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Thinny 06-24-2019 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ticos_stick (Post 1256252)
Do you mean that Jon won't think twice about touring without Tico?

Haha yes sorry!!

Captain_jovi 06-24-2019 05:41 PM

I disagree, I think he'd draw the line there. He knows how shot his voice is, I don't think he'd replace Tico for the sake of another tour.

Matrix15 06-24-2019 06:03 PM

I think the next album will be one of the last 'big' tours. I think they'll be back at least once to Europe and South America but we're getting to a point where it'll be only be Jon and Dave as original members soon.

On a more positive note, the new album might not be garbage. Jon seems to be reconciling himself to the fact that he can't sing high for 2.5 hrs anymore (hence the shorter sets). He might consign himself to writing songs that suit his register. Im talking "I will drive you home" style. Plus Jon seems to like that sing he's sang it a couple of times.

Jeeper 06-24-2019 06:25 PM

As mentioned, the Tico conundrum is a worry. I really wouldn’t want them to carry on without him.

Would shorter sets, an acoustic medley and song placement be enough to help him through another tour?

Maybe one show in England rather than multiple shows. Use that template across other countries. But would that be financially viable?


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Kova 06-24-2019 06:52 PM

A lot of posts talking about Tico's retirement, but I don't see any relevant info or link to fuel it. Just a mere speculation that someone started and now everyone is making a story out of it.

Highlander2010 06-24-2019 07:11 PM

To be honest I think if Tico did retire (though not sure if we have enough facts to suggest this is a possibility as of yet) and they continued to tour I would use that as my time to stop paying to see the live performance.

For me and I'm sure any others Tico is the absolute beating heart of the band and watching a younger replacement playing the songs just for the sake of having a body behind the drums to keep the machine rolling down the road wouldn't do it for me.

Whilst I've accepted Richie's departure as he has his reasons and I thoroughly enjoyed watching Phil X and think hes great there is a clear difference between replacing someone who left for personal reasons and replacing someone who is the cornerstone of the band who has left due to potential retirement etc.

After seeing the band in Dublin and London on this tour I fully went into Wembley telling myself that I need to make the most of this and fully enjoy the experience as I probably won't see them again but for me that assumption was based on the fact that we all know since forever Jon's big driving factor was that he wanted to be in the hall of fame and had "something to prove" and now that something isn't there anymore there really isn't any other need to keep the truck rolling longer than it needs to be.

Whilst I completely agree with everyone who said that the monetary side of tours may be too much to stop Jon from touring there has to be a point where the feedback/critics and circumstances tell him that vocally he just can't do it anymore and he becomes what he always said he doesn't want to be which is someone playing longer than they should of because they don't know when to quit whilst at the top.

Not sure about everyone else but I wouldn't be happy going to see a new tour with 1 song from the new unnamed album and then all of the same songs that we got again on this tour and nothing else or anything from the back catalogue.

thesedays2014 06-24-2019 07:42 PM

Acoustic Jon Bon Jovi and friends: TLFR type Jovi songs (or at least rearranged so he can sing them without almost dying in the process), DA songs, Stand Up Guy songs and new ‘no bullshit, trying to be relevant’ songs.

Thing is nobody seems to like that, so he’ll just do the same...poor guy 😭

ticos_stick 06-24-2019 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kova (Post 1256265)
A lot of posts talking about Tico's retirement, but I don't see any relevant info or link to fuel it. Just a mere speculation that someone started and now everyone is making a story out of it.

Tico looking exhausted and making mistakes is relevant enough to warrant a discussion on his future. Pretty much everyone that has gone to the shows have commented on it.

It's not like someone has decided to troll with making up rumours. It's eye witness observations.

rocknation 06-24-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tictoc (Post 1256247)
Tico is becoming an old man who is actually 70 (real age)

If their birth years of 1950 and 1953 are correct, Hugh will turn 69 and Tico 66 this year.

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Jon is basically a wreck who jumps around and smiles into nothingness every now and again which apparently means he's still a great showman...
Also known as Fat Elvis Syndrome.

So far, the tour has reminded me of an interview I watched with a 500-pound (225kg) woman: I couldn't pay attention to what she was saying because she was wheezing so much, I was certain that every breath she took would be her last.

I've watched nearly two hours' worth of the London and Coventry videos: I agree they are best-sounding and most energetic gigs, but I also agree that it most likely had to do with them being shorter -- allowing Jon (if not Tico) to depend less on pacing himself, as well as his allowing Phil and Shanks to co-front a little more. And it turns out that the ticket sales WEREN'T quite what they seemed? Bon Jovi's fate may end up being decided FOR them (especially since nobody's buying their music they way used to, either).

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He'll carry on as long as he can make a buck.
Right: apparently Mister "I'm Not Going To Be the Fat Elvis" has yet figure out that Elvis' weight was the least of his problems.

Tictoc 06-25-2019 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rocknation (Post 1256275)
If their birth years of 1953 and 1950 are correct, Tico will turn 66 and Hugh 69 this year.


Also known as Fat Elvis Syndrome.

So far, the tour has reminded me of an interview I watched with a 500-pound (225kg) woman: I couldn't pay attention to what she was saying because she was wheezing so much, I was certain that every breath she took would be her last.

I've watched nearly two hours' worth of the London and Coventry videos: I agree they are best-sounding and most energetic gigs, but I also agree that it most likely had to do with them being shorter -- allowing Jon (if not Tico) to depend less on pacing himself, as well as his allowing Phil and Shanks to co-front a little more. And it turns out that the ticket sales WEREN'T quite what they seemed? Bon Jovi's fate may end up being decided FOR them (especially since nobody's buying their music they way used to, either).

Right: apparently Mister "I'm Not Going To Be the Fat Elvis" has yet to take it into account that Elvis' weight was the least of his problems.

Tico was 50 in 2000. Which makes him 69. They fudged his age in the 80s to make it seem like the band were all of a similar age. His age and weight were something Doc Magee wanted him fired for remember?


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