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steel_horse75 09-05-2020 09:09 PM

Richie Sambora!!!
 
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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1266645)
Don't worry, Thinny jumping over anyone saying Richie doesn't look good is as old as steel_horse saying he doesn't like current Jovi on every occasion.

I think Richie looks a bit like an old aunt (actually a bit like the cleaning lady that worked for me grandfather in his final years), but he's been doing so in the last 10 years. As long as his album sounds great I couldn't care less. :D

Haha. But modern day bon jovi aren’t the best. Not sure if I mentioned it.
Thank you for the old stuff when they were untouchable
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Butters 09-05-2020 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1266646)
Actually, my comment wasn't aimed at liljovi93, all they really said was that he looked homeless and it was a bit awkward. I get the awkwardness.

Normally it's when people say he's looking drunk when he clearly isn't that gets my back up, ....

Now that people can't say that anymore, they say that he's looking unwell....when in actual fact he's just looking like a 60 year old. I watched the whole video and saw nothing wrong him health wise...but it's nothing new from Butters...

I couldn't care less about the way he's dressed...but I guess when there's nothing else to complain about.... ;)

Ho Hum....

Ugh. I love Richie and would love to see him happy and healthy for his own sake, and for the opportunity to get great music. In my opinion, he looks to be in a bad way and has been for quite a few years. I take no pleasure from holding this opinion and I would love to be wrong.

angelsambo 09-06-2020 03:09 AM

inside Norman’s head:''what the **** is this guy playing?''

jon-flp 09-06-2020 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1266646)
Now that people can't say that anymore, they say that he's looking unwell....when in actual fact he's just looking like a 60 year old.

You can't just say "he looks like a 60 years old" when the interviewer is more than 70 years old and looks waaaaay better than Richie.

I know that everyone has their own style and mood. But we already saw Richie doing a lot of interviews and it's clear that he has been weird in almost every interview since the final of 2013 to now.

I don't think it's normal. When you say "he was probably more interested in play guitar than being interviewed". He didn't know that he was there to be interviewed? C'mon.

I just hope and pray to Richie to be alright. He's one of the reasons I started to play guitar. I love him and just wish him the best.

Thinny 09-06-2020 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jon-flp (Post 1266657)
You can't just say "he looks like a 60 years old" when the interviewer is more than 70 years old and looks waaaaay better than Richie.

Norm looks great for his age, you'd never guess he was 70, but I guess he hasn't lived the same kinda lifestyle that Richie has. :p I know lots of guys in their early 60s that look much older that Richie.

I just don't understand how someone looks at that interview and thinks "man, Richie looks unwell...". I've seen interviews in the last 7 years where he has looked unwell and this isn't one of them as far as I'm concerned...

Maybe it's me....but i honestly don't think it is. I think due to the up and downs of the last few years, people analyze every bit of footage from Richie until they see something that they don't feel right about. And I also think that people have a problem with their heroes getting older.

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Originally Posted by jon-flp (Post 1266657)
I don't think it's normal. When you say "he was probably more interested in play guitar than being interviewed". He didn't know that he was there to be interviewed? C'mon.

It's clear to me that they are just setting things up and getting ready for the interview. I don't think that is the actual interview. The person doing the instagram live probably didn't pick the best time. From what has been posted about the intervew it's from a documentary about Norm's place, and they weren't talking about that at all, just talking about guitars, almost like a casual chat rather than an interview...which is what I think it mostly was.

But let's see what the final interview is like shall we.

YOVANAfromPeru 09-07-2020 02:01 AM

The main problem here is the clothes.

Xavi 09-07-2020 10:20 AM

Richie reminded me to Charlie Sheen on the "Two and a half men" tv serie.

YOVANAfromPeru 09-25-2020 04:02 AM

JBJ: "The departure of Richie, the booze and the drugs and that stuff, it broke my heart. I got through it with a lot of help, talking to people, reading books, and time. Time heals that kind of disappointment."
https://tribunecontentagency.com/art...ed-rock-stars/

YOVANAfromPeru 09-26-2020 03:50 AM

JBJ: "Our last album was marked by uncertainty after our guitarist Richie Sambora left. And although not a day goes by that I would not like to have Richie in the band again, we have overcome the period of uncertainty."
https://www.blick.ch/people-tv/musik...d16102066.html

rolo_tomachi 09-26-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1267301)
JBJ: "The departure of Richie, the booze and the drugs and that stuff, it broke my heart. I got through it with a lot of help, talking to people, reading books, and time. Time heals that kind of disappointment."
https://tribunecontentagency.com/art...ed-rock-stars/

Jon always carries the brunt of Richie's drama with drugs and alcohol, but the guy doesn't take responsibility for his decisions as a leader and a friend. Jon once hinted that fortunately Richie wasn't The Edge, well, sadly Jon isn't Bono either.

The person who was truly heartbroken was Richie, not you, Jon.

I'm sorry, but when Jon's ego is big enough to make himself the victim of everything that happened, it makes me want to vomit. Jon still doesn't take his part of the blame. That's why this band and their approach will continue to suck.

Thinny 09-26-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1267455)
JBJ: "Our last album was marked by uncertainty after our guitarist Richie Sambora left. And although not a day goes by that I would not like to have Richie in the band again, we have overcome the period of uncertainty."
https://www.blick.ch/people-tv/musik...d16102066.html

What a strange thing to say. I bet that makes Phil feel great...

rolo_tomachi 09-26-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1267467)
What a strange thing to say. I bet that makes Phil feel great...

Open the eyes, Phil just is a pose in this band.

steel_horse75 09-26-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1267467)
What a strange thing to say. I bet that makes Phil feel great...

Phil does what he's told. Hired gun.

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rolo_tomachi 09-26-2020 11:53 AM


bonjovi90 09-26-2020 11:54 AM

Phil's a hired gun and it's obvious that Jon misses the chemistry he once used to have with Richie, both on and off stage. One can't help but see that there are more people up there, yet Jon seems a lot more lonely to me.
And didn't he already say a couple of months ago that both Shanks's and Bobby's style of guitar playing were a lot more fitting and closer to Richie than Phil's sytle?

Thinny 09-26-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1267477)
Phil's a hired gun and it's obvious that Jon misses the chemistry he once used to have with Richie, both on and off stage. One can't help but see that there are more people up there, yet Jon seems a lot more lonely to me.
And didn't he already say a couple of months ago that both Shanks's and Bobby's style of guitar playing were a lot more fitting and closer to Richie than Phil's sytle?

I'm not denying any of that, but it just feels a little incosiderate to me. One minute he's pushing Phil as a full on member and the next he's say he wishes Richie was in the band every day. Even if that's true, if it was me, I wouldn't be putting it out there in the media....

rolo_tomachi 09-26-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1267482)
I'm not denying any of that, but it just feels a little incosiderate to me. One minute he's pushing Phil as a full on member and the next he's say he wishes Richie was in the band every day. Even if that's true, if it was me, I wouldn't be putting it out there in the media....

This is Jon. As to say that his gang is moving on he has to beat up Richie and add despite his departure for .... drugs and alcohol. Strange guy, says he loves Richie but never cared about him. That interview after the Unplugged 2007 fiasco still gives me goose bumps. When Jon say that Richie had broken his heart. Seriously Jon ?, the only broken and trampled heart was Richie hitting rock bottom.

His job as leader and friend should have been - stop the show and postpone it. All that motto of the show must continue no matter what, it is what has brought us here.

Now Jon says he wants to take it easy and do the tours more relaxed, of course, when your guitarist and right hand man proposed this in 2013, you spat in his face and pushed him to another tour of 100 shows/ year. In the end, no football team, Instant Karma.

The result of all this, we don't have Richie, Jon lost his voice, we have a band that doesn't exist in the recording studio, and to top it all, John Shanks not only continues to produce, but is also on tour with them.

Rdkopper 09-26-2020 02:11 PM

You guys are reading this all wrong. Every time Jon mentions the word "Richie" everyone has to over analyze every word he says.

This House was the first (and only album without Richie released to date)... Jon was unsure if the band could move forward without Richie and although he misses him in the band, This House proved that they could move forward and he's now confident in the band's future without him. That's how I took it. It's a check the box quote.

I don't think there is anything to read into. Jon quoted that perfectly... Now if Jon said that he didn't miss him in the band, I could see that sparking some conversation. Or if Jon said that the band's music was suffering without Riche, I could see that sparking conversation...





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Thinny 09-26-2020 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1267487)
I don't think there is anything to read into. Jon quoted that perfectly... Now if Jon said that he didn't miss him in the band, I could see that sparking some conversation. Or if Jon said that the band's music was suffering without Riche, I could see that sparking conversation...

To me "not a day goes by that I would not like to have Richie in the band again" to me translates as "this band is not as good without Richie", but yes you are right, he could just mean he misses the camaraderie.

Faceman 09-26-2020 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1267487)
I don't think there is anything to read into. Jon quoted that perfectly... Now if Jon said that he didn't miss him in the band, I could see that sparking some conversation. Or if Jon said that the band's music was suffering without Riche, I could see that sparking conversation...

If he would just shut the fcuk up about that topic nobody would care anyway ;)

But watch out, guys - there might be a twist nobody's thinking about:
As long as Jon keeps mentioning Richie from time to time and in that way he did in that quote, he keeps the public hope alive for a comeback someday. It doesn't even matter if there's any truth to it or not. Even fans who don't like the new songs but still reading the news keep it in their subconscious mind, if they realize it or not and thus keep some kind of interest alive.

Btw. it's the same way some governments work, but the other way around - constructing fear of something that doesn't exist.

TheseDaysEra 09-29-2020 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1267484)
This is Jon. As to say that his gang is moving on he has to beat up Richie and add despite his departure for .... drugs and alcohol. Strange guy, says he loves Richie but never cared about him. That interview after the Unplugged 2007 fiasco still gives me goose bumps. When Jon say that Richie had broken his heart. Seriously Jon ?, the only broken and trampled heart was Richie hitting rock bottom.

His job as leader and friend should have been - stop the show and postpone it. All that motto of the show must continue no matter what, it is what has brought us here.

Now Jon says he wants to take it easy and do the tours more relaxed, of course, when your guitarist and right hand man proposed this in 2013, you spat in his face and pushed him to another tour of 100 shows/ year. In the end, no football team, Instant Karma.

The result of all this, we don't have Richie, Jon lost his voice, we have a band that doesn't exist in the recording studio, and to top it all, John Shanks not only continues to produce, but is also on tour with them.

great analysis lol. I couldn't agree more.

JoviForever 10-02-2020 02:41 PM

There’s an interview on the BBC website today - makes mention of the fact he has not spoken to Richie since the Rock and Roll HOF appearance and wishes he was ‘sane and sober’ so he could still be in the band. Quite sad to read.��

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54377892

† ÀžžÀ † 10-02-2020 06:00 PM

Very sad and pretty much ends hope of a reunion.

Thinny 10-02-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviForever (Post 1268347)
There’s an interview on the BBC website today - makes mention of the fact he has not spoken to Richie since the Rock and Roll HOF appearance and wishes he was ‘sane and sober’ so he could still be in the band. Quite sad to read.��

If he hasn't spoken to him for 2.5 years how can he expect to know how he currently is?

He wishes he was in the band, but hasn't put in a call to see how he's doing. Sounds like more JBJ bull to me....if you are freinds then you call each other to see how you are doing, even when things are rough. Maybe even especially when things are rough. Cements the fact to me that Jon and Richie haven't been "freinds" for a long time...

Rdkopper 10-03-2020 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1268425)
If he hasn't spoken to him for 2.5 years how can he expect to know how he currently is?

He wishes he was in the band, but hasn't put in a call to see how he's doing. Sounds like more JBJ bull to me....if you are freinds then you call each other to see how you are doing, even when things are rough. Maybe even especially when things are rough. Cements the fact to me that Jon and Richie haven't been "freinds" for a long time...

I'm sure they know people in the same circle and I'm sure he gets updated.

Also, Jon and Richie were brothers. Jon can see a video of Richie and see things that nobody else can.

Don't be so naive

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YOVANAfromPeru 10-03-2020 08:04 AM

I saw a couple more quotes:
"Some things happened that are the catalyst for why other good things happened. You know, there's not a day that goes by that I don't wish that Richie had his life together and was still in the band, you know, but and yet, you know in a weird way it's because of his inability to get it together anymore that we went on and wrote This house is not for sale and it was a very strong record in that I'm able to write songs like this. Maybe we would have gotten lazy, maybe you know we would have been I don't know where we would have gone. But through all that pain and then you know heartbreak, um came this."
"I don't even know how he is doing, which I very much regret because our friendship went very deep. In retrospect, everything that happened is a shame. The fact that he finally left the band happened at his own request and in the end it was the best thing for everyone involved."

Thinny 10-03-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1268498)
I'm sure they know people in the same circle and I'm sure he gets updated.

I really don't think Jon and Richie ever socialised in the same circles outside of the band. They are both very different people. I doubt Jon cares enough to have people spying on Richie for him. Jon surrounds himself with yes men that tell him what he wants to hear....always has, always will. If he really wanted to know how Richie was I'm sure he has his number.

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1268498)
Also, Jon and Richie were brothers. Jon can see a video of Richie and see things that nobody else can.

Don't be so naive

Anyone that believes they were "brothers" in the last 20 years are the naive ones in my opinion. Maybe at the beginning, but after New Jersey everything changed. The band have always let the public see what they want them to see and nothing more...I've heard stories from people that toured with them in the 90s that definitely suggest "brothers" was a fantasy they created. If my brother was struggling I know I would call him once in a while to check in. After 30 years together you just don't stop calling your brother, or even your best friends. The wound runs much deeper than any of us know and the story we've been told won't even scratch the surface.

JackieBlue 10-03-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1268503)
I saw a couple more quotes:
"Some things happened that are the catalyst for why other good things happened. You know, there's not a day that goes by that I don't wish that Richie had his life together and was still in the band, you know, but and yet, you know in a weird way it's because of his inability to get it together anymore that we went on and wrote This house is not for sale and it was a very strong record in that I'm able to write songs like this. Maybe we would have gotten lazy, maybe you know we would have been I don't know where we would have gone. But through all that pain and then you know heartbreak, um came this."
"I don't even know how he is doing, which I very much regret because our friendship went very deep. In retrospect, everything that happened is a shame. The fact that he finally left the band happened at his own request and in the end it was the best thing for everyone involved."

Thanks, Yovana. Do you have a link handy for that 2nd quote, or know which interview it was from? I recognize the first one but I've been on a Jon-free diet for the last day or so, and I must have missed it.

That's an interesting twist to his usual schtick: "In retrospect, everything that happened is a shame. The fact that he finally left the band happened at his own request and in the end it was the best thing for everyone involved."

As much as it ticks me off, if Jon keeps running off at the mouth, and changing his story up, we may eventually get to the truth.


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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1268498)
I'm sure they know people in the same circle and I'm sure he gets updated... Also, Jon and Richie were brothers. Jon can see a video of Richie and see things that nobody else can... Don't be so naive...

Want to rethink that, RDK? :p

JBJ: "I don't even know how he is doing ..."

Xavi 10-03-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1268519)
I really don't think Jon and Richie ever socialised in the same circles outside of the band. They are both very different people. I doubt Jon cares enough to have people spying on Richie for him. Jon surrounds himself with yes men that tell him what he wants to hear....always has, always will. If he really wanted to know how Richie was I'm sure he has his number.



Anyone that believes they were "brothers" in the last 20 years are the naive ones in my opinion. Maybe at the beginning, but after New Jersey everything changed. The band have always let the public see what they want them to see and nothing more...I've heard stories from people that toured with them in the 90s that definitely suggest "brothers" was a fantasy they created. If my brother was struggling I know I would call him once in a while to check in. After 30 years together you just don't stop calling your brother, or even your best friends. The wound runs much deeper than any of us know and the story we've been told won't even scratch the surface.

You dont stop saying that Jon doesnt call Richie,but why dont you say that Richie dont call Jon neither?
I guess,friendhip works in both directions,not in just one.

YOVANAfromPeru 10-03-2020 12:50 PM

Jackie, I don't have the link but that quote is the translation from an interview in another language.

Thinny 10-03-2020 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1268525)
You dont stop saying that Jon doesnt call Richie,but why dont you say that Richie dont call Jon neither?
I guess,friendhip works in both directions,not in just one.

I did say in my first post about it that freindship works both ways and that neither of them have been friends for a long time. The reason my comments were aimed at Jon is because he is the one talking about it...

I feel that the friendship was over long before Richie left the band, from both ends...

Xavi 10-03-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1268532)
I did say in my first post about it that freindship works both ways and that neither of them have been friends for a long time. The reason my comments were aimed at Jon is because he is the one talking about it...

I feel that the friendship was over long before Richie left the band, from both ends...

In that case,Im sorry,I didnt see that.

Jon is the only one who is talking about because hes promoting a new album and journalists ask him about it.
Richie dont talk about it because he is no longer a public person,he is no longer relevant in the music business and no one interview him.

And,finally,yes youre right with the friendship stuff
Richie and Jon werent close friends since before the New Jersey tour ended.
Since that,there was respect from both sides but nothing more.
If anyone see them like close friends all those years,simply is wrong

Thinny 10-03-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1268535)
Richie dont talk about it because he is no longer a public person,he is no longer relevant in the music business and no one interview him.

Actually once he has a new album out he will be back out there on the interview circuit and will of course be asked about it. He has no reason to be in the public until he has something out to promote.

The difference is that when he has been asked about it recently like when the RSO album was being released and when the Hall of Fame stuff was going on he respectfully declined to comment. Probably due to a confidentiality cause that I expect the BJ legal team would have slapped on him. Shame that doesn't work both ways....

Xavi 10-03-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1268537)
Actually once he has a new album out he will be back out there on the interview circuit and will of course be asked about it. He has no reason to be in the public until he has something out to promote.

The difference is that when he has been asked about it recently like when the RSO album was being released and when the Hall of Fame stuff was going on he respectfully declined to comment. Probably due to a confidentiality cause that I expect the BJ legal team would have slapped on him. Shame that doesn't work both ways....

Well,I remember interviews where Richie disparaged Bon Jovi,like the one where he disparaged Runaway
Richie is not a saint,he talk a lot of shit the RSO years whereas Jon was usually with his mouth closed.

Thinny 10-03-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1268539)
Well,I remember interviews where Richie disparaged Bon Jovi,like the one where he disparaged Runaway
Richie is not a saint,he talk a lot of shit the RSO years whereas Jon was usually with his mouth closed.

Saying you don't really like a song is a bit different to throwing your "brother" under the bus the way Jon did.

I never said Richie is innocent in the whole thing, but he's stuck to the story of them growing apart musically for the most part. As usual with Jon, his story has been all over the place.

Jon usually has his mouthed closed? Um..yeah right, when he has something to promote he doesn't shut up about Richie....

JackieBlue 10-03-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1268530)
Jackie, I don't have the link but that quote is the translation from an interview in another language.

Ok, thanks.

rolo_tomachi 10-03-2020 01:50 PM

They have both become idiots. But about Jon's words, to say that thanks to Richie not being in the band, they are not so lazy anymore I get hives. Seriously Jon? You're still a ****ing sloth, with or without Richie. I only agree on one thing with Jon, there isn't a single day that I don't miss Richie in this band. The Shanks era sucks.

rolo_tomachi 10-03-2020 02:04 PM

About his friendship.... reminds me of the song "La Herida" (The Wound) by Heroes del Silencio, which says the following:

It is always the same function,
The same spectator,
The same theater,
In which so many times
Acted,
To loose your mind
In a game so real
Maybe it was a mistake
Heal this wound
Please.
What's in two friends
When after all
They seem lost
And do they prefer others?
What do dull hands give,
Ignoring the given,
If once they were narrowed
Now are you deluded?
What made them walk away
From its 'restless shore',
Even for an instant
Do you think about those days?

It is always the same function,
The same spectator,
The same theater,
In which so many times
Acted,
To loose your mind
In a game so real
Maybe it was a mistake
Heal this wound
Please.
I have always preferred
A long kiss
Even though I know that you lie
Even though I know it's false.
What the hell is going on
When looks don't meet?
The cockfight
Bets are allowed.
Who looked for shelter
Somewhere else?
Is it possible that the cold
Come with the age?

It is always the same function,
The same spectator,
The same theater,
In which so many times
Acted,
To loose your mind
In a game so real
Maybe it was a mistake
Heal this wound
Please.



JackieBlue 10-03-2020 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1268547)
They have both become idiots. But about Jon's words, to say that thanks to Richie not being in the band, they are not so lazy anymore I get hives. Seriously Jon? You're still a ****ing sloth, with or without Richie. I only agree on one thing with Jon, there isn't a single day that I don't miss Richie in this band. The Shanks era sucks.

If you're referring to the quote Yovana posted above, I think you may be misinterpreting what Jon said. He didn't say they "were not so lazy anymore"; he said they "might have gotten lazy". In other words, if Richie hadn't shaken things up by leaving they might have become lazy, i.e, grown complacent.

liljovi93 10-03-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1268547)
They have both become idiots. But about Jon's words, to say that thanks to Richie not being in the band, they are not so lazy anymore I get hives. Seriously Jon? You're still a ****ing sloth, with or without Richie. I only agree on one thing with Jon, there isn't a single day that I don't miss Richie in this band. The Shanks era sucks.

You've totally missed what Jon said.

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