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Alphavictim 03-01-2021 06:04 PM

I mean, it is the record that saw Richie co-write a lot more than on the debut.

Good album, but it always sounded more like Survivor than like the Bon Jovi of later. Good songs on that one none the less.

bonjovi90 03-01-2021 06:17 PM

It was an album that got totally killed by its production which made it sound dated within a minute. Musically, it was a nice one, but I always rather listened to some live recordings from that era than the album itself. With Fairbairn's production, it could've sounded a lot better.

Alphavictim 03-01-2021 06:23 PM

The pro-shot show from Japan is a great one!

YOVANAfromPeru 03-02-2021 04:06 AM

Jon and Richie have always talked about since Slippery being more a band, starting with the albums' covers (no JBJ's face anymore).
Richie's songwriting:
Bon Jovi 4/9
7800° 5/10
Slippery 9/10
New Jersey 11/12

Alphavictim 03-02-2021 04:44 AM

Richie co-wrote 6/10 on 7800°.

YOVANAfromPeru 03-02-2021 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1272741)
Richie co-wrote 6/10 on 7800°.

Vinyl: 5 of 10 / ASCAP: 6 of 10
01 In And Out Of Love (Jon Bon Jovi) / BONGIOVI JOHN F
02 The Price Of Love (Jon Bon Jovi) / BONGIOVI JOHN F
03 Only Lonely (Jon Bon Jovi) / BONGIOVI JOHN F and BRYAN DAVID
04 King Of The Mountain (Jon Bon Jovi-David Bryan) / BONGIOVI JOHN F and SAMBORA RICHARD S
05 Silent Night (Jon Bon Jovi) / BONGIOVI JOHN F
06 Tokyo Road (Jon Bon Jovi-Richie Sambora) / BONGIOVI JOHN F and SAMBORA RICHARD S
07 The Hardest Part Is The Night (Jon Bon Jovi-David Bryan-Richie Sambora) / BONGIOVI JOHN F, BRYAN DAVID and SAMBORA RICHARD S
08 Always Run To You (Jon Bon Jovi-Richie Sambora) / BONGIOVI JOHN F and SAMBORA RICHARD S
09 To The Fire (Jon Bon Jovi-David Bryan-Richie Sambora) / BONGIOVI JOHN F, BRYAN DAVID and SAMBORA RICHARD S
10 Secret Dreams (Jon Bon Jovi-Richie Sambora-Tico Torres-Bill Grabowski) / BONGIOVI JOHN F, GRABOWSKI WILLIAM G, SAMBORA RICHARD S and TORRES HECTOR SAMUEL
btw Happy Birthday Jon Bon Jovi!!!

Captain_jovi 03-02-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1272742)
Vinyl: 5 of 10 / ASCAP: 6 of 10
01 In And Out Of Love (Jon Bon Jovi) / BONGIOVI JOHN F
02 The Price Of Love (Jon Bon Jovi) / BONGIOVI JOHN F
03 Only Lonely (Jon Bon Jovi) / BONGIOVI JOHN F and BRYAN DAVID
04 King Of The Mountain (Jon Bon Jovi-David Bryan) / BONGIOVI JOHN F and SAMBORA RICHARD S
05 Silent Night (Jon Bon Jovi) / BONGIOVI JOHN F
06 Tokyo Road (Jon Bon Jovi-Richie Sambora) / BONGIOVI JOHN F and SAMBORA RICHARD S
07 The Hardest Part Is The Night (Jon Bon Jovi-David Bryan-Richie Sambora) / BONGIOVI JOHN F, BRYAN DAVID and SAMBORA RICHARD S
08 Always Run To You (Jon Bon Jovi-Richie Sambora) / BONGIOVI JOHN F and SAMBORA RICHARD S
09 To The Fire (Jon Bon Jovi-David Bryan-Richie Sambora) / BONGIOVI JOHN F, BRYAN DAVID and SAMBORA RICHARD S
10 Secret Dreams (Jon Bon Jovi-Richie Sambora-Tico Torres-Bill Grabowski) / BONGIOVI JOHN F, GRABOWSKI WILLIAM G, SAMBORA RICHARD S and TORRES HECTOR SAMUEL
btw Happy Birthday Jon Bon Jovi!!!

Why is the vinyl only 5?

YOVANAfromPeru 03-03-2021 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272747)
Why is the vinyl only 5?

Maybe a typing error on the vinyl, from the Vinyl box set on King Of The Mountain and Only Lonely.

Thinny 03-03-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1272748)
Maybe a typing error on the vinyl, from the Vinyl box set on King Of The Mountain and Only Lonely.

The original Vinyl release lists
Only Lonley (J. Bon Jovi/D.Bryan)
King Of The Mountain (J. Bon Jovi/R. Sambora)

YOVANAfromPeru 03-08-2021 05:22 AM

https://translate.google.com/transla...-moze-sve.html
This article says Richie was with his personal secretary (cheating on Heather).
And Denise says: I am a grown woman, I know what I did and what the consequences are. I understand why the public thinks I’m a horrible person who stole someone’s husband, but I know I didn’t break up their marriage. If Richie or I had felt how our marriages could be improved, we would not have crossed that line. After all, he brought a feeling of happiness to my home that hadn’t been there for a long time and I definitely fell in love with him.
She explained the sudden romance that lasted for about five years. The couple had a nasty quarrel in Nashville in 2012, and the staff of the Hermitage Hotel claimed that the quarrel could be heard by absolutely everyone. The cause of the quarrel was allegedly Sheen because Sambora thought Denise and he were too close and asked her to end all relations with the ex.
Denise: Richie and I shared everything. We could be open and honest with each other without pretending and judging. I don’t regret being in a relationship during which I learned some difficult lessons. I may be sad, but he is a wonderful man and he came into my life just when I needed him, and he needed me too.

richiefan95 03-08-2021 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1272781)
The cause of the quarrel was allegedly Sheen because Sambora thought Denise and he were too close and asked her to end all relations with the ex.

Richie said on Howard Stern in 2012 that that was completely false because he and Sheen are good friends.

Faceman 03-09-2021 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by richiefan95 (Post 1272788)
Richie said on Howard Stern in 2012 that that was completely false because he and Sheen are good friends.

Well, not saying he's not telling the truth here.
But in early 2006, when reports started about Heather having filed for divorce, Richie gave a radio interview saying it's completely untrue as well.
So when it comes to personal matters like this, I don't believe too much in those statements.

richiefan95 03-09-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1272790)
Well, not saying he's not telling the truth here.
But in early 2006, when reports started about Heather having filed for divorce, Richie gave a radio interview saying it's completely untrue as well.
So when it comes to personal matters like this, I don't believe too much in those statements.

I fully agree. Everyone says what suits their story best. Nobody knows what is true.
But in 2012 after Sheens breakdown Richie could have easily said that Sheen played a part.
I just replied because in this case I see the possibility that the statement from Richie in 2012 could maybe be true considering how the media was against Sheen and Richie didn't had anything to gain from saying that Sheen played no part.

JackieBlue 03-10-2021 03:47 PM

Just got this link from a friend. A new release, coming Friday, featuring Richie on guitar.

https://www.rockandbluesmuse.com/202...ke-its-gospel/

(Waiting now for people to say his guitar sounds drunk...) :D

Butters 03-10-2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1272801)
Just got this link from a friend. A new release, coming Friday, featuring Richie on guitar.

https://www.rockandbluesmuse.com/202...ke-its-gospel/

(Waiting now for people to say his guitar sounds drunk...) :D

I was just about the say. Locked.

steel_horse75 03-12-2021 08:35 AM

It’s amazing how little Richie has released since 2013. Nearly 8 years since he left and only really has the dreadful RSO to his name.


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Walleris 03-12-2021 09:34 AM

I thought the song is quite good. Too bad Richie's not singing any backup.

Thinny 03-12-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1272804)
It’s amazing how little Richie has released since 2013. Nearly 8 years since he left and only really has the dreadful RSO to his name.

I agree it's dissapointing, but it also make sense. He clearly wanted to slow down, rather than doing constant album/tour cycles. So I guess he's just doing what he wants now, when he wants. At his age he doesn't really need to worry about anything else.

Walleris 03-12-2021 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1272806)
I agree it's dissapointing, but it also make sense. He clearly wanted to slow down, rather than doing constant album/tour cycles. So I guess he's just doing what he wants now, when he wants. At his age he doesn't really need to worry about anything else.

He also sold his entire catalogue (and all his future royalties) to an investment fund in exchange for a massive lump sum. He has checked out and I don't blame him.

Thinny 03-12-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1272808)
He also sold his entire catalogue (and all his future royalties) to an investment fund in exchange for a massive lump sum. He has checked out and I don't blame him.

To be fair, lots of artists are doing this now. It doesn't really mean that they have checked out. It's just a way to make money from their songs, in an industry that doesn't really support that anymore thanks to streaming.

YOVANAfromPeru 03-13-2021 11:18 AM

Jon on Richie: “I miss him daily”
https://translate.google.com/transla...-quer-ser-avo/

JackieBlue 03-13-2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1272820)
Jon on Richie: “I miss him daily”
https://translate.google.com/transla...-quer-ser-avo/

"Perhaps the only thing missing from Bon Jovi's life is to make peace with Richie Sambora, a former guitarist in his band, who he has not seen for five years..."

That's strange; I'd swear I saw them singing together less than 3 years ago. :D

Walleris 03-13-2021 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1272810)
To be fair, lots of artists are doing this now. It doesn't really mean that they have checked out. It's just a way to make money from their songs, in an industry that doesn't really support that anymore thanks to streaming.


Predominantly older artists who have... checked out. Again, not blaming them at all, they all have earned it.

The numbers will probably make sense to those funds to where they could generate a return on investment, but it will take a lot years of increasing streaming adoption that will not yield an immediate reward to these artists.

Thinny 03-13-2021 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1272827)
Predominantly older artists who have... checked out. Again, not blaming them at all, they all have earned it.

The numbers will probably make sense to those funds to where they could generate a return on investment, but it will take a lot years of increasing streaming adoption that will not yield an immediate reward to these artists.

The Killers and Imagine Dragons are not about to check out anytime soon. It's all about making the most revenue out of what you have. The massive upfront payments gives the bands a lot of freedom, and in some cases even finances future products - rather than throwing their own money away on recording albums that don't sell. (See RSO...). Sure the Dylan's and the Manilow's are looking at the end of their careers, and to some extent so is Richie, but I don't see him bowing out completely, just making music for the love of making music, when we wants to, rather than making him money...

Captain_jovi 03-13-2021 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1272828)
The Killers and Imagine Dragons are not about to check out anytime soon. It's all about making the most revenue out of what you have. The massive upfront payments gives the bands a lot of freedom, and in some cases even finances future products - rather than throwing their own money away on recording albums that don't sell. (See RSO...). Sure the Dylan's and the Manilow's are looking at the end of their careers, and to some extent so is Richie, but I don't see him bowing out completely, just making music for the love of making music, when we wants to, rather than making him money...

Sure but I think there's a world of difference between The Killers and Imagine Dragons and an artist like Richie. These are
two artists who can still make the majority of their income from touring heavily and the older acts . Dylan too. I'm not saying Richie's checked out, I think he still has that fire and something he wants to say but from what I recall even him saying, his tours just about break even.

I'd love to see him give it an actual go, get a rehearsed band together. In an alternate reality had he left BJ on good terms, kept the Aftermath promo going and built that up I'd of been thrilled.

Thinny 03-13-2021 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272829)
Sure but I think there's a world of difference between The Killers and Imagine Dragons and an artist like Richie. These are
two artists who can still make the majority of their income from touring heavily and the older acts . Dylan too.

Oh yes, I agree completely. not comparing them to Richie, merely pointing out that a lot of artists taking this deal are not necceserily checking out

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272829)
I'm not saying Richie's checked out, I think he still has that fire and something he wants to say but from what I recall even him saying, his tours just about break even.

Hence the reason an offer like the sale of his back catalogue of songs is great for someone like Richie. The money can fund him for years to come.

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272829)
I'd love to see him give it an actual go, get a rehearsed band together. In an alternate reality had he left BJ on good terms, kept the Aftermath promo going and built that up I'd of been thrilled.

I just don't think he has the desire to really invest the majority of his time in it anymore. He'd rather just tour when he feels like it and record when he wants.

Rdkopper 03-13-2021 11:12 PM

Richie has been out of Bon Jovi for 7 years now which could be a lifetime for some bands. That's like the Destination Anywhere tour to Have A Nice Day...

Someone posted that his story checks out for leaving Bon Jovi in regards to the extremely limited amount of music he released however within that time, he has also teased a lot of stuff from all sorts of music to artistic compilations.

RSO was a huge mistake. He should have released a solo album under his name that featured her as a guitarist with limited vocals. It seemed like he was moving forward with his own solo album until he revamped it. I wonder what happened to all those songs??

Now hes been teasing this newest project and for a while it seemed like we were going to hear something but again, it all just disappears.

I get Covid put a delay on things but to get nothing is a bit unusual.

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Captain_jovi 03-14-2021 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1272830)
Oh yes, I agree completely. not comparing them to Richie, merely pointing out that a lot of artists taking this deal are not necceserily checking out



Hence the reason an offer like the sale of his back catalogue of songs is great for someone like Richie. The money can fund him for years to come.



I just don't think he has the desire to really invest the majority of his time in it anymore. He'd rather just tour when he feels like it and record when he wants.

I think I misunderstood your original point, got it. Yeah I agree.

YOVANAfromPeru 03-14-2021 05:52 AM


Thinny 03-14-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1272831)
Someone posted that his story checks out for leaving Bon Jovi in regards to the extremely limited amount of music he released however within that time, he has also teased a lot of stuff from all sorts of music to artistic compilations.

Must of missed something here? What do you mean by Artistic Compilations?
There was talk of an EP following Aftermath but that was before he left Bon Jovi I think, could have been shortly after?

I do remember about 15-20 years ago he said he was releasing a compilation of his solo stuff through a company called Edel Records, but nothing ever came of that.

I only really remember him really talking about the RSO record and the forthcoming solo album? What else has he teased?

I do believe that the relative commercial failiure of Aftermath kinda destroyed his hopes of really building anything majorly successful as a solo artist. I think that is one of the reasons he decided on the RSO project - maybe a joint venture would get more exposure, but the whole thing was executed so poorly it never stood a chance. I think following that he's just decided it's just not worth it. He's had his success with Bon Jovi, made more money than most of us could ever dream of. That's enough, time to just enjoy life however he sees fit. As long as we get the occasional new music from him and he doesn't just stop recording, playing, singing and writing completely, I'll take that...

Thinny 03-14-2021 10:46 AM

Haven't got time to listen to all of this right now. What is the relevance to Richie in this interview please?

steel_horse75 03-14-2021 11:21 AM

Richie Sambora!!!
 
It’s been 8 years and I don’t think Richie could even fill Shepherd’s Bush empire now.
Solo projects are very rarely received as well as the band they play ins music unless you’re the main face of the band.
Jon carries the Bon Jovi name so his solo projects were well received without setting the world alight. Although,Blaze did very well I’m not sure how well DA did sales wise.
I think when you do a solo album it’s more just to get out of the bands bubble and work with other people. You probably don’t really care about sales.


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Thinny 03-14-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1272837)
It’s been 8 years and I don’t think Richie could even fill Shepherd’s Bush empire now.

Time will tell, but I think he could still sell out The Empire in a heartbeat. In 2012 he sold it out in a few hours, and the loyal Richie followers are still there. The Bad Company tour was 4-5 years ago now I think (already!?) and there was a good portion of Richie fans in attendance on the 3 nights that I went to, so I don't think he'd have a problem with 2,000 capacity venues in the UK such as The Empire. Can't speak for other countries.

Captain_jovi 03-14-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1272838)
Time will tell, but I think he could still sell out The Empire in a heartbeat. In 2012 he sold it out in a few hours, and the loyal Richie followers are still there. The Bad Company tour was 4-5 years ago now I think (already!?) and there was a good portion of Richie fans in attendance on the 3 nights that I went to, so I don't think he'd have a problem with 2,000 capacity venues in the UK such as The Empire. Can't speak for other countries.

How did the 2014 run do in your area? I'm trying to think back of how much RSO toured. I know they did the Australia run but with Orianthi there, that's a much easier sell. Did they do the UK on their own around there?

Thinny 03-14-2021 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272842)
How did the 2014 run do in your area? I'm trying to think back of how much RSO toured. I know they did the Australia run but with Orianthi there, that's a much easier sell. Did they do the UK on their own around there?

As far as I can remember they did The Calling Festival (they had a great turn out for that) and then headlined one night at O2 Islington Academy, which sold out instantly - I couldn't get tickets (only holds 800). Then they did Download Festival, so it's hard to judge really.

Edit: I was thinking that they were being billed as RSO at this point, but I forgot that these shows were still being promoted as "Richie Sambora" and were seen as something of a second leg for the Aftermath tour, but with Ori on guitar. The set still included quite a few numbers from that album. Ori doesn't really have much of a following over here, so I can't imagine that her being added would really have added much in numbers to the tickets.

Thinny 03-16-2021 06:31 PM

Another couple of interesting Richie finds today! Both up for auction.

In 1988, Richie Sambora agreed to record the song 'Daddy's Side of the Bed' with country vocalist Lucy Clark. The song was never released and remains an obscure recording from Richie's lengthy career.

Featured here is lot that includes a 7-inch reel with 1/4 inch tape for 'Daddy's Side of the Bed', two cassette tapes with a demo version of this song, as well as an 8 x 10-inch color photo of Lucy Clark and Richie Sambora. The 7-inch reel box also contains a rejection letter from Capitol / EMI in Nashville, confirming Richie's involvement with this song:

https://www.backstageauctions.com/ca...ot/ai/0/35477/

Offered here is a stunning pair of two master recordings of a late 1980s Richie Sambora song titled 'Runnin' Wild Child'. This song never appeared on any of his three solo albums, but it was used in 2007 on the 'Songs For The Soldier' album by Richie's good friend Lance Larson. Richie also appears on that 2007 edition of the song.

These are 10 1/2 inch reels with 2-inch tape. Please note that these recordings are strictly offered as a collectible. The purchase of them does not include, transfer, set over or convey any rights of any kind.

https://www.backstageauctions.com/ca...ls/ai/0/35476/

They also have a bunch of Jovi awards and memorabilia, but nothing too interesting.

Captain_jovi 03-16-2021 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1272844)
As far as I can remember they did The Calling Festival (they had a great turn out for that) and then headlined one night at O2 Islington Academy, which sold out instantly - I couldn't get tickets (only holds 800). Then they did Download Festival, so it's hard to judge really.

Edit: I was thinking that they were being billed as RSO at this point, but I forgot that these shows were still being promoted as "Richie Sambora" and were seen as something of a second leg for the Aftermath tour, but with Ori on guitar. The set still included quite a few numbers from that album. Ori doesn't really have much of a following over here, so I can't imagine that her being added would really have added much in numbers to the tickets.

Yeah if I recall there was a brief period of overlap where both Ori and Luke were in the band.

Thinny 03-16-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272868)
Yeah if I recall there was a brief period of overlap where both Ori and Luke were in the band.

Yes they were both certainly there at Hyde Park (Hard Rock Calling Fest)

QUceK1WV8 03-16-2021 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1272831)
RSO was a huge mistake. He should have released a solo album under his name that featured her as a guitarist with limited vocals.

Yes it was, wasn't it? And I know you said so from the start. So did Steel horse quoted below. Not only to Richie, as like you said he seemed to scrap his solo album for it. Surely it could not have done any worse that RSO? Or be any worse. But I will go further and I think the whole musical collaboration between the two was and still is and forever will be a mistake. They just don't mix.

And quite frankly, and I know I am being mean here, but she is a never was by now. If Richie wants to hang out with a hot guitar playing girl he can do better. She can play there's no denying that but what's the point? He can play too or at least he used to be good. A few months sober and I am sure he is as good as ever, if he were to choose so. He doesn't need a gun slinger.

But on the topic of hot guitar playing blondes, Lindsay Ell just broke up with his boyfriend, Richie. Just saying.. :P /Ok, I will stop being mean and evil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1272835)
I do believe that the relative commercial failiure of Aftermath kinda destroyed his hopes of really building anything majorly successful as a solo artist. I think that is one of the reasons he decided on the RSO project - maybe a joint venture would get more exposure, but the whole thing was executed so poorly it never stood a chance. I think following that he's just decided it's just not worth it. He's had his success with Bon Jovi, made more money than most of us could ever dream of. That's enough, time to just enjoy life however he sees fit. As long as we get the occasional new music from him and he doesn't just stop recording, playing, singing and writing completely, I'll take that...

Pretty much my thoughts exactly, except the detail that I think that Richie was thinking with something other than his brain when he decided on RSO. And also like many people pointed out at the time it was doomed from the beginning. Not only were they two lead guitars but their voices just do not mix, at all. But I wanted to hope against hope.

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1272837)
I think when you do a solo album it’s more just to get out of the bands bubble and work with other people. You probably don’t really care about sales.

I think this is true for most artists and I am almost completely certain this is the case with Richie. He has made his money. On the other hand especially during the worst times of RSO I also felt that he was in need of something to brush up his ego as a rocker. Unfortunately the reality was that it was not that seldom that Richie Sambora feat. Orianthi or RSO ended up in a mess on stage that Orianthi tried to salvage as best she could. It was just so unprofessional and all over the place.

What if they had just had a relationship? Go on a tour together even, with Richie headlining and Orianthi as a supporting act? Why did they have to mess it up for almost ten years? And now I can't follow either of them on social media, because I fear that any day now they will tell us there will be more of RSO coming up.

Why why whine whine :( :(

Captain Walrus 03-16-2021 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1272869)
Yes they were both certainly there at Hyde Park (Hard Rock Calling Fest)

Just jumping in with some pedantry, the 2014 Calling Festival was in Clapham Common rather than Hyde Park :D

I remember Richie's performance as being very medium, but then I was already drunk by that point!


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