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Originally Posted by Rdkopper
(Post 1249802)
Who gives a shit what his EXACT words were? ... That wasn't even the point of discussion. The point of the discussion was, someone ripped on Jon for calling Richie out all of a sudden in 2018 and BonJovi90 proved from an article that Jon's been saying it since 2016 (at the very least).
That's all there is to it. You're taking this into a completely unnecessary direction.
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I don't know what discussion
you've been having, but Jon's and David's choice of words is
exactly what I've been debating all along. (Remember the whole "habits" is another word for "addictions" discussion?)
I also don't know who "ripped on Jon" for saying anything "all of a sudden", but it sure as hell wasn't me. I'm the one who's been saying (over and over) that I don't see why Jon is still yakking about Richie because he's
not telling us anything
different than what he told us in 2016. It's true that the
message has been the same because the
only thing that changes is the euphemism he uses.
Another thing that
hasn't changed since 2016 is that, afaik, neither Jon nor David has
directly linked Richie's addictions with
why he didn't show up, in a way that doesn't require interpretation - no matter how little intelligence it takes to reach the conclusion they want people to reach.
Just to be clear, this has nothing to do with whether or not Richie's using now, or was using from 2014 til now, or what shape he was in from 2007 through 2011, or why he isn't with the band now, or if he'll be with BJ in the future.
None of that has anything to do with the question that David and Jon are supposedly answering with all their repeated implications, which is "why didn't Richie show up?"
And since 2016,
my question hasn't changed: If it's true that Richie
didn't show up in Calgary because of his addictions, then why won't David or Jon say
that in terms that can't also refer to something else?