Special Editions 2010 - origins of the live songs
Hi all,
I'd like to compile all the information and guessing on when and where the particular songs were played. I hope you can help me. Here is a list of what I have, some are my tips, some are tips from wikipedia. Yellow songs are the ones I need help with, the red ones I have no clue of where and when. I'll update the list based on your tips and the discussion. The list: Bon Jovi (the album) 10. Runaway - 1985-04-28 Tokyo 11. Roulette - BBC Friday Rock Show 12. Breakout - 1984-08-11 Super Rock '84, Tokyo 13. Get Ready - 1985-04-28 Tokyo 7800° Fahrenheit 11. In And Out Of Love - intro 1986 Japan, the rest 1985-04-28 Tokyo 12. Only Lonely - soundcheck, most likely 1986 13. Tokyo Road - most likely 1985 Slippery When Wet 11. You Give Love A Bad Name - maybe 1993? 12. Livin' On A Prayer - 2008-07-12 Central Park, NYC 13. Wanted Dead Or Alive (acoustic) - maybe 1992 promo tour New Jersey 13. Blood On Blood - most likely European leg of the tour - 1989-12-?? 14. Born To Be My Baby - 1988-12-02 Glasgow (up to solo) Keep The Faith 13. Keep The Faith - most likely 1995 14. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead - most likely 1992/1993 These Days 13. This Ain't A Love Song - 1995-05-27 Bremen 14. Diamond Ring - 1995-05-23 Milan Crush 13. It's My Life- most likely 2007 - 2008 14. Just Older - most likely 2008 15. Captain Crash & The Beauty Queen From Mars- most likely 2007 - 2008 Bounce 13. The Distance - 2002 promo tour 14. Joey - soundcheck 15. Hook Me Up - 2002-08-23 Hammerstein Ballrom, NYC 16. Bounce Have A Nice Day 13. Have A Nice Day 14. Last Man Standing 15. Story Of My Life 16. Who Says You Can't Go Home (duet; feat. Jenniffer Nettles) 2006-02-14 Nashville Lost Highway 13. Lost Highway 14. We Got It Going On - 2008-07-12 Central Park, NYC 15. Any Other Day- most likely 2008-07/06-?? 16. I Love This Town The Circle 13. We Weren't Born to Follow - 2010-02-27/26 Anaheim 14. When We Were Beautiful - 2010-02-27/26 Anaheim 15. Superman Tonight - 2010-02-27/26 Anaheim 16. Love's the Only Rule - 2010-02-27/26 Anaheim |
We Got It Goin On is also from Central Park :) 100%
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KTF is definitely from the 95-96 era.
IML and Captain Crash are from the Lost Highway Tour definitely. Maybe even Just Older too. What a ripoff. Hook Me Up is definitely from Hammerstein Ballroom. 2002-08-23 is the date. I remember hearing that The Circle tracks are all from Anaheim. 2010-02-26/27 I also remember hearing that Blood on Blood is from Wembley 1989. The Distance sounds like either a soundchek or a promo show. Joey is a soundcheck. Any Other Day is from near the end of the Lost Highway Tour, as there isn't a Richie solo, which they retardedly stopped including in June. As for the others, I'm not sure. I really want to know where Story Of My Life is from with the Hugh mistake. And ISWID, by far the best version I've found. And the EXACT date of KTF. |
I was severly dissappointed in the SP's. Basically we were lied to, these songs are not all from the era of each album, not even close! I am convinced the reason early on in the "circle" tour they played "Roulette", "Shot Through The Heart" and other early tracks is so they could potentially get a good version to use on the SP's and NOT use an actual "From The Era" live recording. After the SP's were realeased they basically stopped playing the early songs on tour.
Also, did you download the extra tracks from the "Vault". I did! How about this...after the song download edthe song title included the year of recording, and most were not even close to from "The Era"! IBTFY was this..."I'll Be There For You/2001", that's how it appeared! "Raise Your Hands/2005". I love this band, but it was a flat out lie. This is probably old news to most of you however. |
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I agree on ISWID, it sounds fresh and entertaining. Nothing you can say about it now. It even sounds like from early KTF days to me, according to Jon's intro but none of my versions agree. I've listened to some live versions of this song and I must say that eg the one from Rotterdam 1993-04-23 is really cool. It sounded worse even in 1995. Thanks for you help. I'll change the first post later. |
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I'm pretty Captain Crash is earlier than the HAND Tour.
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Are you sure about the string break? You can still hear him playing. It almost sounds like he started "Radio..." instead. I'd assume from the similar intros.
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Question is whether he thinks about 1984 as the beginning. When he did the timewarp in 2005 and 2006, he usually stopped in 1984, then he changed it to 1983 or 1982 when Runaway was written. However, most likely you right :) Quote:
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I' surprised that we don't know about it. It is only four or five years ago, I think the pbps were done at that time? And some of the people here must have been there.... Quote:
Thanks for help, I hope others would join. |
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Bon Jovi played at Birmingham nec around christmas of 1989 (between Xmas and new year) . I know I was there and I think Eddie73 can confirm it as he was too. They were supported by Dan Reed Network. I went to 3 shows iirc and it was the first I heard Prayer and I,ll be there for you done acoustically. There was a review of one of the shows a few years ago in Classic Rock. Roulette was recorded at Ipswich Gaumont Theatre on Oct 11TH 1984. They were supporting KISS and both groups shows were recorded and played on The Friday Rock Show. |
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But Prayer was done the normal way and I'll Be There For You wasn't played at all. They played Living In Sin at every show at that time - it was the current single. I'll Be There For You was done sometimes as a second ballad of the show, opening the encore. But not that often. |
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Without sounding patronising I,m 42 and remember it well. you are 22 and taking your info from the internet I would imagine. I still cant understand why these shows arent listed on a lot of archive sites, but the same sites state Queensryche supported BJ in the uk in 86. It was in fact a group called FM. There are quite a few mistakes on these archive sites but for some reason when I point them out I seem to be ignored despite the fact I was at these shows. And while I,m still moaning Crown of Thorns, Thunder and Van Halen supported BJ at Sheffield on the Crossroads tour in 95. Not Ugly Kid Joe. |
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They did acoustic Prayer at the first Wembley show, along with acoustic jam, Love For Sale and Ride Cowboy Ride. But no I'll Be There For You. The last show in Wembley started with Raise Your Hands, they also played Social Disease and Seven Days. Only Without Love and Never Say Goobye missed to make it a SWW night :D I'm taking my info from what I hear ;) I have those shows as bootlegs and the bootlegs were labelled by people who recorded them, which means they were there, just like you :) this is not a question of age ;) I really appreciate people like you remembering those days. I love the New Jersey era everything included, so any new info is precious to me :) As for Roulette - I've compared them and they are not the same :( |
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Now trust me :) I've listened to so many BOB as possible and this is definitely the December of 1989. |
The Roulette thing surprises me because I used to have a recording of both KISS' s and Bon Jovi from the Ipswich show.
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1989-12-27 exists as bootleg. I don't remember Jon saying whether it is first or which night. I'll listen to it again. I suppose it is the first, it would be logical that they were home or at least didn't play during holiday. |
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Found a ticket stub for sale online: Birmingham Nec 29/12/89 - Ticket - UK - 1989 Used Ticket Stub For Concert Fri 29 Dec 1989, /EX |
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I'm just pissed off that they dare to say the songs are from eg SWW albums and put there a recording 22 later. Quote:
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Sorry to push this discussion again, but I got my Crush, New Jersey, Keep The Faith and These Days Special Editions this week, cause they were 5 each on Amazon.de.
Well, what I wanted to say is that I really think Just Older is from 2005-2006 time. Although Jon's vocals seem to be a bit too strong for this time I thought it's gotta be from there cause you can clearly hear Dave and Jeff Kazee play Keys. There's a piano (both handed) and an organ playing simultaneously, which is clearly an indication for the HAND tour, or was Kazee still with them on the LH tour? Or is it even from 2004 Borgata show? (Wonder if it was played there?) |
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But there are two reasons I thought this can't be Dave only: a) the organ in this version is quite prominent in the mix and sounds different to the organ-sound Dave uses usually. b) in the calm part of the song you can hear Dave clearly play piano both handed. He wouldn't be able to play these organ licks while doing this. He'd need a third hand :) |
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Just finished to register all albums in the vault.
I got to say, this time I really like what Obie did with this songs. Richieīs guitar on Raise your hands itīs on the top of the mixing, itīs on vocals level. And the same to Hey God, itīs one of the most powerfull version that I got and the mix is great again. Good job this time |
A question about the live version of Any Other Day. Did they edit it out, or did Richie not play the a solo during the "jam" during some of the shows? It just seems odd that Bobby, Lorenza, and David would get turns but not Richie.
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just had a quick look through some press cuttings i've got, listed below are the UK tour dates from Dec '88 & Dec'89/Jan '90. taken from press ads at the time:
1988: 2/3 Dec - Glasgow S.E.C.C. 5/6 Dec - Birmingham N.E.C. 8/9 Dec - Wembley Arena 11 Dec - Birmingham N.E.C. 12/13 Dec - Wembley Arena 1989/90: 27/28/29/30 Dec - Birmingham N.E.C. 2/3/4 Jan - Wembley Arena 6 Jan - Belfast King's Hall 7 Jan - Dublin The Point I'm sure they played Dublin in '88 as well. I'll check it out hope this helps sc |
Hi! I know it's a topic with no new posts for a long time. But I bought some times ago my first CD from Special Edition (Bounce).
Thanks for great work for recognition some of Live Bonus Tracks. It's a shame that the Live songs aren't labeled/named precisely (by place and date). It's not hard for singles why it was so hard for albums? Maybe becouse some aren't from rigth tour? :confused: I have a question about of rest of the Bonus tracks (from vault.bonjovi.com). Is there a list of all of them? (1 per album?) It would be nice to get them listed all alonside CD tracks. And if anyone could say from which show are they? :rolleyes: Any info about Bounce (Live) or Everyday (Live "from vault")? And from what exactly promo concert The Distance is? :rolleyes: |
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http://www.bjaidb.com/album_info.php?album_ID=315 maybe Johny could add them to the list on post #1 |
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Hahahahaha I don't think so. It's really sad how a lot of the songs in these Special Editions were claimed to be from their respective tours when they're so obviously not, Raise Your Hands and Livin' On A Prayer being the very very obvious ones. |
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please excuse my noob question, but all these SOUNDBOARD recordings, how does the "recorder" get access to the sound board:confused:
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yup confirmed, think was from December 27th from memory ( sorry for late response ) haha |
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