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Sissy3 05-29-2013 09:32 PM

And we're right back to square one and "personal problems."

Crushgen24/88 05-29-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackster73 (Post 1134902)
That would be the these days album. There is no song or album since that has stretched him.

I disagree. There's stuff up to HAND that there's no way Jon could hit live.

Crushgen24/88 05-29-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1134917)
I just translated the interview, I apologize if there're any grammar or spelling mistakes as I haven't slept for like 20 hours and I can only think about my bed.

Jon Bon Jovi: “We love Richie a lot and I trust everything will work out”

Juan Destroyer interviews the singer and frontman of the New Jersey band so he can be told about a Richie Sambora that doesn’t have the band’s doors closed and the reason of the low prices in the Madrid gig: Neither Bon Jovi or their staff are earning a dollar for playing on June, 27 at the Estadio Vicente Calderón, a gesture that honors them. As we honor the singer for knowing the numbers of unemployment in Spain.

Half an hour before the interview, the manager called me to tell me that, finally, drummer Tico Torres had a problem and would be Jon the one to answer the phone. He asks me if that bothers me, but he knows the answer. He also makes sure that I’m aware that the group isn’t charging that day and that they’re coming with the whole production. No objection, they’re being really considerate with the Spanish fans and the less we should do is echo that.

“Sorry to make you work a Saturday”, starts a Bongiovi that’s every day closer to the working class. I tell him that I don’t have any problem, as don’t interview stars like him every day.

It is true that in Madrid the band and your staff aren’t getting paid and that’s the reason the tickets were so cheap?

“Yes, it’s true. We’ve been playing around the world for like 30 years and sometimes you gotta trace the route of the tour based on the international context. So, for example, on the last one we went to countries like Greece and Croatia, but this time it isn’t possible as their economies are thrown into chaos. When I found out that the Spanish economy wasn't good either, I thought about doing a free gig in a public square, for example, but then I was told that once a public festival got out of control and there were people killed. Discarded that possibility, I agreed to do the gig in a stadium as it would give work to a lot of people. It’s a way to thank the Spanish fans for this 30 years of unconditional support. We want to show them that we’re not playing there for money, but to reaffirm that relationship that has developed between the fans and us. It’s our most sincere way to say ‘Thank you’”.

Are you only playing for free in Spain?

“Technically speaking, yes, though in other countries we’ve done what we call ‘dynamic pricing’ so the tickets wouldn’t be out of anyone’s acquisitive power. We even did that in our home, New Jersey. I guess you hear about the hurricane Sandy last year. Well, we still haven’t recovered, there’re many things to do and there is a whole lot of people affected. Consequently, we decided to donate all the earnings of the second night we’re playing at the Metlife Stadium (days 24 and 25 of July) to the Sandy victims. The place doesn’t matter, we know what’s going on around us and that’s our way to say thanks to our fans, doesn’t matter where you’re from, I’m with you”.

Are you going to bring the whole stage production, which mimics on a giant scale the chassis of a car?

“Absolutely everything. It’s the stage we’re bringing to all our stadium shows, doesn’t matter if it’s Europe, South America, Australia or Japan”.

Do you still change the setlist from gig to gig?

“Of course. There’re people that have seen us over 10 times before and that already memorized what I say between the songs, so I’d better make some changes (laughs). We do everything that’s possible so the fans can leave the show satisfied”.

What happened with Richie? Is he having drinking issues again?

“No. All I can say about it is that’s he’s facing some personal issues that he talked to us about, and there’s nothing else to say at the moment. We love him very much, I trust everything will be solved and I hope he’s ok”.

I’ve read some statements where he hints that he’s out of the band…

“I’m not going to allow this conversation to add more fuel to the gossip. No more rumors, there’s nothing else to say, all that was needed to say has already been said. He’s a great man, we love him, and nothing more”.

Phil X is filling in for him, right?

“Of course. We have a great responsibility with our fans, with our team, that needs to feed their families, and with the producers. Life goes on and I thank Phil X for making things easier for us”.

I like a lot “Amen”, the ballad of the new album “What About Now”. It is hard to sing it live?

“No, quite the opposite. I wish I were this smart back in 1987 or 1988 when I used nonsense tone changes and those acute (laughs). Now I write based on my vocal range”.

So then you don’t slow in the concerts…

“Yes, you’re right. Back then I used to compose while thinking about making the best album I could possibly make, now I think more about the concerts. ‘Amen’ fits perfectly my vocal range”.

Many fans miss your most rocker side, but that’s surely because you evolved, you’re still one of the most popular bands in the world while peer groups of the ‘80s can’t sold out a stadium anymore. It will be difficult for you to recover the essence of hair metal, right?

“Why so many labels? There’s heavy metal, hard rock, hair metal, country rock… It’s rock ‘n’ roll period. The band started at a time when a particular genre was on the top of the hill and we were immediately labeled after that. I founded the band when I was 21 years old and back then that sound came out of me naturally, but obviously, once you’re 51 you sound in a different way. If you want to stay relevant you need to evolve. Not that I’m belittling our beginning, but at the point where I find myself as a musician, I sound like this. Artists need to reflect the way they feel every moment. We decided to evolve the way you can hear in our albums”.

Is the song What’s Left of Me a reflection about what you just said?

“No, not at all, and forgive the misunderstanding, that song it’s actually about the consecueses that brings the world of the large corporations in America. After crisis started, a lot of people had to change their shows or found themselves unemployed. This song talks about a person with a lot of experience and skills that, despite all that, can’t find a job. It’s a situation that dwarfs people, that makes them feel useless, and then there isn’t much left of their former selves. Unemployment is devastating. There’s a 50% of unemployment among Spanish youth currently and 27% among the general population, right? It must be terrible to know that you can contribute to society, that you’re a handy person but the circumstances doesn’t allow you to prove it”.


Many artists claim to be on the side of the people of the streets, but the way they act doesn’t match their words. You not only express your solidarity, but have carried out actions.

“Thanks for your kind words. I’ve had social consciousness since I was really young, maybe because I’ve travelled a lot or because I’ve seen all the sides, good and bad, of the music business. Behind the actions of our foundation, of our socially conscious songs or the gig in Spain, there’re isn’t any other intention than doing what we think it’s right. Neither more nor less”.

You’re usually related to the love ballads, but now I remember that even on the lyrics of “Livin’ On A Prayer” you did the portrait of a young couple that struggled to achieve their goals.

“And if you go further back, to Runaway, that’s the story of some teenagers that spend all day in the streets doing illegal stuff for a living. I watched these boys and girls as I walked from the bus stop to the recording studio. Rock ‘n’ roll was my way of dreaming, my way to make my dreams come true and I was lucky not to have to learn to survive, I simply had to compose and play. I was luckier than those guys”.

Have you had any kind of response from Justin Bieber after you called him an asshole and urge him to learn to work?

“That was taken out of context. If you read the entire interview you will see that I emphasize on the respect to the fans, about the people that gives you two or three hours of their lives and a large sum of money to see you. The paper noted that explicit word that perhaps I shouldn’t have used. I didn’t mean to insult Justin, but ask any young artist to show respect for their fans. It’s a typical case of misrepresentation of statements by the British press, nothing more”.

Any final words for the Spanish fans?

“Hola amigos. Precio amigo. Our show, to you. We’re excited to give you all we have as a gift to the people of your country. Thank you for your friendship and support. See you next month”.


Thanks for doing the full translation.

crashed 05-29-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sissy3 (Post 1134919)
And we're right back to square one and "personal problems."

We'd never left it, I don't even think there was a square one and a half.

Sissy3 05-29-2013 09:47 PM

That's true, I guess we've been through so many scenarios, I thought we'd actually made a step or two. :D

Kriegentragen 05-29-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jessycardy (Post 1134913)
Thank you! It's always a good thing to have more people working on translations, you can be more precise. :)

The "es un grande" part confuses me as well. Could it mean something like "he's great" or am I off here?

"Grande" also means "big". Maybe he was saying Richie's big. In the same way of "Huuuuge McDonald".

ezearis 05-29-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kriegentragen (Post 1134925)
"Grande" also means "big". Maybe he was saying Richie's big. In the same way of "Huuuuge McDonald".

I don't know about Mexico, but here in Argentina we only say "Es un grande" when we're saying something like "He's a genius" or "He's great". To use it as "big" we say "Es grande".

jessycardy 05-29-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1134917)
I just translated the interview, I apologize if there're any grammar or spelling mistakes as I haven't slept for like 20 hours and I can only think about my bed.

Jon Bon Jovi: “We love Richie a lot and I trust everything will work out”

Juan Destroyer interviews the singer and frontman of the New Jersey band so he can be told about a Richie Sambora that doesn’t have the band’s doors closed and the reason of the low prices in the Madrid gig: Neither Bon Jovi or their staff are earning a dollar for playing on June, 27 at the Estadio Vicente Calderón, a gesture that honors them. As we honor the singer for knowing the numbers of unemployment in Spain.

Half an hour before the interview, the manager called me to tell me that, finally, drummer Tico Torres had a problem and would be Jon the one to answer the phone. He asks me if that bothers me, but he knows the answer. He also makes sure that I’m aware that the group isn’t charging that day and that they’re coming with the whole production. No objection, they’re being really considerate with the Spanish fans and the less we should do is echo that.

“Sorry to make you work a Saturday”, starts a Bongiovi that’s every day closer to the working class. I tell him that I don’t have any problem, as don’t interview stars like him every day.

It is true that in Madrid the band and your staff aren’t getting paid and that’s the reason the tickets were so cheap?

“Yes, it’s true. We’ve been playing around the world for like 30 years and sometimes you gotta trace the route of the tour based on the international context. So, for example, on the last one we went to countries like Greece and Croatia, but this time it isn’t possible as their economies are thrown into chaos. When I found out that the Spanish economy wasn't good either, I thought about doing a free gig in a public square, for example, but then I was told that once a public festival got out of control and there were people killed. Discarded that possibility, I agreed to do the gig in a stadium as it would give work to a lot of people. It’s a way to thank the Spanish fans for this 30 years of unconditional support. We want to show them that we’re not playing there for money, but to reaffirm that relationship that has developed between the fans and us. It’s our most sincere way to say ‘Thank you’”.

Are you only playing for free in Spain?

“Technically speaking, yes, though in other countries we’ve done what we call ‘dynamic pricing’ so the tickets wouldn’t be out of anyone’s acquisitive power. We even did that in our home, New Jersey. I guess you hear about the hurricane Sandy last year. Well, we still haven’t recovered, there’re many things to do and there is a whole lot of people affected. Consequently, we decided to donate all the earnings of the second night we’re playing at the Metlife Stadium (days 24 and 25 of July) to the Sandy victims. The place doesn’t matter, we know what’s going on around us and that’s our way to say thanks to our fans, doesn’t matter where you’re from, I’m with you”.

Are you going to bring the whole stage production, which mimics on a giant scale the chassis of a car?

“Absolutely everything. It’s the stage we’re bringing to all our stadium shows, doesn’t matter if it’s Europe, South America, Australia or Japan”.

Do you still change the setlist from gig to gig?

“Of course. There’re people that have seen us over 10 times before and that already memorized what I say between the songs, so I’d better make some changes (laughs). We do everything that’s possible so the fans can leave the show satisfied”.

What happened with Richie? Is he having drinking issues again?

“No. All I can say about it is that’s he’s facing some personal issues that he talked to us about, and there’s nothing else to say at the moment. We love him very much, I trust everything will be solved and I hope he’s ok”.

I’ve read some statements where he hints that he’s out of the band…

“I’m not going to allow this conversation to add more fuel to the gossip. No more rumors, there’s nothing else to say, all that was needed to say has already been said. He’s a great man, we love him, and nothing more”.

Phil X is filling in for him, right?

“Of course. We have a great responsibility with our fans, with our team, that needs to feed their families, and with the producers. Life goes on and I thank Phil X for making things easier for us”.

I like a lot “Amen”, the ballad of the new album “What About Now”. It is hard to sing it live?

“No, quite the opposite. I wish I were this smart back in 1987 or 1988 when I used nonsense tone changes and those acute (laughs). Now I write based on my vocal range”.

So then you don’t slow in the concerts…

“Yes, you’re right. Back then I used to compose while thinking about making the best album I could possibly make, now I think more about the concerts. ‘Amen’ fits perfectly my vocal range”.

Many fans miss your most rocker side, but that’s surely because you evolved, you’re still one of the most popular bands in the world while peer groups of the ‘80s can’t sold out a stadium anymore. It will be difficult for you to recover the essence of hair metal, right?

“Why so many labels? There’s heavy metal, hard rock, hair metal, country rock… It’s rock ‘n’ roll period. The band started at a time when a particular genre was on the top of the hill and we were immediately labeled after that. I founded the band when I was 21 years old and back then that sound came out of me naturally, but obviously, once you’re 51 you sound in a different way. If you want to stay relevant you need to evolve. Not that I’m belittling our beginning, but at the point where I find myself as a musician, I sound like this. Artists need to reflect the way they feel every moment. We decided to evolve the way you can hear in our albums”.

Is the song What’s Left of Me a reflection about what you just said?

“No, not at all, and forgive the misunderstanding, that song it’s actually about the consecueses that brings the world of the large corporations in America. After crisis started, a lot of people had to change their shows or found themselves unemployed. This song talks about a person with a lot of experience and skills that, despite all that, can’t find a job. It’s a situation that dwarfs people, that makes them feel useless, and then there isn’t much left of their former selves. Unemployment is devastating. There’s a 50% of unemployment among Spanish youth currently and 27% among the general population, right? It must be terrible to know that you can contribute to society, that you’re a handy person but the circumstances doesn’t allow you to prove it”.


Many artists claim to be on the side of the people of the streets, but the way they act doesn’t match their words. You not only express your solidarity, but have carried out actions.

“Thanks for your kind words. I’ve had social consciousness since I was really young, maybe because I’ve travelled a lot or because I’ve seen all the sides, good and bad, of the music business. Behind the actions of our foundation, of our socially conscious songs or the gig in Spain, there’re isn’t any other intention than doing what we think it’s right. Neither more nor less”.

You’re usually related to the love ballads, but now I remember that even on the lyrics of “Livin’ On A Prayer” you did the portrait of a young couple that struggled to achieve their goals.

“And if you go further back, to Runaway, that’s the story of some teenagers that spend all day in the streets doing illegal stuff for a living. I watched these boys and girls as I walked from the bus stop to the recording studio. Rock ‘n’ roll was my way of dreaming, my way to make my dreams come true and I was lucky not to have to learn to survive, I simply had to compose and play. I was luckier than those guys”.

Have you had any kind of response from Justin Bieber after you called him an asshole and urge him to learn to work?

“That was taken out of context. If you read the entire interview you will see that I emphasize on the respect to the fans, about the people that gives you two or three hours of their lives and a large sum of money to see you. The paper noted that explicit word that perhaps I shouldn’t have used. I didn’t mean to insult Justin, but ask any young artist to show respect for their fans. It’s a typical case of misrepresentation of statements by the British press, nothing more”.

Any final words for the Spanish fans?

“Hola amigos. Precio amigo. Our show, to you. We’re excited to give you all we have as a gift to the people of your country. Thank you for your friendship and support. See you next month”.


Thank you so much for doing the whole thing, pictures included! You're a pro!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon
[...]he's facing some personal issues that he talked to us about, and there's nothing else to say at the moment. We love him very much, I trust everything will be solved and I hope he's ok.

1) He talked about it with them, including Jon. That's good news, whether it happened right away or just lately.
2) I wanna frame this or something, I need the positivity. They love him and Jon trusts that everything will be solved and he hopes he's okay. Yes, this. I have hearts all around my face at the moment.

Josie2013 05-29-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1134917)

“Yes, you’re right. Back then I used to compose while thinking about making the best album I could possibly make, now I think more about the concerts. ‘Amen’ fits perfectly my vocal range”.

Many fans miss your most rocker side, but that’s surely because you evolved, you’re still one of the most popular bands in the world while peer groups of the ‘80s can’t sold out a stadium anymore. It will be difficult for you to recover the essence of hair metal, right?

“Why so many labels? There’s heavy metal, hard rock, hair metal, country rock… It’s rock ‘n’ roll period. The band started at a time when a particular genre was on the top of the hill and we were immediately labeled after that. I founded the band when I was 21 years old and back then that sound came out of me naturally, but obviously, once you’re 51 you sound in a different way. If you want to stay relevant you need to evolve. Not that I’m belittling our beginning, but at the point where I find myself as a musician, I sound like this. Artists need to reflect the way they feel every moment. We decided to evolve the way you can hear in our albums”.

Is the song What’s Left of Me a reflection about what you just said?

“No, not at all, and forgive the misunderstanding, that song it’s actually about the consecueses that brings the world of the large corporations in America. After crisis started, a lot of people had to change their shows or found themselves unemployed. This song talks about a person with a lot of experience and skills that, despite all that, can’t find a job. It’s a situation that dwarfs people, that makes them feel useless, and then there isn’t much left of their former selves. Unemployment is devastating. There’s a 50% of unemployment among Spanish youth currently and 27% among the general population, right? It must be terrible to know that you can contribute to society, that you’re a handy person but the circumstances doesn’t allow you to prove it”.

Many artists claim to be on the side of the people of the streets, but the way they act doesn’t match their words. You not only express your solidarity, but have carried out actions.

“Thanks for your kind words. I’ve had social consciousness since I was really young, maybe because I’ve travelled a lot or because I’ve seen all the sides, good and bad, of the music business. Behind the actions of our foundation, of our socially conscious songs or the gig in Spain, there’re isn’t any other intention than doing what we think it’s right. Neither more nor less”.

You’re usually related to the love ballads, but now I remember that even on the lyrics of “Livin’ On A Prayer” you did the portrait of a young couple that struggled to achieve their goals.

“And if you go further back, to Runaway, that’s the story of some teenagers that spend all day in the streets doing illegal stuff for a living. I watched these boys and girls as I walked from the bus stop to the recording studio. Rock ‘n’ roll was my way of dreaming, my way to make my dreams come true and I was lucky not to have to learn to survive, I simply had to compose and play. I was luckier than those guys”.


While it is not prudent to record a song you cannot sing live, Jon doesn't push himself at all. He could still be a pretty decent singer if he wanted to be. Also, Runaway and Livin' On A Prayer are great songs because they are stories of everyday people. His comments about social consciousness just come across as trying way to hard to be taken seriously. What is he trying to prove by quoting the unemployment rate in Spain? He is trying so hard to be something he is not and that is why it's not working. He is not a rock star, its just his day job. Really? If someone told him he would be like this 20 years ago, he would have said they were crazy.

Kriegentragen 05-29-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezearis (Post 1134926)
I don't know about Mexico, but here in Argentina we only say "Es un grande" when we're saying something like "He's a genius" or "He's great". To use it as "big" we say "Es grande".

Indeed. I have some Argentinian friends and coworkers, and I've listened both "es un grande" and "es un grosso" to widely praise someone's capabilities.

The Hugh comment was just a little joke ;)


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