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Captain_jovi 01-07-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviForever (Post 1277116)
I can see a lot of miming going on.
I honestly don’t know why he doesn’t call it a day touring wise! Is he that desperate for money?!

I don't know if I agree with this narrative. Jon will be paid well but so will the crew and everyone behind the scenes that hasn't worked in a long time. I'm not saying Jon's not doing this to line his pockets, I just think bigger picture the people that want this will be happy to see the band probably for one last time (but I've been saying that for five or six years now).

steel_horse75 01-08-2022 08:44 AM

Not a consecutive night on the tour. Has to be due to giving Jon’s voice a rest for nearly 48 hours.


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jovifan93 01-08-2022 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1277141)
Not a consecutive night on the tour. Has to be due to giving Jon’s voice a rest for nearly 48 hours.


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Huh? What about April 8/9 and 15/16?

steel_horse75 01-08-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1277142)
Huh? What about April 8/9 and 15/16?


Oh yeah. I was hungover while looking at this earlier in today!!


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Slick_Gilbert 01-09-2022 02:26 PM

They wrote 2 new songs like 8 months ago

James_86 01-09-2022 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1277081)
I’m going guns and foos in uk so people don’t bother me…I just have no interest in this version of band.


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Foo's and Bryan Adams for me and hopefully Kip Moore.

Said many times before, Wembley last time out is a good show to go out on.

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rolo_tomachi 01-09-2022 06:25 PM

It's a shame that Bon Jovi doesn't tour with Bryan Adams, the latter still has his voice, and I think Jon could have gone the extra mile knowing that his supporting artist is on a good level. It would also have been fun to see a jam with Adams at the encore.

facaXe 01-11-2022 12:34 PM

Oh man, I just wish they'd release a new single in February or March. But I highly doubt that'll be happening.

taker5962 02-19-2022 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1277176)
It's a shame that Bon Jovi doesn't tour with Bryan Adams, the latter still has his voice, and I think Jon could have gone the extra mile knowing that his supporting artist is on a good level. It would also have been fun to see a jam with Adams at the encore.

I really wished it was the case for Def leppard, jimly barnes or even Fogerty in the summer of 2019 but...

bonjovi90 07-25-2022 07:53 PM

Yeah that's why almost all big artists are doing massive tours in stadiums etc. right now (or have already announced them for next year like Bruce did). :rolleyes:

Supersonic 07-28-2022 02:13 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Cienapotr (Post 1282239)
And live concerts are too economically unprofitable and unsatisfactory in my opinion.

How, just how would anyone today come to this conclusion considering live concerts are the only way for artists to make money nowadays?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

blazeofglory 07-28-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cienapotr (Post 1282239)
We will have to wait for big tours of famous and popular artists and bands for a very long time. However, it seems natural and natural to me. Many musicians promote their music online, and some never give live concerts. You can even buy spotify plays that artificial intelligence will select specifically for you based on your musical preferences. I think it's very cool and incredibly cool. And live concerts are too economically unprofitable and unsatisfactory in my opinion.


What’s economically unprofitable for artists (and probably also unsatisfactory for many) is music streaming. Except for maybe the biggest streaming forces out there artists only make very little money off of Spotify & co. and with physical record sales being far from what they used to be the only way artists can really make money nowadays is by touring (and selling merch).

Streaming releases may be nice for the consumer due to instant accessibility and financial affordability, but they suck for artists who want to make money.


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Javier 07-28-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1282250)
Aloha !



How, just how would anyone today come to this conclusion considering live concerts are the only way for artists to make money nowadays?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

And even that percentage is getting smaller big new-ish acts that don't have the bargaining power of a Metallica, McCartney or Springsteen. And with ticketmasters "dynamic pricing" model, the seller and record companies are gonna be begging all legacy acts to stay on the road until they all are playing with one foot on their grave and another on the stage.

Walleris 07-29-2022 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cienapotr (Post 1282239)
We will have to wait for big tours of famous and popular artists and bands for a very long time. However, it seems natural and natural to me. Many musicians promote their music online, and some never give live concerts. You can even buy spotify plays that artificial intelligence will select specifically for you based on your musical preferences. I think it's very cool and incredibly cool. And live concerts are too economically unprofitable and unsatisfactory in my opinion.

The words and sentences people use to try sound smart when making points that are factually wrong.

Nige 07-29-2022 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cienapotr (Post 1282239)
We will have to wait for big tours of famous and popular artists and bands for a very long time. However, it seems natural and natural to me. Many musicians promote their music online, and some never give live concerts. You can even buy spotify plays that artificial intelligence will select specifically for you based on your musical preferences. I think it's very cool and incredibly cool. And live concerts are too economically unprofitable and unsatisfactory in my opinion.

This is definitely spam/advertisement.

Alphavictim 07-29-2022 09:08 PM

Gotta love people arguing with spam bots :D

Litneg 11-09-2022 02:41 PM

It's. Happening.

Bon Jovi and Richie are talking about reunion next year, during Glastonbury event!

https://twitter.com/bonjovibr/status...Ad4jh_TBQ&s=19

Nige 11-09-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1283177)
It's. Happening.

Bon Jovi and Richie are talking about reunion next year, during Glastonbury event!

https://twitter.com/bonjovibr/status...Ad4jh_TBQ&s=19

I'll eat my hat if this happens. I'm calling BS.

Thinny 11-09-2022 03:15 PM

I don't think they will play Glasto, but Richie saying that they have been talking is just another clue that something is going to happen next year. I think it will.

nikos greece 11-09-2022 03:55 PM

Bring It on Mutha ****as!!!!:D

blazeofglory 11-09-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1283180)
I don't think they will play Glasto, but Richie saying that they have been talking is just another clue that something is going to happen next year. I think it will.

I agree, definitely seems like a clue that something is gonna happen, even if that something isn't actually Glastonbury.

Thierry 11-09-2022 04:20 PM

Richie's going to tour with them next year I guess. I hope they'll hang it up after that.

And I hope Bobby will be back as well.

Phil and Shanks need to go.

Captain_jovi 11-09-2022 05:08 PM

Personally I think it's going to happen and this is the end of the line. Sad but it's time.

DryCounty 11-09-2022 05:22 PM

Obviously something is cooking. It was just a matter of time until Richie missed the big stages. It will for obvious reasons be nice to see Jon and Richie back together but I find it hard to be excited for anything Bon Jovi-touring wise knowing how Jon will butcher anything they attempt.
But if they decide to do one last tour it’s of course a no-brainer that Richie shall be there.

Captain_jovi 11-09-2022 05:53 PM

I don't think of it as Richie missing the big stage so much as everyone saying goodbye to the whole thing. If dude wanted to play big festivals, he could.

This feels like a really nice wrap up of everything. Could also mean why Richie's album stalled again. The conspiracy theorist in me is wondering why Phil is on the road if he's on the band's payroll but he might not be and just wants to keep earning when not with the band. I guess at 30 shows per year with Bon Jovi it may not be the must lucrative pay.

angelsambo 11-09-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1283188)
I ....The conspiracy theorist in me is wondering why Phil is on the road if he's on the band's payroll but he might not be and just wants to keep earning when not with the band. I guess at 30 shows per year with Bon Jovi it may not be the must lucrative pay.

maybe he enjoys playing music live

jovifan85 11-09-2022 06:51 PM

So Richie Sambora, is hinting at appearing at a Big Concert Venue? So is he selecting his appearances? (Madison Square Garden, New Jersey, Wembley etc) and not doing a full 40th Anniversary Tour? Opening and Closing Tour as well?

Sad if he was....As fans would like to see him, if this is Bon Jovi's last tour....Or until Richie Sambora is back for the farewell Tour.

Captain_jovi 11-09-2022 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan85 (Post 1283191)
So Richie Sambora, is hinting at appearing at a Big Concert Venue? So is he selecting his appearances? (Madison Square Garden, New Jersey, Wembley etc) and not doing a full 40th Anniversary Tour? Opening and Closing Tour as well?

Sad if he was....As fans would like to see him, if this is Bon Jovi's last tour....Or until Richie Sambora is back for the farewell Tour.

I can't find any trace of Richie bringing up the show specifically, just that it's a possibility and they're talking. Was he asked specifically about that festival or did he bring it up? Has anyone seen a full quote?

jovifan85 11-09-2022 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1283192)
I can't find any trace of Richie bringing up the show specifically, just that it's a possibility and they're talking. Was he asked specifically about that festival or did he bring it up? Has anyone seen a full quote?

Sorry, I was thinking that he could attend these venues, as Richie or the journalist mentioned Glastonbury.....

https://metro.co.uk/2022/11/09/glast...line-17725982/

rolo_tomachi 11-09-2022 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1283185)
Richie's going to tour with them next year I guess. I hope they'll hang it up after that.

And I hope Bobby will be back as well.

Phil and Shanks need to go.

I would go even further, take only 5 musicians on stage like in the old days. Jon, Richie, David, Tico and Hugh. It's not going to happen, but if it did, it would be my fav lineup.

Santa Fe 11-09-2022 08:36 PM

So is an European tour coming?:)

DryCounty 11-09-2022 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1283185)
Richie's going to tour with them next year I guess. I hope they'll hang it up after that.

And I hope Bobby will be back as well.

Phil and Shanks need to go.

Agree! As crazy as it sounds I’d go with Bobby as the touring back up guitarist any day. I do miss the 2010-11 lineup!

richiefan95 11-09-2022 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DryCounty (Post 1283197)
Agree! As crazy as it sounds I’d go with Bobby as the touring back up guitarist any day. I do miss the 2010-11 lineup!

It would be great if they bring Bobby back. And I hope they do the same stage arrangement they had when Richie was in the band. Only Richie and Jon should be on the front of the stage. If PhilX and Shanks are also there they should be placed without an microphone behind the percussion or somewhere where they can't be seen.

Captain_jovi 11-09-2022 10:00 PM

The way people romanticize the Bobby era is wild considering how he was talked about back then.

nikos greece 11-09-2022 10:34 PM

i hope the guys prepare big and good things coming...
If Richie comes back i ll be happy... i know it must be difficult and many things must work out but if both jon and rich want it to work it will in the end..
1. i wonder if jons silence and absence from any performance is deliberate or not..
2. if there is a comeback i guess it means there will probably be at least a new single together...
3. Richie just left a hint there is communication, as far as i ve read everywhere the reporter asked about glasto...
4. Phil x mentioned about a year ago that reunion tours bring big money so he felt that it will happen at some point...maybe that was the time there was some first communication again and x commented in that , i am probably over reaching though...
5. i think jon realises many things are in stake in the next exposure of the band and i hope he will try to go full force... i hope there is sth left in his voice

Thinny 11-09-2022 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by richiefan95 (Post 1283198)
If PhilX and Shanks are also there they should be placed without an microphone behind the percussion or somewhere where they can't be seen.

Can you imagine that conversation. "Hey Phil, Richie's coming back, you need to hide behind the percussion on the next tour, and please don't sing". :mrgreen:

Honestly, after being in the band for so long I think that's pretty disrepectful. I think Shanks should gracefully step down and Phil can take Shanks place, without the need to hide on stage.

rolo_tomachi 11-09-2022 11:30 PM

If Jon brings Richie back, no matter what the lineup is, it'll be fine.

Captain_jovi 11-09-2022 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1283202)
Can you imagine that conversation. "Hey Phil, Richie's coming back, you need to hide behind the percussion on the next tour, and please don't sing". :mrgreen:

Honestly, after being in the band for so long I think that's pretty disrepectful. I think Shanks should gracefully step down and Phil can take Shanks place, without the need to hide on stage.

Yup this. Bobby has no place in being there as far as band loyalty goes. It's going to be either Phil or Shanks, and I'm leaning towards Phil sticking around for the final run. I don't know/think Richie has any bad blood with Shanks but given how WAN went down, I don't see him being around.

I could see Everett staying and I'm all for an extra backing vocal. Even with Richie back, they still need strong backing vocals and Jon and Richie's vocals have dropped since the band was a five piece. That's just MY take on it though.

Javier 11-10-2022 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1283190)
maybe he enjoys playing music live

And his contributions to Bon Jovi are so miniscule that for someone who's a creative he must ache to have more outlets to express himself and play. I'd rather that outlet be the drills but, I guess he's earning pretty well on Kurt Deimers payroll and with the drills he'd be footing the bill himself which he may not be able to risk right now so more power to Phil, even if that "talk rock" thing Deimer does bores me to tears!!

Everett has to be on the tour though, Jon can't sing properly anymore and Richie hasn't been able to play guitar and sing at the same time since 2012....

steel_horse75 11-10-2022 08:46 AM

phils a hired gun. he knows the deal. if richie comes back he will likely be asked to step down (him or shanks).

i dont see playing Glasto as its not their crowd. most of them couldnt care less richie is back and probably didnt know he had even left.

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