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Another minor update, according to Phil Collen's wife (of all people), the re-issue is due out this summer.
On a side note, they've decided to release "It's All About Believin'" as a single. Pointless as it's not a brilliant song and Mirrorball is coming up to a year old. They could have written and recorded a couple of new ones in that time. |
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I'm inclined to agree with Vivian then. There have been some nuggets scattered among the releases, but songs written entirely by outsiders, songs and strategies that directly rip from a more successful peer, rehashing old hits.... I do expect better and know they are capable.
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I've had that impression actually, come to think of it. Each member of the band seem to give off different and sketchy information regarding new releases, etc.
The lack of new music bothers me as well. Just 2 studio albums in the last decade? Really? Even during their "dark" period in the 90's they were still consistent and active with writing/recording. Rather than constantly touring America co-headlining with other (hate using this term) "has-beens", they could have easily knocked out a few more albums and maintain some sort of vision and direction with their writing. The reason I say that is we waited 6 years for Sparkle Lounge and whilst it was decent listening for the most part, it just seemed like a bunch of random ideas and cast-offs thrown together. Compare this to Slang, Euphoria and even X which sound like much fuller albums. Plus the new songs on Mirrorball were very uninspired. |
I'd forgotten about the studio tracks on Mirror Ball. Utter crap. Should have been more live songs in their place.
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I did like Undefeated to be fair, particularly when they opened with it live. Though as a hardcore fan I probably shouldn't. The other two were quite lame.
I've never bothered to check out Manraze. Silly question but how do they differ from Def Leppard? |
I really recommend checking out Phil and Viv's FB page for the questions they answer. Phil finally drops cocky "We're the best band in the world" garbage and flat out says no one gives a shit about their new material. To the point where they don't want to make another album. Vivian and Phil are not on the same page at all.
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I follow both Phil and Viv and don't know what you're talking about them being on "different page". Phil has said that they don't want to release a whole album of new music as it won't sell, but they're thinking about releasing new material digitally a few songs at a time. I haven't seen anything from Viv to contradict that. Viv just likes to get out and play, and he's playing with all these different bands around the world. Phil doesn Manraze, Joe has Down'n'Outs... I don't see what the fuss is about.
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"I'm not certain that we're all on the same page as regards that." I realize nothings set in stone but here and there Viv mentions that he agrees with the fans the next album should be far more raw and rock and complains he doesn't have the loudest voice in the band. |
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But I still don't think there's any problems between the members, it's just normal banter between tours when they're not discussing with each other face to face. Ice |
Vivian now reckons the Slang reissue won't be out til later in the year.
http://www.deflepparduk.com/2012newsjun37.html http://www.deflepparduk.com/2012newsjun38.html Kind of expected this seeing as they're putting finishing touched to an old Christmas song they originally started work on during those sessions. Oh and they've released re-recorded versions of "Rock of Ages" and "Pour Some Sugar on Me" this week. |
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I did see the mention of the re-records. What's the point? |
I know, waste of studio time really. They should be recording new songs instead.
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I love DL, they were an amazing band once but they're totally destroying their legacy now. On the other hand, even if I don't like those nostalgia co-headlining tours (they're not friends, they just know that each band is not able to sell out even smaller arenas on its own and it gives them another reason to play 90min shows full of songs from Pyro-Hyst-Adre time), I'd love to see both Poison and Def Leppard once. And such double show would be a great solution for me because it'd mean just one ticket and one journey to and from the show. I need to hear Hysteria live. One of the best songs in history () ((and this one pleasee )) |
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This is a good interview regarding the re-recordings. I understand why they're doing it, but I probably won't be buying them. Ice |
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Hysteria 2013 has now been released.
As with PSSoM and RoA 2012, largely identical to the original album version. |
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Speaking of Def Leppard, they finally played a worthwhile setlist in Vegas:
Good Morning Freedom Wasted Mirror, Mirror (Look Into My Eyes) Foolin' Promises When Love and Hate Collide Let It Go Slang Bringin' on the Heartbreak Switch 625 Hysteria Live: Women Rocket Animal Love Bites Pour Some Sugar on Me Armageddon It Gods of War Don't Shoot Shotgun Run Riot Hysteria Excitable Love and Affection Encore: Rock of Ages Photograph |
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And they're not afraid to do so! Respect? Or desperation? Still all great tunes though, but what's the point in them still recording new music if they are never going to play it live? Andi |
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And there is nothing wrong with nostalgia :) |
Cool (if random!) set list. They did hint at doing tracks from the first album and I'm glad they dug "Slang" out as well.
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That actually is damn good set. Some other band(s) should look, listen & learn. Everything doesn't have to be on-the-day. Quite the opposite. Paying tribute to ones past is not all about turning ones back to present, it's about new generation of fans as well.
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I never thought I'd see/hear this happen. When they did Don't Shoot Shotgun on the Hysteria tour... they were lazy about that intro and opted to just skip right over it and go into the first verse. They really do it justice here! |
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This. Just because a band can keep releasing new albums doesn't mean the band cannot revisit the past. |
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I want to hear the new material too, it keeps it interesting. I want them to be proud and not afraid to show of their work. I saw them on the sparkle lounge tour and it was 2 new songs of the album plus an old setlist they have played a 100 times. Bon jovi certainly pick the wrong setlist, but at least each tour, and even nights within the tour they mix it up, in addition to usually around 5 new songs, they play an almost career spanning set. Andi |
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Rush serves up a shining example of exactly how to do it. Their sets are made up of a good chunk of the latest album along with well known classics and obscure album tracks. Just look at the Clockwork Angels setlist. Their setlists are pretty static! When they toured doing the entire Moving Pictures album... it was done with that focus while still doing obscure material from throughout their history (which is precisely the model Def Leppard is currently following.) So if Bon Jovi were to do it.. it's fine to do a tour that celebrates Slippery When Wet or New Jersey by doing the entire album.. but NOT on a new album tour. It would have to be a separate tour. |
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I love a bit of nostalgia, don't get me wrong - but the reason I probably won't be going to see bands like Aerosmith or Leppard again for example is that I have seen them already and could probably predict 95% of the set, and I know they won't be playing any of the newer stuff, especially once that tour is over. I Liked 'Just push play' and 'Songs from the sparkle lounge'' for example, but it sucks that it's pretty unlikely I will see the songs live at a new gig. Andi |
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Anyway back to Def Leppard, after X tour, they started doing those double headlining shows and that's when the setlist started to suffer. I think they played max 2 songs out of YEAH and 2 (or max 3 songs) for SFTSL. Way too few. I used to say they caught the Poison setlist disease. But maybe that has something to do with the shortened time - they did double headlining after all. BJ never had to suffer through that. This LV residency is focused on Hysteria. The first part of the set is just a bonus and they've done well busting out old songs including Good Morning Freedom (come on, in BJ history that's like busting out Love Is War). I'm good with bands touring and playing full albums as long as it's their classic albums. I am totally against bands touring and playing 2/3 or the entire new album. That is just shit. |
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But yeah, you raised a good point re: these co-headlining tours being part of the problem for DL. Both times I saw them they were 'sharing' (still as headliner..) the bill with first Whitesnake/Alice Cooper and on the second show Journey. Andi |
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I also caught the DL double headlining, with Whitesnake, but I went because I wanted to see Whitesnake not DL. Hopefully DL can headline again in the future. Or if they want doubleheadlining, just tour with Bon Jovi. That would be a great tour if they each play their full set. |
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According to this, it looks like the Viva Hysteria shows from earlier this year will be put together for a DVD!
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Looks like Don't Shoot Shotgun is now getting played in the sets out in Europe now. Nice! |
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