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Johny 10-04-2020 12:48 AM

The worst album opener
 
I think the song that opens an album is quite an essential one because it sets the tone, it hooks you up or drives you away.
I was wondering about that because of Limitless. If I weren't a fan and someone recommended me 2020, I'd stop listening to it because of that song.

Which is the worst album opener to you? Or which one doesn't introduce you to the album properly?

My opinion is that the forst song doesn't necessarily has to be the lead single. I tink it works better if it is not. I prefer a song with a bit of intro and a possible show opener. The lead single should go second.

Johny 10-04-2020 01:00 AM

Why the hell does the poll offer only 10 options?!?!?

I had to pick ten so I skipped those that are praised here (Lay Your Hands On Me, I Believe etc..) and kept those that might get some votes.

You may wonder why Hey God is there. It's because it got me confused when I was little. After I had discovered Bon Jovi I used to visit the only music mall in my city where it was possible to listen to tge CDs before you bought them. I used to spend a lot of time there just listening :D I collected my pocket money to be able to buy CD after CD. So I had to pick carefully. When I played These Days, I thought that the album is too heavy for me and I never got further than Hey God :) so it was one of the last albums I bought and I was really surprised that it's full of ballads and slow songs. I couldn't into it for a long time.

Even though Burning Bridges is rather a compilation of previously written songs (recorded and produced at once, so not a compilation album as such. Many bands would release it as their normal album) I put A Teardrop To The Sea there because it's not usual to start with a slow song and a bit dark one. So some might vote this one. I love it :) maybe if These Days started with Something To Believe In it's introduce the album better for me back then :D

thesedays2014 10-04-2020 01:09 AM

Because we can is the worst opener...I actually like the song and its positivity, but Jovi have always had great or at least good opening songs.
I think Limitless, although it’s a ‘limited’ song, opens well...Hey God? Best opener to the best album ❤️

bonjovi90 10-04-2020 01:18 AM

I hate both Because We Can and Limitless with passion, so I have a hard time choosing. But as repetitive and bubblegum-like Limitless may be, I think I'll go with Because We Can. Simply because it was at a time where I still had high hopes, really was anticipating the release and then felt so let-down by this track. Most of the other opening tracks, I'm okay with.

bounce442 10-04-2020 01:19 AM

I voted Limitless because it is their worst single ever and probably worst opener but Teardrop to the Sea sure is close

Butters 10-04-2020 12:30 PM

Limitless followed by WWBTF. Both songs are boring, are disconnected from the rest of the album, and do not properly introduce the listener to what is to come.

I Believe, and Hey God, are perfect opening tracks because they portend what is to come and are real statements of intent.

YOVANAfromPeru 10-04-2020 12:45 PM

Lost Highway is worse than Born To Follow.

rolo_tomachi 10-04-2020 12:52 PM

Because We Can is the worst single and worst opener of an Album.

But I don't like how Lost Highway starts either, the song is ok, but it's not a great opener, neither for the album nor for the shows. Even though We Got It Going On isn't a great song, I feel like it's a perfect song to open an album.

Limitless is not a terrible opener, in fact if Beautiful Drug didn't exist, Limitless would be my opener choice ... but I agree with you that Beautiful Drug does it better.

The Circle, my favorite post2000 album, could have opened with WWWB and then We Werent Born To Follow as track2.

The order of the first three songs on Burning Bridges is perfect for me.


Apart from this, an alternative to Hey God could have been All I want is Everything, especially in live shows. And Last Man Standing would have worked very well as an opener from Album.

liljovi93 10-04-2020 03:07 PM

The last few have been. I actually really like A Teardrop as an opener.

Hate WWBTF, Lost Highway, Because We Can & Limitless, though. I'd probably go with Because We Can I think.

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Faceman 10-04-2020 03:50 PM

Lost Highway, We Weren't Born To Follow and Because We Can really didn't set the bar very high.
But Limitless to me is the worst one of bad album opener.

Alphavictim 10-05-2020 10:22 AM

Kinda tough to say. Limitless was a pretty terrible first single, since we've all hear it before, just much better. So that certainly clouded my judgement as well.

Not that I was much of a fan of Because We Can; but that one at least was somewhat new in terms of style, and I like the verses. Although that only made the chorus even more of a letdown.

Also, I don't like Lost Highway; style-wise plus the album was a huge letdown for me when it was released.

But yeah, these three are hardly my favorites. Judging from others' votes, there's quite the consensus as far as that goes.

Also, thinking about this... I'm wondering if there's other stuff on these albums that would've worked better as an opener. 2020 I could easily see opening with Beautiful Drug or Do What You Can; the other two albums I'm having a harder time picking something.

GabrielC 10-05-2020 07:59 PM

I couldn't decide between Because We Can and Limitless, so I voted both :D

† ÀžžÀ † 10-06-2020 11:07 AM

Limitless by some distance. Succeeded in lowering expectations for the album.

hackster73 10-11-2020 06:42 PM

I voted born to follow, not a fan of that song and should have opened with when we were beautiful, which bookends learn to love.

Also would have preferred that's what the water made me as the opener on what about now.

Captain_jovi 10-11-2020 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1268801)

Also, thinking about this... I'm wondering if there's other stuff on these albums that would've worked better as an opener. 2020 I could easily see opening with Beautiful Drug or Do What You Can; the other two albums I'm having a harder time picking something.

I've stopped listening to 2020 with the new tracklisting. BD holds up a lot better as the opener.

bonjovi90 10-11-2020 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1269243)
I've stopped listening to 2020 with the new tracklisting. BD holds up a lot better as the opener.

Me too. The original tracklist manages to "lighten up" the theme-heavy tracks by placing Luv Can and Shine in there. The newer version is too depressing, both in terms of the quality of the most recent tracks and in terms of the pacing being worse.

Kathleen 10-11-2020 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1269245)
Me too. The original tracklist manages to "lighten up" the theme-heavy tracks by placing Luv Can and Shine in there. The newer version is too depressing, both in terms of the quality of the most recent tracks and in terms of the pacing being worse.

Can you (or someone else) please list the original track listing that you are talking about. I'm not sure I ever saw it and I certainly wasn't paying attention at the time. Now that I am paying attention I would love to hear the difference.

Captain_jovi 10-11-2020 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1269248)
Can you (or someone else) please list the original track listing that you are talking about. I'm not sure I ever saw it and I certainly wasn't paying attention at the time. Now that I am paying attention I would love to hear the difference.

1. Beautiful Drug
2. Unbroken
3. Limitless
4. Luv Can
5. Brothers In Arms
6. Story Of Love
7. Lower The Flag
8. Let It Rain
9. Shine
10. Blood In The Water

Enjoy!

Kathleen 10-11-2020 10:04 PM

Thanks Matt - much appreciated :)

steel_horse75 10-11-2020 10:23 PM

Because we can and WWBTF


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BJFan99 11-18-2020 09:50 AM

Tough call between BWC and Limitless - had to go with the latter one, though. Simply a horrific excuse of a song.

steel_horse75 11-18-2020 11:03 AM

Tough one out of these 2 but I domt have limitless as my opener so ill go with BWC.

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Walleris 11-18-2020 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1270206)
Tough one out of these 2 but I domt have limitless as my opener so ill go with BWC.

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LOL

I refuse to acknowledge anything post-2000 as Bon Jovi, hence I'll go with Hey God as that's right about where they started selling out :D

/s

BJ Fan 2020 12-15-2020 11:25 PM

The decision isn't hard for me: Because we Can, because i absolutely hated the whole Album What About Now.


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