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JoviJovi 06-06-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1136443)
Fans can put the shells back in their pockets with a refund. Pretty simple stuff.

They haven't made that option available for US summer shows or the Mohegan Sun makeup show.

Of course there's always the chance Richie will be back I suppose.

Mysterytrain 06-06-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1136455)
Yes, I would agree that the communication has been pitiful, especially with all the social media outlets at hand these days. You could argue that it's the whole Jersey Syndicate way of keeping things in house but this isn't the mob.

At this stage I don't feel like bashing Richie though. Something tells me he had good reason to leave. I'll be the first to call him a dick if he left because of an argument.

If it was a mental health issue, I wouldn't be surprised; just consider all of his weird Tweets and the long silences both at the beginning of this and again now (11 days and counting). Something sounded "off" (remember 'Tip-top and smiling'?).

Unfortunately, unlike a physical health problem, mental health problems are still stigmatized and I could see where Richie would want to keep it quiet, if that's what's going on.

On the other hand, it if is indeed a clash of egos, then I would see those same Tweets (and Jon's responses in interviews) like a game of cat-and-mouse, where they are passive-aggressively calling each other out in the media, just to see who will crack first. If that's the case, then that's truly childish. If that's the case, they need to sit in a room with a mediator (like the New Jersey era) and hash it out.

ben 06-06-2013 08:34 PM

oh I'd love to see a tweet from Richie tonight like "Boo! here I am!" and then he appears in Copenhagen tonight! wouldn't that be awesome??
yeah ok I know ... "maybe I'm a dreamer but I still believe.. "

Ruggy 06-06-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1136444)
No way.

If that were the case, Jon would have come to his defense. The fact that Jon has said "You'll have to ask him", clearly indicates that Richie has a stick up his ass.

As we say in Scotland, pish!

DestinationJovi 06-06-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nrm123 (Post 1136364)

Let me end the suspense...Ava will never tweet anything about this situation, cryptic or otherwise. She will tweet like any other 15 year old does..about school, her friends, selfies, etc. Quit stalking her looking for answers. She is the daughter of two high profile celebrities. She knows better than to say anything, and quite honestly I doubt it affects her life enough to sound off on twitter about it anyway. If you're following her because you're a fan of her acting, that's one thing. But if you're following her because you're a Bon Jovi fan, that's pathetic.

Beaky 06-06-2013 10:05 PM

Just pissed off and bored with it now... everyone involved has lost my respect, my cash, my fandom and my commitment. So I am finally leaving people on here at peace!

This band used to be something f*cking special and even when their music lost it's individuality and they stopped making timeless hits and started making stuff a few of us would like for five minutes, they still kicked your ass live...

But you honestly have to have the blinkers on to think they are anything close to how they used to be and without Richie, there's no soul to it any more. I don't need to see them live to say this but I will be, one last time in just over a week at Isle of Wight. I have the lowest expectations I've ever known for a show, because it's not Bon Jovi.

'It's not Jon, It's Richie' or visa-versa... I don't subscribe to it. It's all of them. Tico, Dave, the lot of them. We're the fans and we can see how f*cked up and disjointed this sh*t is, one of Jon's 'Yes-Man' flunkies or one of the band should be telling him likewise. Richie is coming off like a self-centred, hippy-wannabe, dumb-ass who has thrown his toys and any respect I ever had for him, far from his pram.

The combination of the above, plus some of the worst music I've heard from a 'rock band' on WAN, Jon's appalling vocals and the total and utter bollocks of booking more dates when your guitarist isn't even on tour with you, just makes me realise how far this lot have fallen. I'm done with 'em.

Hope everyone enjoys their shows.

faith1985 06-06-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaky (Post 1136517)
Just pissed off and bored with it now... everyone involved has lost my respect, my cash, my fandom and my commitment. So I am finally leaving people on here at peace!

This band used to be something f*cking special and even when their music lost it's individuality and they stopped making timeless hits and started making stuff a few of us would like for five minutes, they still kicked your ass live...

But you honestly have to have the blinkers on to think they are anything close to how they used to be and without Richie, there's no soul to it any more. I don't need to see them live to say this but I will be, one last time in just over a week at Isle of Wight. I have the lowest expectations I've ever known for a show, because it's not Bon Jovi.

'It's not Jon, It's Richie' or visa-versa... I don't subscribe to it. It's all of them. Tico, Dave, the lot of them. We're the fans and we can see how f*cked up and disjointed this sh*t is, one of Jon's 'Yes-Man' flunkies or one of the band should be telling him likewise. Richie is coming off like a self-centred, hippy-wannabe, dumb-ass who has thrown his toys and any respect I ever had for him, far from his pram.

The combination of the above, plus some of the worst music I've heard from a 'rock band' on WAN, Jon's appalling vocals and the total and utter bollocks of booking more dates when your guitarist isn't even on tour with you, just makes me realise how far this lot have fallen. I'm done with 'em.

Hope everyone enjoys their shows.

Wow, bad day????
There is other music, you know ;-)

crashed 06-06-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaky (Post 1136517)
Just pissed off and bored with it now... everyone involved has lost my respect, my cash, my fandom and my commitment. So I am finally leaving people on here at peace!

This band used to be something f*cking special and even when their music lost it's individuality and they stopped making timeless hits and started making stuff a few of us would like for five minutes, they still kicked your ass live...

But you honestly have to have the blinkers on to think they are anything close to how they used to be and without Richie, there's no soul to it any more. I don't need to see them live to say this but I will be, one last time in just over a week at Isle of Wight. I have the lowest expectations I've ever known for a show, because it's not Bon Jovi.

'It's not Jon, It's Richie' or visa-versa... I don't subscribe to it. It's all of them. Tico, Dave, the lot of them. We're the fans and we can see how f*cked up and disjointed this sh*t is, one of Jon's 'Yes-Man' flunkies or one of the band should be telling him likewise. Richie is coming off like a self-centred, hippy-wannabe, dumb-ass who has thrown his toys and any respect I ever had for him, far from his pram.

The combination of the above, plus some of the worst music I've heard from a 'rock band' on WAN, Jon's appalling vocals and the total and utter bollocks of booking more dates when your guitarist isn't even on tour with you, just makes me realise how far this lot have fallen. I'm done with 'em.

Hope everyone enjoys their shows.

I will. Cheers.

Sissy3 06-06-2013 10:32 PM

Beaky, no one can tell you how to feel but, if you go with the idea your concert will suck the big one and you'll be miserable, then that's exactly what will happen. You're sitting it all up to fail. I've psyched myself out before about things and they turned out not to be as horrible as I expected. :)

jessycardy 06-06-2013 10:46 PM

I understand Beaky's frustration, I honestly do. And I think the fact that he has a show in a few days doesn't help matters either. I know for me it doesn't. If all this had happened while the band wasn't on tour, well, first of all we probably wouldn't know about it. Second, they would have had time and space to work it out. And third, we wouldn't be so directly involved. It feels like we're fighting against time, wishing our show was a little later on so that chances of Richie being back by then would be higher. Who the hell on this planet wishes the concert of their favorite artist could be further away in time rather than closer? It's a mess and it's screwing with our heads. I'll never say farewell to Bon Jovi, because they mean the world to me, and I still hope and wish for them to get back to when they were beautiful. But I think I can relate to the level of frustration.


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