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LeaJovi 05-09-2013 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrm123 (Post 1127982)
Phil looks really enthusiastic about playing with bon jovi...
http://youtu.be/nsBZRVTcsf0

He said "So let's rock n roll soon.." as in "I'm not rock n rolling right now with BJ"

Please elaborate

efiste2 05-09-2013 05:40 PM

If I was "off work" for personal reasons and I put pictures up on FB or Twitter of me enjoying myself I would be disciplined.......I think its taking the PISS a little bit here, hundreds of thousands of fans are gutted that he isnt on tour with the band, yet here he is posting nice family pics on twitter....or it really does quantify the fact that his PERSONAL ISSUES are about his daughter....

Jovimimi 05-09-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeaJovi (Post 1128041)
He said "So let's rock n roll soon.." as in "I'm not rock n rolling right now with BJ"

Please elaborate

meaning he is for the money not for the music (he is talking to HIS FANS)
to x and his fans bj music is better to not be qualified of any name unless your ears will bleed

jbjhand 05-09-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDJovi (Post 1128038)
Could not agree more. If you want privacy then have it. But all this does is wind people up even more. If he needs to spend time with his daughter then fine. Just say it, no one would think anything less of him.

Totally agree. I do think less of him for sending out tweets like that in the middle of the tour though. If he wants his privacy he is entitled to it but he not entitled to have it both ways.

A lot of people, myself included, would not have paid as much for a ticket had his absence been advertised. Something personal comes up which keeps him away from the tour and most of us accept his right to privacy and his implicit request for it.

I find it difficult to respect him when he starts tweeting photos of his personal life whilst being absent from the tour, which he is missing for...personal reasons.

Decide which way you want it to be Richie, but I cant respect you when you behave hypocritically.

Supersonic 05-09-2013 05:50 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovimimi (Post 1128046)
meaning he is for the money not for the music (he is talking to HIS FANS)
to x and his fans bj music is better to not be qualified of any name unless your ears will bleed

Exaggerating much? Phil X is no Richie Sambora but he's no Bobby either. And I doubt anyone not a guitarist is actually hearing the difference between Richie and Phil, especially nowadays.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Beaky 05-09-2013 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbjhand (Post 1128048)
Totally agree. I do think less of him for sending out tweets like that in the middle of the tour though. If he wants his privacy he is entitled to it but he not entitled to have it both ways.

A lot of people, myself included, would not have paid as much for a ticket had his absence been advertised. Something personal comes up which keeps him away from the tour and most of us accept his right to privacy and his implicit request for it.

I find it difficult to respect him when he starts tweeting photos of his personal life whilst being absent from the tour, which he is missing for...personal reasons.

Decide which way you want it to be Richie, but I cant respect you when you behave hypocritically.

That. 100%

Sambo-Chris 05-09-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1128049)
Aloha !



Exaggerating much? Phil X is no Richie Sambora but he's no Bobby either. And I doubt anyone not a guitarist is actually hearing the difference between Richie and Phil, especially nowadays.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

my friends who were in vegas heard the difference very well.

bjcrazycpa 05-09-2013 06:11 PM

I don't understand at all why Phil X would be the target of any nasty remarks. The dude was asked to step in as a lead guitarist. He's doing his job and to my ears fairly well. So, he doesn't like or listen to Bon Jovi on a regular basis. I don't think liking Bon Jovi music is a requirement otherwise they'd have no crew as most of them aren't fans of the music either. It's a job for them just as it is for Phil X.

Supersonic 05-09-2013 06:18 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1128052)
I don't understand at all why Phil X would be the target of any nasty remarks. The dude was asked to step in as a lead guitarist. He's doing his job and to my ears fairly well. So, he doesn't like or listen to Bon Jovi on a regular basis. I don't think liking Bon Jovi music is a requirement otherwise they'd have no crew as most of them aren't fans of the music either. It's a job for them just as it is for Phil X.

Yeah, but most fans aren't rational thinkers. They still like to believe that the band hangs out before and after the show, showers together, sleep in the same hotel room and are having a few minutes of silence before and after the show to pay respect to the best friend they're missing now. Bon Jovi are a business now more than ever, and although I disagree with them going on with the tour it didn't come unexpected. I'm not angry, just disappointed really, but I've moved on rather quickly. If fans would stop living in the past and face what the band has become nowadays I'd say it'd be a lot easier to just face reality.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Beaky 05-09-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1128052)
I don't understand at all why Phil X would be the target of any nasty remarks. The dude was asked to step in as a lead guitarist. He's doing his job and to my ears fairly well. So, he doesn't like or listen to Bon Jovi on a regular basis. I don't think liking Bon Jovi music is a requirement otherwise they'd have no crew as most of them aren't fans of the music either. It's a job for them just as it is for Phil X.

Spot on. I think the guy seems nice, I admire him. Plus, I think the latest album is a steaming turd... would I stand next to Jon and play songs from it in front of 60,000 people for a nice, fat pay packet and a chance to travel the world... or would I allow my principles to take control?

Show me the four chords for WAN, pass the pen and where do I sign?

CKatz 05-09-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1128054)
Aloha !



Yeah, but most fans aren't rational thinkers. They still like to believe that the band hangs out before and after the show, showers together, sleep in the same hotel room and are having a few minutes of silence before and after the show to pay respect to the best friend they're missing now. Bon Jovi are a business now more than ever, and although I disagree with them going on with the tour it didn't come unexpected. I'm not angry, just disappointed really, but I've moved on rather quickly. If fans would stop living in the past and face what the band has become nowadays I'd say it'd be a lot easier to just face reality.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I agree. I wonder why so many desperately want to believe the "bromance" thing between Richie and Jon is real. It's all just image. I think they've never been as close as some fans want to believe.

PatriciaSambora 05-09-2013 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbjhand (Post 1128048)
Totally agree. I do think less of him for sending out tweets like that in the middle of the tour though. If he wants his privacy he is entitled to it but he not entitled to have it both ways.

A lot of people, myself included, would not have paid as much for a ticket had his absence been advertised. Something personal comes up which keeps him away from the tour and most of us accept his right to privacy and his implicit request for it.

I find it difficult to respect him when he starts tweeting photos of his personal life whilst being absent from the tour, which he is missing for...personal reasons.

Decide which way you want it to be Richie, but I cant respect you when you behave hypocritically.

Agreed! Sorry Richie.. I love you and I was devastated when I saw the news about your abscense in Europe, but those pics etc makes me feel a little bit silly about this situation.. Me crying cause I was so excited to see you again and worried about you and you looks so fcking great...:s

CKatz 05-09-2013 06:35 PM

When you look at the tweets Richie is receiving after he posted the pic, all of the tweets are positive. Nobody is complaining to him directly, only behind his back.

rolo_tomachi 05-09-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1128021)
Aloha !



Yeah...that's definitely not it.

I fixed Ava's picture. Now who can Photoshop something on that lost highway?

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...osthighway.jpg

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Highways? Where they're going, they don't need highways.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/808...vingpartii.jpg
From the creator of Driving Miss Ava, here is the sequel that all of you were waiting for...
BACK TO THE DRIVING - PART II



...and COMING SOON
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4156/1drugsbj.jpg
Jonny Crockett fight against drugs in their own streets.

:cool:

MrNickel 05-09-2013 07:09 PM

Your photoshops are epic my man.

Sissy3 05-09-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1128060)

...and COMING SOON
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4156/1drugsbj.jpg
Jonny Crockett fight against drugs in their own streets.

:cool:

Laughing at this since Jon has a tendency to wear his shirts open that way. Only thing missing is the jewelry. :D

jessycardy 05-09-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CKatz (Post 1128040)
Nothing makes sense.

This. Totally.

Jovimimi 05-09-2013 07:56 PM

I don't believe in the bromance
ONE BIT
I THINK X video WAS DIRECTED TO HIS FANS not the jovi ones..then I explained maybe wrongly that part ....
if we had to hear what X has to say behind closed doors about *bon jovi music* our ears would bleed because of the things he rude things would say (not because he cannot play)
I don't care about his skills I simply shut myself off - plenty of tribute band play or sing better than bon jovi so what .. it's not about that
so yes if you thought I was qualifying his skills as making my ears bleed yes that would be way over the top ..I didn't say that..I said simply well if you knew what he has to say about bon jovi music to his own fans you would be unpleasantly surprised (he is not even trying to hide that in the video)

Crushgen24/88 05-09-2013 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1128052)
I don't understand at all why Phil X would be the target of any nasty remarks. The dude was asked to step in as a lead guitarist. He's doing his job and to my ears fairly well. So, he doesn't like or listen to Bon Jovi on a regular basis. I don't think liking Bon Jovi music is a requirement otherwise they'd have no crew as most of them aren't fans of the music either. It's a job for them just as it is for Phil X.

You took the words right out of my mouth Deb. Of all the people to be mad at in this situation (Richie, Jon, Matt, the organization), by get on Phil X? He's doing an admirable job filling in, and is clearly having the time of his life (go check out his Instagram)

Crushgen24/88 05-09-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovimimi (Post 1128068)
I don't believe in the bromance
ONE BIT
I THINK X video WAS DIRECTED TO HIS FANS not the jovi ones..then I explained maybe wrongly that part ....
if we had to hear what X has to say behind closed doors about *bon jovi music* our ears would bleed because of the things he rude things would say (not because he cannot play)
I don't care about his skills I simply shut myself off - plenty of tribute band play or sing better than bon jovi so what .. it's not about that
so yes if you thought I was qualifying his skills as making my ears bleed yes that would be way over the top ..I didn't say that..I said simply well if you knew what he has to say about bon jovi music to his own fans you would be unpleasantly surprised (he is not even trying to hide that in the video)

As a Bon Jovi fan, I'm a lot more disappointed in the way Jon/Richie/the band are handling this than I am knowing Phil doesn't particularly like their music.

Crushgen24/88 05-09-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1128036)
Richie should just stop tweeting. He's coming off like an unprofessional dick. If it's such a serious personal issue, he sure isn't coming across like it's bothering him too much.

This
Even if the point is to subtly show "Hey, I'm healthy." It just doesn't come off well.

JOVI7826 05-09-2013 08:33 PM

Oh My God That's Enough Already...richie This...richie That....i Say Leave The Man Alone.i Think He Made His Choice.the Band Is On Tour,and He Is Driving And Laughing With His Daughter,so Be It.i Can't See That Is Jon's Fault Anymore.and...you Know Something???phil X Rocks!!!i'm On Youtube For Some Time Now,seeing His Videos.he Is One Hell Of A Guy,and A Very Good Guitar Player.if Richie Wants To Leave The Band For Good,i Say Phil X Can Take His Place,why Not?

nickolai 05-09-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1128077)
Oh My God That's Enough Already...richie This...richie That....i Say Leave The Man Alone.i Think He Made His Choice.the Band Is On Tour,and He Is Driving And Laughing With His Daughter,so Be It.i Can't See That Is Jon's Fault Anymore.and...you Know Something???phil X Rocks!!!i'm On Youtube For Some Time Now,seeing His Videos.he Is One Hell Of A Guy,and A Very Good Guitar Player.if Richie Wants To Leave The Band For Good,i Say Phil X Can Take His Place,why Not?

Chill on the coffee, dude

LeaJovi 05-09-2013 08:43 PM

So they are not showering together before shows?

What a bummer.

The real question is.. who took the picture?

Was it Phil X?

JOVI7826 05-09-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickolai (Post 1128079)
Chill on the coffee, dude

You're Right...you Want Richie Sambora Make Fun Of You And All Of Us.that's Ok With Me.and You Know What?i Don't Even Like Coffee.so I Can Say That You Are Totally Wrong Either Way.

CKatz 05-09-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1128082)
You're Right...you Want Richie Sambora Make Fun Of You And All Of Us.that's Ok With Me.and You Know What?i Don't Even Like Coffee.so I Can Say That You Are Totally Wrong Either Way.

???
Calm down.

JOVI7826 05-09-2013 09:04 PM

As long as there is Jon Bon Jovi...There will be the band.No reason to hide from the truth.Richie is very important to the band,but let's face it..He is not irreplaceable.On the other hand...Jon is..

LeaJovi 05-09-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1128084)
As long as there is Jon Bon Jovi...There will be the band.No reason to hide from the truth.Richie is very important to the band,but let's face it..He is not irreplaceable.On the other hand...Jon is..

That's for the casuals, we don't give a **** about the casuals here. For me as a die-hard fan of Bon Jovi, there is no Bon Jovi without Richie.

rolo_tomachi 05-09-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1128077)
Oh My God That's Enough Already...richie This...richie That....i Say Leave The Man Alone.i Think He Made His Choice.the Band Is On Tour,and He Is Driving And Laughing With His Daughter,so Be It.i Can't See That Is Jon's Fault Anymore.and...you Know Something???phil X Rocks!!!i'm On Youtube For Some Time Now,seeing His Videos.he Is One Hell Of A Guy,and A Very Good Guitar Player.if Richie Wants To Leave The Band For Good,i Say Phil X Can Take His Place,why Not?

Phil X don't like Bon Jovi, even been laughed at her music in the past.

What makes you think you can join the band? the money? Wow, what a great guy.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9300/xdolares.jpg

JOVI7826 05-09-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKatz (Post 1128083)
???
Calm down.

I am fine thank you,but you know something?I worked my ass for over a year to go to Vienna and Milan on this tour..And Richie just smiles in his big SUV...and leaves the tour for likely no serious reason at all..I'm sorry,I don't feel ok with that.

jbjhand 05-09-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1128084)
As long as there is Jon Bon Jovi...There will be the band.No reason to hide from the truth.Richie is very important to the band,but let's face it..He is not irreplaceable.On the other hand...Jon is..

Richie is 100% irreplaceable to the band. Ok Jon can get Phil to fill in for live shows but no Richie equals no Bon Jovi. You heard the last album? That's what happens with no Richie, and it stinks.

rolo_tomachi 05-09-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1128084)
As long as there is Jon Bon Jovi...There will be the band.No reason to hide from the truth.Richie is very important to the band,but let's face it..He is not irreplaceable.On the other hand...Jon is..

That thought Axl Rose...

JOVI7826 05-09-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeaJovi (Post 1128087)
That's for the casuals, we don't give a **** about the casuals here. For me as a die-hard fan of Bon Jovi, there is no Bon Jovi without Richie.

You call me a casual??Sorry my friend,but I've been listening to Bon Jovi for 25 years...Since I was 12 years old....I was listening to the band since you weren't born yet..My life IS Bon Jovi...So don't casual me please...

LeaJovi 05-09-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1128093)
You call me a casual??Sorry my friend,but I've been listening to Bon Jovi for 25 years...Since I was 11 years old....I was listening to the band since you weren't born yet..My life IS Bon Jovi...So don't casual me please...

Nobody casualed (?) you dude, you can also be a die-hard that's in love with Jon.

CKatz 05-09-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1128089)
I am fine thank you,but you know something?I worked my ass for over a year to go to Vienna and Milan on this tour..And Richie just smiles in his big SUV...and leaves the tour for likely no serious reason at all..I'm sorry,I don't feel ok with that.

You don't seem to care if Richie is there, because you're quick to replace him. And you're wrong if you think the band could continue without Richie. It would be a mess musically, not to mention their reputation would take a serious hit. They would lose a lot of fans, causing their already shrinking fanbase to become even smaller. The reality is they can't afford to lose Richie.

JOVI7826 05-09-2013 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=JOVI7826;1128093]You call me a casual??Sorry my friend,but I've been listening to Bon Jovi for 25 years...Since I was 12 years old....I was listening to the band since you weren't born yet..My life IS Bon Jovi...So don't casual me please...

afk 05-09-2013 09:23 PM

LOL love the "pathetic" comment :D

JOVI7826 05-09-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeaJovi (Post 1128094)
Nobody casualed (?) you dude, you can also be a die-hard that's in love with Jon.

I am man,not a woman...Unless you know men that like men in your city.Either way I am not one of them.

cowboy2002 05-09-2013 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon-flp (Post 1128015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSYFlXn8VBQ

Anyone can get what Jon talks about Richie at 2:26??

"I'm just looking at how good you look to me now"

He was talking to the crowd

jessycardy 05-09-2013 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOVI7826 (Post 1128098)
I am man,not a woman...Unless you know men that like men in your city.Either way I am not one of them.

I can assure you that exists outside of his city as well. Shocking, I know... *facepalm*


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