Haha I am VERY excited for this.

I also called exactly what was going to happen with the Experience within the first month while people went nuts and then very mad. But you're right, it's not on me to tell people not to get excited. We might get Rage of Angels and Halo!

Wonder what the reasoning for all the social media is at the moment. Tour is over. Seems like they might announce something shortly??

Another handful of dates in South America, with maybe an announcement of new music on the way??
Dunno, probably not but just going by the way they spaced out touring last time and the writing of new music months and months ago....

Someone new is absolutely running Jon and the band's social media. I agree it's weird to start it now and not, ya know, when it was time to promote the tour.

Yeah that was my thought. It really kicked in over half way through the tour. Seems odd

I think it's a South America Tour on the way

Mona Lisa !!!

Has there been any update on this?

No update.

Although this summer, Bon Jovi's official Instagram account congratulated Richie and added a photo of him from the eighties.

I wonder if this is a sign that things are better, and maybe there is some kind of participation (with Richie) in the 40th anniversary box set?


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Doc said that he was interviewed for an upcoming 4 part documentary series. Maybe this will tie in.

Jon's been oddly quiet lately. Hasn't done an interview or even performed with the KOS since the tour. However, I guess this is typical summer Jon. Hopefully an announcement for something in the fall.

Technical 40 years is "2024" to coincidence with the first box in 2004. Bon Jovi formed in 1983 but the first album was released in January 1984 so they could go in either direction if they wanted to put something out in 2023 but to keep things consistent, I'm thinking 2024 so we still have some time.

Regardless of what kind of surgery the scar on Jon's neck is really from, I'm assuming that surgery is probably why he's been kind of MIA in recent times. He's probably been taking everything a bit more easy while recovering from it.

Well Jon's been traveling all around pimping the grocery stores and liquor stores signing Hampton water bottles all around the country and maybe even abroad. So it's not like he's taking real time off recharging or resting. He's become more of a lifestyle celebrity than a Rockstar in recent years. His main interest seems to be the wine thing and real estate....

About this documentary series... I think when Jon said he was going to release the box set and several movies he was referring to this. It could be released on streaming or cable TV a month earlier, and then included in the 40th Anniversary Box Set.

I agree that technically it would be 2024, but if they're releasing this in 2023 to coincide with the formed of the band and their first hit single Runaway, I'm not going to complain.

They can perfectly launch the box set with that documentary in 2023, and in 2024 I suppose they would try to launch a ... Greatest Hits? or maybe a new album.

Because I think that releasing a new album in 2023 after all that controversy about his voice... is not a good idea. But a commemorative release remembering how good they always were, would be to channel their status a little better and fix his reputation. After, he would be in a better position to release a new album in 2024.

To all this, it's very strange that we never got a commemorative edition of SWW with all that unreleased material. You know, Game Of Heart, Lonely Is The Night... live shows from 1987... outtakes.... My hope that at least those songs unpublished are included in the box (or looking for 2026)


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I recently read several sites about a study and statistics that the CD is back. Sites like Discogs and the like are increasing their sales, etc... especially dedicated to collecting, since it is cheaper than vinyl.

I think the Box Set could take advantage if done right.

For people like me the CD never went away!

Maybe for you but for people from BJ management don't. We will get a 2 minute message from Jon on instagram where he will give thanks for 40 years of devotion of American housewives... of course he will be smiling with his ultra-white teeth for whole 2 minutes because that's the most important thing what housewives need to get. Maybe they will release third greatest hits compilation with one new song and edit version of Lay your hands on me and that will be it. The 40th anniversary of the band which has sold over 130 million records...

And hey..have you heard it? Guns N' Roses will release a 4CD+Blu-ray edition of their debut album Appetite For Destruction...... something that we will never get from Bon Jovi...

I'm so sick from all the disappointment from this band.

Appetite for destruction Box Set was released in 2018
What they have just announced is a Box Set for the Use Your Illusion albums
But,yes if you like things like those Box Sets,Bon Jovi is not your band.

Guns & Roses have released ONE new studio album since 1993. I much prefer the way BJ have done it, thank you. And the "60 all new live tracks" approach of G&R is hardly the gold standard either.

Guns N Roses box-set there is almost nothing unreleased, most of its content has already been officially released, and you only get a couple of rare songs that have been leaked for years. So it's not a big deal.

I still think that the most complete box sets are the ones Metallica released for And Justice For All (9CDs) and Black Album (11CDs).

It contains several live shows, both on audio and DVD, you also get demos, rough mixes, b-sides.

I don't think we'll ever see this on any Bon Jovi release. But it is fair to say that Bon Jovi released in 2004 a box set with 50 rarities, of which only 8 or 10 songs were released on singles.

I don't think it would be very difficult for Bon Jovi to release a box set with 50 unreleased songs, and maybe a little more.

If there is an album that deserves a super edition that is SWW since it is their best selling album. As a fan it would be great to get a super deluxe edition of all the albums, but if it didn't happen in 2010, I don't think it will ever happen. So looking at the Box Set, and maybe we'll have something more in 2024.

Couldn't agree more !

What are they really going to relase for the SWW one that isn't going to piss of the diehards though studio wise? We've already got a 5.1 mix and the Richie's basement demos have leaked long ago. Personally I think if they put out SWW again, it's a damned if you do damned if you don't from this fanbase that has that stuff already. I read a lot of flack from people about the NJ one because "we already have this" etc.

There will always be people complaining, but there will also be people loving it.

NJ Deluxe Edition 2014 had some problems for diehard fans. All the outtakes weren't there, you know what I mean, In America, Rosie and the correct version of Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore?

I don't know if they recorded more songs in the studio like Cadillac Man or We All Sleep Alone. But if they have this kind of stuff, they should have included it in that edition. Also missing a rough mixes cd. They could have skipped the DVD and instead include a never-before-released live CD.

Obie's mixing was mediocre, they need to take mixing and mastering seriously like the 2004 box set.

That would make a big difference.





I have already said it in other posts. Something like this would whet the appetite of many fans:

SWW 40th anniversary:

CD1 Original Remastered

CD2 Bonus Tracks: Game Of The Heart, Lonely Is The Night, Deep Cuts The Nife, Never Enough, Borderline, Edge Of a Broken Heart, Out Of Bounds... there are probably a few more clues that we don't know.

CD3 Rough Mixes: You Give Love A Bad Name, Prayer, Wanted, Id Die For You (Demo) or Never Say Goodbye (Richie on Vocals), Raise your Hands, Let It Rock....

CD4 Live tracks from 1986-7 or live full live show in two discs.
CD4 Live Show

If you want DVD-Bluray, they could easily add Nassau 87. They could also include the official videos as extras.

Mix and remaster all this as it deserves. They did it once with Out Of Bounds for the 2004 box set. They can do it again if someone competent does it. Pack it with love, make a 30-40 page book of promotional photos, tours, and truthful information from the recording studio.

Do the same with Keep The Faith and These Days. You will keep all the fans happy.

This is easy to do, and if this isn't worth it to the fans, then I don't know what the hell you expect.


The Box Set 40th Annyversary could be a continuation of the 2004 Box set. Add unreleased songs never heard before, at least mostly.

I totally agree that a SWW boxset like this would be really cool, but given the state of Jon's voice during the Slippery tour I think that kinda leaves the question of what kind of live material they even have in the vaults that would be suitable for an official CD/DVD/Blu-Ray release.

I can imagine that Jon himself wouldn't necessarily want to release material from shows where his voice was barely hanging on by a thread, and you also gotta take into consideration whether that kind of live material would appeal to all your potential buyers. A diehard fan might not care about the state of Jon's voice at that time and happily take any kind of 80s live material they can get their hands on, but the causals might give it a listen on Spotify & co. beforehand to see whether the boxset would be worth the money for them (considering how pricey a boxset like that would probably be) and decide that it's not because of how Jon sounds in the live material, and then you only have diehards actually buying the boxset in the end.

Maybe it would make more sense if they did 3 CDs (CD 1 - standard album, CD 2 - bonus tracks/outtakes, CD 3 - alternative takes and demos) and a DVD/Blu-Ray with Slippery When Wet - The Videos, and then additionally offered the option to purchase 12 live tracks from all across 1986/87 and a full video show digitally. That way you'll have diehards and causals buying the boxset and the diehards can also get live material.

Casuals won’t buy boxsets.


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Yup. Casuals won't spend $50+. Die hards won't spend $50+ if its filled with stuff they already have. So who is byuing retrospective stuff, no matter how well its done?

It'd have to be mega promoted to the old fans and that's something Jon would never do. And thus the cycle of this fanbase continues.

The idea that the NJ edition didn't sell because a different version of Does Anybody Really Fall In Love Anymore was included? I don't think I agree. That's a sliver of a niche pie.

It's wild, Jon doesn't want to be seen as nostalgic and doesn't want to fully promote and get into the music he currently puts out so he's stuck in this no man's land that tours 30 (if that) shows per year. Projects like this could do well if the effort was there. Let's just hope the next box set is one last kiss to the diehards, have the vibe of the 2004 release and call it a day.

Captain I don't know to what extent this Boxset will have old stuff from the 80's or 90's. But even if we only get songs from 2004-2023, I'd still be excited. The reason? Because Burning Bridges I liked, even if they had to rework some things.

Imagine a 4-disc boxset like Burning Bridges, damn, that would be fantastic for me too. But for that, they would have to choose wisely. If we get 40-50 songs, I hope they will be completely unreleased, with the exception of perhaps two or three songs, which never had an official release.




Leaving all this aside, when do you think this documentary will be released? and more importantly, when will the box set be released? I'm also curious to know what they will call the box set?



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I'm right there with you. Even if it's songs post 2000, I want the weird as hell ones that were too un-them to put out. I have enough of the same songs that sound identical, give me the Fingerprints, Who Would You Die For, Temptations, Love Ain't Nothings that show they were trying something out. I just want creativity and I'll be happy. Seems the paint by numbers stuff is what gets put on the albums so I'm gonna be thrilled if I get a handful of songs that make me appreciate his song writing again ya know?

Casuals wont buy anything.
Casuals have they Spotify account only with a playlist of their favourites songs.

Who buys CDs/Vinyls nowadays?
Its the die hards.

Let's see how the documentary works commercially. If it has some traction, this will make the 40th Anniversary Box Set a better seller.

The question is when it will be released, and if it will be done together. I have a feeling that this documentary will be included in the box, therefore the Box Set would come out after the premiere of the documentary on platforms.

It would be great if it was released in Spring 2023, and maybe an international tour in the summer?


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This :


Ronnie Wood ... Self 4 episodes, 2022
Keith Richards ... Self 4 episodes, 2022
Charlie Watts ... Self 4 episodes, 2022
Mick Jagger ... Self 4 episodes, 2022
Sienna Miller ... Narrator 2 episodes, 2022
Tina Turner ... Self 2 episodes, 2022
Jon Bon Jovi ... Self 2 episodes, 2022
Chrissie Hynde ... Self 2 episodes, 2022
Slash ... Self 2 episodes, 2022
Sheryl Crow ... Self 2 episodes, 2022

I don't think they'll make a documentary about 40 years of the band just to put it inside something only maybe 20,000 people will see. If they're smart they'll use it as a standalone to promote the history and 40 years. That being said, do they have a complelling enoug hstory to sell a documentary to the general public other then the fact that they're still around? I'm interested in seeing what selling angle they use.

When We Were Beautiful (documentary film) was broadcast on pay TV to later be included on his new album The Circle and Bluray Live At Madison Square Garden. So I can see how this will be added in that box set. Jon said that the box set will have with multiple movies or something, so I can assume he is referring to the documentary?

The question is how much time they spend on each episode and how it is divided. I guess there will be 4 parts. Each episode will focus on each decade (more or less). Perhaps the broadcast on platforms will be a more standard version of duration, and in the box set, these episodes could be more extended for fans.

It would be fantastic if Jon takes as a reference the latest Beatles documentary Get Back offering 4 Episodes of approximately 1 hour (for streaming platforms) and a version with extended footage in the Box Set. That would be ideal, since despite having seen it first in streaming, it still has additional value to obtain it in physical format to enjoy extended scenes, extra footage....


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Imagine this:

Box Set 40th Annyversary

4 cds = 50 unrreleased songs from 1983-2023 period.

4 blurays discs A four-part documentary :
Bluray nº1 = Part 1: 1983-1990 (1 hour aprox/standard cut - 75 minutes/extended cut) + Extra features: live performances from the vault, rare footages... of those years.
Bluray nº2 = PArt 2: 1991-1999 (1 hour aprox/standard cut - 75 minutes/extended cut) + Extra features: live performances from the vault, rare footages... of those years.
Bluray nº3= Part 3: 2000-2013 (1 hour aprox/standard cut - 75 minutes/extended cut) + Extra features: live performances from the vault, rare footages... of those years.
Bluray nº4 = Part 4: 2014-2023 (1 hour aprox/standard cut - 75 minutes/extended cut) + Extra features: live performances from the vault, rare footages... of those years.

Would be amazing. Maybe this sounds too ambitious, but if we are given at least:

Bluray nº1 = Documentary: 4 Episodes (1hour + some extended scenes)
Bluray nº2 = Extra Features: live performances from the vault, rare footages... of those years.

It would still be good.

Don't wanna be a poor sport, since I'm excited about a new box set as well.
But in Jovi-land, Jon's quote can very well mean they're including Access All Areas and When We Were Beautiful and there you go with multiple movies.

Damn that's true lol.

Imagine some show from the vault that could have been shot on 16mm or 35mm and is included in the Box Set.


Watch what the Guns N Roses live in New York 91 show looks like that will be included in the Use Your Illusions box set.


originally shot on 35mm
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As something apart, right? I wouldn't like to have live material among the "40 new tracks" to-be released.

And yes, this UYI BoxSet is basically the original records with a lot of live tracks, some already on the internet but with poor quality.

Yep. I am referring to a possible show on Bluray that will be included with the box set. I hope that the music we get on CDs is just unreleased studio songs.

How about the Hammersmith Odeon footage and music.
Or maybe the BBC sessions throughout the years. Would live to have those recordings in the boxset!

there are new available software that all the old tapes can be restored and fully upgraded...
Jon should invest on the bands legacy and pay the money to release some historic shows from each decade..
in fact i wonder why jon hasnt done it already...it will cost some thousands but for jon it wouldnt make him bleed..
who knows, maybe we lll get sth valuable after all

ps. the hammersmith, the holy grail, probably will never be seen

ps2. the wayne isham vault will probably have many treasures

David Bryan shares some info about their 40th anniversary plans!
Apparently we have a Tour on the way