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bjcrazycpa 04-29-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1125471)
Hey, people wanted honest communication. I think they have it here, it may not be what a lot of you wanted to hear, but it does seem honest. And it is indeed not smart or good pr, so he has nothing to gain by answering that tweet with an honest "I don't know". It's all up to Richie, the band is getting all the hate and have to put up with all the messages, emails, questions etc but it's really always been up to Richie....

You read my mind..was going to say the same thing!! :)

ezearis 04-29-2013 06:58 PM

I agree with Javier, I'd rather have this honest response.

peewee 04-29-2013 07:02 PM

So long Rich!

Now you're musically free to fulfill your dreams and turn into a critically acclaimed musician (well, whatever you want to turn into). Just like Dave did. **** Jon and his CEO mental jerk offs.

WillRunForChocolate 04-29-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1125470)
I'll make you a promise - if he shows up, I'll come across the pond and streak for you anyway :-)

Aaaawwww, that's so nice of you! I feel special, lol.

Crushgen24/88 04-29-2013 07:08 PM

So, what's this about hardcore nudity?

RonJovi 04-29-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88 (Post 1125477)
So, what's this about hardcore nudity?

Haha it's looking like I could make some money out of this.

I won't be posting for a while...need to get out and shed about 3 stone.

LeaJovi 04-29-2013 07:21 PM

What makes anybody think that was an honest response?

RonJovi 04-29-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LeaJovi (Post 1125482)
What makes anybody think that was an honest response?

What makes anyone think it wasn't?

LeaJovi 04-29-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RonJovi (Post 1125483)
What makes anyone think it wasn't?

His record?

RonJovi 04-29-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LeaJovi (Post 1125485)
His record?

Has he lied before?

WillRunForChocolate 04-29-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushgen24/88 (Post 1125477)
So, what's this about hardcore nudity?


Since there's been no new discussion of "Jon killed Richie's dog" or "touch the winky," we need to keep it entertaining to some degree. Either that or sink into depression.

kekko21 04-29-2013 08:43 PM

They broke my balls.

Javier 04-29-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeaJovi (Post 1125482)
What makes anybody think that was an honest response?

Its context. What makes you think a post like that is a lie?? He doesn't have an answer but he wishes he did. nobody knows what the **** is going through Richie's head and how long it will take, and even if he did know he doesn't have an answer because either he isn't aware of the situation fully or he is respecting Richie's situation to let the man speak for himself if and when he decides or wants to. Having funny conspiracies is one thing but this nitpicking is just getting ridiculous and childish, but I guess someone will bitch and moan about something no matter what gets said or done....

Captain_jovi 04-29-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1125495)
but I guess someone will bitch and moan about something no matter what gets said or done....

I cannot believe you'd stoop so low to say that. 10 day ban.

Javier 04-29-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1125496)
I cannot believe you'd stoop so low to say that. 10 day ban.

bbut but but it was the sugar high! I swear!!! :(

The Rock 04-29-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Javier (Post 1125471)
Hey, people wanted honest communication. I think they have it here, it may not be what a lot of you wanted to hear, but it does seem honest. And it is indeed not smart or good pr, so he has nothing to gain by answering that tweet with an honest "I don't know". It's all up to Richie, the band is getting all the hate and have to put up with all the messages, emails, questions etc but it's really always been up to Richie....

Exactly.

Richie needs some of these messages too. Is anyone asking him are you going to be in Europe?

Sambo-Chris 04-29-2013 09:11 PM

I asked matt and Richie bonjovi and Richie but no answer .

JerseyGiant 04-29-2013 09:46 PM

Over 200 pages! Sod it ill throw my 2 cents in. Firstly I get that people go threw "personal" issues. I first saw the band back in 2006 I was super hyped that I would finally get to see my hero sambora! But alas I got a pissed up fat Richie who could hardly stand up! Better times where ahead next time I saw the band Richie was sober and could actually string together some solos! Fast forward a few years and I'm off to see the band in Lisbon with a friend at work who has a house in Portugal (bonus) but now I'm faced with the prospect that it might be Richie free!........ **** him I'm still gonna go and enjoy the experience! (I feel bad for you Americans that have had 2 Richie free tours)

Ill still go see tico that old bastard giving it all he's got! And Dave that poddle head playing them keys like his life depends on it! And of course Jon, ill admit I've criticised the guy but all I have to do is check out a "always" performance from this tour to no the guy is giving it his everything!

So yea bring on Lisbon and bring on Phil X the guy turns Jon off his autopilot and he ain't a bad guitar player! So Richie I hope what ever you got going on you get sorted but I ain't gonna wait for ya! :)

WillRunForChocolate 04-29-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyGiant (Post 1125510)
Over 200 pages! Sod it ill throw my 2 cents in. Firstly I get that people go threw "personal" issues. I first saw the band back in 2006 I was super hyped that I would finally get to see my hero sambora! But alas I got a pissed up fat Richie who could hardly stand up! Better times where ahead next time I saw the band Richie was sober and could actually string together some solos! Fast forward a few years and I'm off to see the band in Lisbon with a friend at work who has a house in Portugal (bonus) but now I'm faced with the prospect that it might be Richie free!........ **** him I'm still gonna go and enjoy the experience! (I feel bad for you Americans that have had 2 Richie free tours)

Ill still go see tico that old bastard giving it all he's got! And Dave that poddle head playing them keys like his life depends on it! And of course Jon, ill admit I've criticised the guy but all I have to do is check out a "always" performance from this tour to no the guy is giving it his everything!

So yea bring on Lisbon and bring on Phil X the guy turns Jon off his autopilot and he ain't a bad guitar player! So Richie I hope what ever you got going on you get sorted but I ain't gonna wait for ya! :)

I admire your positive attitude!

JerseyGiant 04-29-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WillRunForChocolate (Post 1125511)
I admire your positive attitude!

It has to be done ;)

steel_horse75 04-29-2013 11:04 PM

If and I say if he has left then no one an probably say anything as there's probably lawyers involved thrashing out legal issues.

† ÀžžÀ † 04-29-2013 11:15 PM

Going on everything I've heard both on and off of this board I'm convinced Richie is out. I truly believe there are negotiations going on behind the scenes which prevent him from discussing the issue - pretty much a gagging order.

I reckon Jon intends to plough on until the end of the tour and then announce his leaving. Whether or not they carry on as a three piece (officially) I just don't know ...

That said, they may well still be talking and trying to come to some sort of compromise. Losing Richie will hit Jon very hard, however he dresses things up.

linnea.cfc32_jovibandana 04-30-2013 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75
If and I say if he has left then no one an probably say anything as there's probably lawyers involved thrashing out legal issues.


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Originally Posted by † ÀžžÀ † (Post 1125527)
Going on everything I've heard both on and off of this board I'm convinced Richie is out. I truly believe there are negotiations going on behind the scenes which prevent him from discussing the issue - pretty much a gagging order.

I reckon Jon intends to plough on until the end of the tour and then announce his leaving. Whether or not they carry on as a three piece (officially) I just don't know ...

That said, they may well still be talking and trying to come to some sort of compromise. Losing Richie will hit Jon very hard, however he dresses things up.

Yeah this is sadly what makes the most sense to me right now... :(

Captain_jovi 04-30-2013 12:24 AM

Maybe it was mentioned:

http://thedrills.com/dates.html

Did these have dates on them prior?

nrm123 04-30-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1125545)
Maybe it was mentioned:

http://thedrills.com/dates.html

Did these have dates on them prior?

a countdown timer....that goes up.

http://troll.me/images/futurama-fry/seems-legit.jpg

GabrielC 04-30-2013 01:17 AM

I would be surprised if Phil continued in Bon Jovi to play in the next record. It's just not his music style at all.

Bill23 04-30-2013 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1125550)
I would be surprised if Phil continued in Bon Jovi to play in the next record. It's just not his music style at all.

His choices would be- tour the world in sold out arenas & stadiums and make bank....1st class private jet and hotels or mess around in relative obscurity. Hmmmmmm.....not a tough decision.

DestinationJovi 04-30-2013 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1125550)
I would be surprised if Phil continued in Bon Jovi to play in the next record. It's just not his music style at all.

Are you forgetting Phil is a session musician? He'll play whatever music style the artist who hires him wants!

crashed 04-30-2013 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyGiant (Post 1125510)

So yea bring on Lisbon and bring on Phil X the guy turns Jon off his autopilot and he ain't a bad guitar player! So Richie I hope what ever you got going on you get sorted but I ain't gonna wait for ya! :)

I'm starting to think the same. Love Richie but yeah...

MrNickel 04-30-2013 01:38 AM

When Jon said Richie was still a member of the band on Ellen, do we really think he's that good of an actor, if Richie is being kicked out ??

Supersonic 04-30-2013 01:40 AM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by MrNickel (Post 1125556)
When Jon said Richie was still a member of the band on Ellen, do we really think he's that good of an actor, if Richie is being kicked out ??

What Jon is saying is: "According to the signed contracts, Richie is still a member of the band. If he wants to leave, that's up to him, I'm fine with the way the contract is set up."

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

nikos greece 04-30-2013 01:58 AM

jon said at least twice, maybe three times the word absolutely-absolutely...maybe jon didnt say the whole truth but if richie is gone and lawyers are in the middle of it then i think he would choose different phrasing...i hope richie gets back, the indications show he may is wont return but who knows...
i think even jon realises if richie leaves then preserving the b(r)and as 3 original members would make them be a joke...i admire the guy for keep going forward but i hope the band returns...or stop even in such a dissapointing note...
ps.during this huge thread i have changed my mind at least 3-4 times going back and forth richie having a health or family emergency or him simply wanting out...i guess though if there was such a big fall out with jon he wouldnt leave the band like that...there are commitments, fans, tico and david..and i still hope richie sees the band sth like his own as well and not as sth that belongs only to jon

WillRunForChocolate 04-30-2013 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill23 (Post 1125552)
His choices would be- tour the world in sold out arenas & stadiums and make bank....1st class private jet and hotels or mess around in relative obscurity. Hmmmmmm.....not a tough decision.

What he said :)

The Rock 04-30-2013 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyGiant (Post 1125510)
Over 200 pages! Sod it ill throw my 2 cents in. Firstly I get that people go threw "personal" issues. I first saw the band back in 2006 I was super hyped that I would finally get to see my hero sambora! But alas I got a pissed up fat Richie who could hardly stand up! Better times where ahead next time I saw the band Richie was sober and could actually string together some solos! Fast forward a few years and I'm off to see the band in Lisbon with a friend at work who has a house in Portugal (bonus) but now I'm faced with the prospect that it might be Richie free!........ **** him I'm still gonna go and enjoy the experience! (I feel bad for you Americans that have had 2 Richie free tours)

Ill still go see tico that old bastard giving it all he's got! And Dave that poddle head playing them keys like his life depends on it! And of course Jon, ill admit I've criticised the guy but all I have to do is check out a "always" performance from this tour to no the guy is giving it his everything!

So yea bring on Lisbon and bring on Phil X the guy turns Jon off his autopilot and he ain't a bad guitar player! So Richie I hope what ever you got going on you get sorted but I ain't gonna wait for ya! :)

My favorite post today - everyday there is another. Everyone wants Sambora, that's a given but just imagine Jon without Richie in Europe? During this leg, Jon gave 100%. We all know they have better shows in Europe and so imagine what he gives in Europe? Jon knows the crowd are not so forgiving over there and more Richie fan based, his going to go into overdrive and give killer shows. Imagine Slane, which had been a dream? His going to kill himself trying to give the crowd what they want in a Richie less show.

Speaking of Slane, wouldn't that be a dream for Richie too? I can't imagine him giving that opportunity up. His not going to achieve it as a solo artist. I think he would want to play Slane.

TheseDaysEra 04-30-2013 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1125562)
Speaking of Slane, wouldn't that be a dream for Richie too? I can't imagine him giving that opportunity up. His not going to achieve it as a solo artist. I think he would want to play Slane.

are you serious ? that man has played in fronts of millions of people for the past 30 years. I don't think he could care less if he missed just another massive outdoor venue. especially if he's really considering quitting the band (if he hasn't already)...

Irakli 04-30-2013 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Rock (Post 1125562)
My favorite post today - everyday there is another. Everyone wants Sambora, that's a given but just imagine Jon without Richie in Europe? During this leg, Jon gave 100%. We all know they have better shows in Europe and so imagine what he gives in Europe? Jon knows the crowd are not so forgiving over there and more Richie fan based, his going to go into overdrive and give killer shows. Imagine Slane, which had been a dream? His going to kill himself trying to give the crowd what they want in a Richie less show.

Speaking of Slane, wouldn't that be a dream for Richie too? I can't imagine him giving that opportunity up. His not going to achieve it as a solo artist. I think he would want to play Slane.

I don't think it really matters how great of a performance Jon gives. People that are Richie fans, like myself, don't really care because it won't be the same. The music as a whole suffers. The solos aren't the same and the vocal harmonies are gone.

GabrielC 04-30-2013 03:31 AM

Phil X is a great guy, he deserves some awesome crowds like in Europe and South America. Just learn to play I Believe and that's a deal. Also, if Richie wants to do a solo show here, he is welcome.

DestinationJovi 04-30-2013 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1125568)
Phil X is a great guy, he deserves some awesome crowds like in Europe and South America.

Phil X deserves some awesome crowds like in Europe and South America?

How about the awesome crowds in Europe and South America deserve Richie.

crashed 04-30-2013 04:11 AM

Here are my feelings.

Richie Sambora is one of my absolute heroes. Whilst he's never been the best guitar player in my eyes, he's always been my favourite. Whilst I've never liked his solo work as much as I like Jon's, Seven Years Gone is one of my top all-time tracks. I'd much rather hear him playing guitar with those guys than I would anyone else.

But if it's over, I'm not going to say I'm never going to see the band again, in whatever form it chooses. Those songs I love that Jon and Richie wrote together will still be there, as will be the great ones Jon penned himself (it was Blaze Of Glory that got me into this music...not a band song.) They won't sound quite the same without Richie on guitar - his voice on that instrument is as unique as Jon's vocals - and it's the magic of the two together that can be breathtaking, but I can only think that if he has left or does leave that it's only by his choice. Jon will not want to break up his gang. He's been too proud of it for too long. And Jon by himself, when he's the underdog, when he knows he needs to fight for something....well that's the Jon Bon Jovi that can blow the roof of a stadium.

GabrielC 04-30-2013 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1125571)
Phil X deserves some awesome crowds like in Europe and South America?

How about the awesome crowds in Europe and South America deserve Richie.

Why not both?


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