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In 1987, Jon stated about Fairbairn's work: "...but what he did all the time was observe and trying to figure out 'this is Bon Jovi, how do I make a Bon Jovi record out of this?', instead of going in the studio and saying 'do this, do this, do this' and making it in essence a Bruce Fairbairn record." Funny how nowdays Jon pretty much contradicts everything that the Jon from 20+ years ago used to say or do :D |
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Shanks is very close to JBJ
and since the whole Bon Jovi organization is based in friendship... who knows until when we're going to have Shanks... |
Anyone who says John Shanks has had limited success is uninformed.
John Shanks is a 6 time Grammy nominated songwriter, producer and accomplished guitar player. John has produced and/or written 43 #1 singles, 86 #1 albums and sold over 60 million records to date in the genres of Rock, Pop and Country music. |
Yeah, I'm no Shanks fan but you can't deny that he's produced and written a lot of big hit singles and albums all over the world. He's had MUCH bigger hits than those he's had with Jovi...
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He could easily work with pretty much any hit-making current artist across several genres. For him, sticking with Bon Jovi is actually putting a limit on his “success rate” when it comes to statistics like those. That’s the realist in me talking. I love Bon Jovi, but it’s difficult for artists who have been around that long to get substantial radio play. There’s something that keeps him working and touring with Bon Jovi. Maybe the friendships are that deep. Maybe he likes the stability.
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Musicians are a pain in the ass. When you find one that you connect with, I can see why he might want to stick with that even if it doesn't make him as much money, it will probably be a much easier ride for him. Although that i'm sure he gets paid incredibly well in Jovi...
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From the recent video of Richie and Bob in studio it appears that Richie is still on the booze train so I expect either nothing to come of this or a very patchy strange RSO type album without Borinathi.
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Sigh, and here we go again. there was nothing wrong with Richie in that video with Bob Rock...at all.
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Do you think there's a conspiracy or something? Have you never seen how a drunk person behaves? I'm a Richie fan above all but I'm also not blinded by fandom. He's a mess. He couldn't even play his parts properly at the Hall Of Fame show. |
We're talking about the recent video, Richie looks in better place to me now, and never liked that Orianthi.
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If you think Richie was wasted in that interview then I have to ask if you have ever really watched a Richie interview in the last 30 years? He's a goofball whenever he can get away with it. This was a relaxed interview in his own studio with friends he's known for years...it's the same old Richie to me...certainly not the mumbling incoherent Richie of 2014ish....not even close... |
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As I said, I love Richie and constantly hope he chooses the path the gets him back to being the man we know he can be. If you don't think he's on anything then that's fair enough. Neither of us can prove anything anyway so it's futile arguing it. |
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Richie has been slurring more and more the past decade and I'm in the camp that thinks it might not be from being ON drugs but either the effects of them or something medical. He used to speak a whole lot clearly.
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He didn't start making "mistakes" live until HAND-ish era which make sense given his life situations and how it was dealt with. I don't recall too many guitar slip ups on the Crush and Bounce tours but HAND forward I can think of more than a few. Is it a case of youtube being more prevalent? I don't know.
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Suggesting that he has brain damage to explain his slurring rather than the most obvious cause of current alcoholism / drug use is nonsensical and not rooted in any evidence.
He's an addict. I don't know why people can't come to terms with that instead of finding excuses for him. You'd all be useless in AA. |
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I'm not saying that he is or isn't, but from my experience, he didn't seem drunk to high to me in that interview. For you he did, and that's fine, but that doesn't make you right, anymore than my beliefs make me right. You have no more evidence that Richie was high in that vid then we do that it is because of lasting effects of years of abuse. Truth is none of us know, it's all speculation so asking for proof is pointless.. |
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That said, something clearly changed with him from the Aftermath period to just after leaving Bon Jovi. Unfortunately for the naysayers, returing to booze and/or drugs is a damn good explanation for that change. |
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By the way, slurring of the words is also common with someone who is in recovery/withdrawal, so saying he's high because he's slurring is far from an accurate assesment... Also, some people just slur more when they get older.... |
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Another amateur Doctor amongst us. It would absolutely be referred to as brain damage by any medical professional.There are two types, traumatic, which is acquired through e.g. a blow to the head and acquired brain damage which comes as a result of the misuse of drugs or strokes, heart attacks etc. You and several others suggested the latter. I'm completely done with this topic as you're obviously in la la land and making bizarre excuses for an addict and then back tracking when you're made to look silly. How about.... Maybe he loves hot sauce so much that his tongue has become enlarged and makes him sound drunk? Sounds plausable and no one can actually prove it's bullshit and it fits my fanboy ideal that Richie isn't on something. Anyway as I said I'm done talking about it. You can have the last word if you please. |
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So yeah, I'm done too as you are clearly unwilling to see any other point of view but your own, and resort to slinging insults around instead of actually making a decent argument...so it's not really a discussuion is it... For the record I never back tracked on anything and never categorically stated that he wasn't on something, just that in my opinion he wasn't in that particular video...You think he's drunk in the video, I don't. That's the end of it really.... |
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This is one of the problems when discussing Richie. There are undoubtedly times since he left Bon Jovi where he has been high and/or drunk and it has showed. However, some say he is off his head in every single video he does, on stage, off stage, interview, TMZ airport surprise, or whatever.
As much as I would ridicule someone denying he has his issues, it is equally as stupid to believe he is always ****ed up. According to some, he never touches substances, and according to others he is swimming in coke, pills, and vodka every waking minute. I would suggest the truth may be somewhere in-between. |
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Okay all. We now have TWO threads going on about Richie. This is exactly what I thought would happen. Let's keep this one to talk about his new album and the other one can be about everything else please.
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I was an admin in many groups and used to think order and sticking to one topic was everything but this is not how things work. Let people live and express their feelings and you'll see how much they have to contribute. The more I told them to behave, the less they wanted to contribute. See? You want to come back and read what folks want to say here...
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We want this board easy to read and keep people coming back and no one is telling people....not to express their feelings...? Just why not do it where the most people will see it and talk about it. |
I would prefer only one thread about Richie, this: https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-j...ambora-t70391/
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https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-j...e-tour-t55338/ |
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but that brings bad memories... lol |
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