He talks about him having to cut his solo tour short

Maybe he doesn't like the "mammoth machine" anymore.

My initial reaction to Richie's absence was one of irritation and disbelief, and I had seriously considered not attending the Denver show. I did, and it was a blast, although Richie was certainly missed.
My feeling now is that, if Richie is sitting out the tour for "personal" reasons, even if they are as simple as being with Ava as she learns to drive, I accept that and am glad he's healthy (apparently). Although, he did look kinda pufftastic in that pic.
If he's putting being a Dad over rocking, I support that.
If he's simply burnt out, I even support that. There was nothing on my ticket that guaranteed me Richies presence. I was promised a show and got one.
I'm going to be in LA at the time of the proposed RIR concert, and if he's gonna be there, so will I (although I prob won't buy tix until the last minute)
Also "casualed" should be added to our vocabulary here.

Ha ha ha..as we say in the south, "that tickled me"...

Oh yes Mireille I got in your first post that you were pointing out that Phil X is being critical of Bon Jovi music to his Drills fans. The thing is that doesn't bother me and I would doubt it even bothers Jon, Tico or David as they know the man's role. He's simply here as a substitute for Richie. I think you are more bothered by Phil X (or appear to be) because you see him as a real threat to replace Richie. That would ONLY happen if Richie decides to walk away and whatever the issue is now, I just don't see that happening.

Why can't he ever express his own thoughts? He always just regurgitates what Jon says in interviews... The Stones are the benchmark... Each band member has their own outside interest that they bring to the table...

Richie has so much more personality than Jon, but in promo interviews for the band he just repeats the same crap Jon has said for years.

Richie Sambora wants to be a father first, then, a rock star.

Dorothea can be a mother... but with Ava, their mother is even in worse mental condition than Richie.

Maybe that's the 'personal reason'.

Jolo.

Master Seb doesn't seem to think so.

Jon sounds nasally when he talks live these days, too.

They have a DeLorean and travel to the sixties, that's the reason.

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Jon sent Richie back in time to run over Paul McCartney, therefore ensuring Paul truly would be dead.

Agree with everything there, especially the last part. If they change up the setlists and the music sounds good, then I'll be happy. There has def been shows where Richie hasn't been on top form and I've still enjoyed the show. Milton Keynes 06 springs to mind, night two he was def on the sauce. Agree it's still not BJ without him but no point in dwelling on it. Gotta go with an open mind and hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Didn't stand Bon JOvi on your ticket? On my order it did so I got my money back since I wouldn't get what I bought.

Beside Richie,i'm Listening To Thick As Thieves Right Now.brilliant Song...which Makes Me Think That The Setlists This Year Are No Brilliant At All.why They Don't Play Different Songs From Wan??beautiful World,pictures Of You,what's Left Of Me????just A Thought....

Yes, that is what was said. I was listening out for any mention of Richie, there wasn't.

As for Phil X, not liking the bands music, I agree with Deb that its not a big deal, but I don't believe he has as much disdain for the music as some believe. I was reaalllly bored one day and having discovered his instagram went through way back through his photo's, and there was a photo of him a friend or two and his wife/ girlfriend attending a Bon Jovi concert. Granted I doubt he paid but I'm sure he didn't have to go either. He seems to be really proud to be playing with the band and his friends and family are really proud and happy for him.

Basically what I'm trying to say is while the music may not be his cup of tea, there doesn't appear to be a lack of respect for the band.

I don't believe he was taking a knock at Bon Jovi's music in that video. He does video's for Fretted America, whilst with Bon Jovi he can't do those video's so for the viewers of the videos there's no rock n roll with him until he is done with Bon Jovi.

Yes, and fair play to you. And if you want to play that card, nobody has ever seen the "Rolling Stones" since Brian Jones died. I saw Jon Bon Jovi, I heard the catalogue of Bon Jovi songs, and had a great time. Was my guitar hero, a founding member of the group that is Bon Jovi, there? No. Was I disappointed? Sure. Did I still get the tunes? You bet. Did Jon, Phil, T, David, Hugh and Bobby work their ASSES OFF and earn my ticket price and appreciation, absolutely they did.

Also, if you read the ticket's fine print, it essentially says that the show ITSELF is not guaranteed. Refunds and logistics not withstanding.

Don't forget Phil X has attracted over 30 million hits on his frettedamericana videos! He's trying to showcase those guitars, and play the sort of styles that "fit" the guitar. His repertoire is vast. He has played BJ riffs a number of times, memorably on a 12 string.
I have some sympathy for him, as, in order to appease the casuals, he must be true to the original recordings, which in turn disappoints the hard core who love the "soul" Richie adds in the live environment, sober or not. Shit or Bust basically.

I think I know what's happened:p

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x72...n#.UYyi_Mu9KSN

Or search guitarist carpel tunnel surgery....

No I agree, Richie Sambora is not the equivalent of Brian Jones. Richie Sambora is the equivalent of Keith Richards.

You attend a show of "The Rolling Stones" without Keith Richards?

You wouldn't need to think about it since the Stones cancelled their tour when Keith Richards couldn't be there. Like every band does when a member can't be there.

GNR carried on without Izzy before he offically left.

That is very true and it bothers me how easily it all goes on without Richie. Don't the Stones' crew members have to put shoes on their kids' feet as well?

And for the past years they carry on without Slash. It's like with the Stones, RS ist the equivalent to Keith and in GnR case to Slash, not to Izzy.

The really sad thing is Bon Jovi claim to be a "brotherhood" and loyal to each other. Apparently loyalty goes out the window when money is involved. What more proof do fans need that the brotherhood image is just bullshit?

As much as we'd love to find a Richie remark in there, that is just that what he said.

Much clearer sound (1:20):

thread is slowing!! down!!

not enough gossip and speculation any more!!

time to talk about a huge 'we love richie' banner for Slane!!

I don't think Hugh could hold a banner to support Richie during the Ireland show as he'll be too busy playing.

Having said that, perhaps he could use his 'thingy' to hold it?... or even play? - he strikes me as a man of many talents?

Yeah because pissing off Jon will make it a great show for everyone who spent tons of money to be there. Great plan.

Why would that piss Jon off? Jon needs to get over himself if he would get angry about something like that.

How do we know Richie didn't say "Don't stop the tour cause of me. GO GUYS GO!"
I'm kinda sick of all this talk that there has to be something nefarious going on because the guys are on the road. Everything out of Jon and David and Tico's (and even Matt's) doesn't refute the "brotherhood."

And Rolo and Sambo, I agree that Sambora = Richards. I was trying to make the point that the Rolling Stones are still VERY much a force despite not "technically", to use Sambo's logic "The Rolling Stones" because Jones is long passed on and otherwise not present.

I'd be also willing to bet that not touring without Keef was MORE financially motivated than the guys touring without Rich, for those screaming "where's the love."

Also, this may be naive and romantic, but if JBJ and co were to stop touring because of the adversity they face without RS, wouldn't that fly in the face of every "It's My Life," "Livin On A Prayer" message they've ever written/sung?

Thx for the video, got it now I think: "Now just look at how good you look to me right now"!

Beat me to the "Hugh holding the banner" joke.

I agree with Matt Bongiovi on everything, and have never particularly liked "I Believe" or really any of the bands output Pre 2007.

Aaannnd go!

Sat and watched the Yokohama gig from 1996 yesterday.
Wife asked me afterwards if it got me more excited for Hyde Park.
My response "erm, nope, quite the opposite".
She asked why......

The songs back then were more guitar orientated, the chemistry was better and the set-lists perfect. Even the intro with the marching band.... Where's that kind of thing gone!???!??!

Now the set list is bland thanks to the post HAND crap that's been dished out.
Richie is no longer at the forefront, delivering guitar solos (or even present at all) and the chemistry seems to have faded.
Age obviously has taken it's toll on them all too. Hell, Jon was younger then than I am now!!!

I'm going with low expectations, so I can only come away unaffected or happy with what I get.

Haha gotta love that...

You don't like I Believe?????Oh Dear God, I must be dreaming...This must be a nightmare...

That's really not true. Plenty of bands have used temporary members when a full-time member is unavailable for part of a tour.

Yeah, but does that apply for integral members? Have The Stones ever performed without Keef, Queen without Brian May, GnR without Slash etc.? Oasis did have some changes, was it always both Gallaghers?

Certainly these bands won't perform without their lead singer, but what about bass players, drummers etc.? Just curious.

And I'm not talking about line-up changes, like Aerosmith played with two different guitarists in the early 80s (without the integral Joe Perry).

very good!! now corrected the rather poor English!!!

Richie is not like Brian Jones. Sambora co-writting, Brian Jones not. Sambora still 29 years in the band, Jones Not.

Tico is appreciated, but Richie is a critical piece in a show of Bon Jovi, like Keith Richards IMO.

Phil is a uncomfortable filler, and if Richie does not return, I will not go, that's my stance.


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The crotch is really disturbing. He looks eager to Kill Phil.