjovi90 08-12-2023 01:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1285681)
Aloha !

That show at Milton Keynes is tough to listen to. Jon's clearly having trouble keeping up with the band which is subsequently dragging the band down. The first hour of the show is okay but after Wild in the Streets he's done and yet he keeps pushing his voice more and more resulting in vocals nearly going off the rails. Surely there's better shows from the One Wild Night tour?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
Yep. Cardiff, Paris or Cologne were far better vocally.

StickToYourGuns45 08-14-2023 05:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1285682)
Yep. Cardiff, Paris or Cologne were far better vocally.
I'm actually surprised we are getting shows were the vocals aren't great, i feel like Dublin 2001 was similar in this regard.

Still happy to be getting these shows and really hope these continue. Would be great to get a proper 2003 Electric or Half/Half show.

Thierry 08-18-2023 12:39 AM
Assuming today is another rerun of one of the already aired shows?

StickToYourGuns45 08-18-2023 02:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1285687)
Assuming today is another rerun of one of the already aired shows?
Have been listening, but am yet to hear the announcement. I would assume this week will be a re-run.

Will update once I know.

Kathleen 08-18-2023 04:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StickToYourGuns45 (Post 1285688)
Have been listening, but am yet to hear the announcement. I would assume this week will be a re-run.

Will update once I know.
Thanks - it's always nice to know ahead of time. If I don't hear - I default to recording and then listening LOL

StickToYourGuns45 08-19-2023 12:05 AM
Repeat of Philly 2018 Part 1

rolo_tomachi 08-19-2023 12:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StickToYourGuns45 (Post 1285693)
Repeat of Philly 2018 Part 1
It's a relief, since today I have problems with my computer.

Kathleen 08-19-2023 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StickToYourGuns45 (Post 1285693)
Repeat of Philly 2018 Part 1
Thanks, I started recording and recognised it.

StickToYourGuns45 08-26-2023 01:45 AM
As expected Philly 2018 pt 2

Thierry 09-01-2023 09:42 AM
Any news about tonight?

Kathleen 09-01-2023 10:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1285772)
Any news about tonight?
My question too. Going to the Bruce show at Met Life tonight but I can start my recording before I leave if I have to.

StickToYourGuns45 09-01-2023 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1285777)
My question too. Going to the Bruce show at Met Life tonight but I can start my recording before I leave if I have to.
Have a great time Kathleen!! It seems that they have stopped doing the promos in the days leading up, I haven't heard one since LV 2011. Not long now and we'll know. Hoping for Bounce Tour proper.


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