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sammy645 10-17-2010 08:13 PM

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It's cute when kids develop fantasies about their heroes.
You know you should listen to some of Axls rants, you might learn how to probably insult someone that way. I mean seriously the best you can do is call me a kid? plzz

Now if i misunderstood you, well so what. The person that posted before said that Slash needs Axl, and then you posted about how he has no idea who the talent was in the band, obv implying that Axl was not as talent as the rest.
I mean if Slash and Duff and hell even matt, were the majority of the talent behind the band then shouldnt Velvet Revolver have released albums as good as Guns N' Roses did?

I'm just saying you have to give the devil his due

Supersonic 10-17-2010 08:26 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by sammy645 (Post 1019827)
You know you should listen to some of Axls rants, you might learn how to probably insult someone that way. I mean seriously the best you can do is call me a kid? plzz

Axl's so called rants are laughable and pointless. The rants he used to do back then only made it more obvious that the guy had issues with pretty much everything and always thought he was a victim of whatever the world could throw in his face.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Bleeding Purist 10-17-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy645 (Post 1019827)
I mean seriously the best you can do is call me a kid? plzz

It's not about what's best, it's about what's most fitting. You gave yourself away citing "Novemeber Rain' as an example of genius. It's an example of the power of MTV shoving crap down throats repeatedly until resignation is induced and their targets believe it's chocolate.

Recent generations have made GnR into legend, attempting to put them on par with The Doors and Led Zeppelin. It's just pathetic really.

SexxAtraxxion 10-17-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy645 (Post 1019827)
I mean if Slash and Duff and hell even matt, were the majority of the talent behind the band then shouldnt Velvet Revolver have released albums as good as Guns N' Roses did?

How many musicians can make music as good as in their heyday? None, not even Axl.

And Contraband is a decent record anyway.

Best regards,
the Sexx

Bleeding Purist 10-18-2010 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SexxAtraxxion (Post 1019841)
How many musicians can make music as good as in their heyday? None, not even Axl.

And Contraband is a decent record anyway.

Best regards,
the Sexx

I was going to address that as well. I'm not even sure it's about making music as good so much as it is about evolving and being creative. I think most people just get stuck on that first cherry breaker that got a grip on them... which is understandable. It's just always going to be a gamble when you do something completely different you'll always have one set of people dismissing it as crap and another set who "get it" and keep on riding with you.

I really don't want to see a reunion from them. It would be the same deal as KISS.... making the cash grab... not a band putting their chemistry to work and creating. I don't enjoy watching bands where they are on that stage thinking "God, I hate this f*cker." You pick up on that negative energy.

Javier 10-18-2010 05:16 AM

I was always leaning partially to Izzy's songs.....

C'monFeet 10-18-2010 08:37 PM

If you look down the writing credits for Appetite, it's pretty clear that in Musical terms, Izzy had the most influence over the band's early sound.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite_for_destruction

Though to try and single out one member as "the most talented" seems ****ing ridiculous*. They were the right five people, at the right time to create something that really mattered to people and have an impact.

Purist couldn't be more wrong, or more patronising, with his suggestion that GnR's success, and November Rain in particular, was due to MTV hype preventing people from exercising their crtitical faculties. People *loved* that band, it spread through word of mouth and it mattered in a way it's hard to picture today's bands ever achieving.

That it wasn't down to hype is proven by the simple fact that the song has *lasted* and still has power today.

* Clearly Axl

C'monFeet 10-18-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1019887)
I was going to address that as well. I'm not even sure it's about making music as good so much as it is about evolving and being creative.

You were saying VR evolve and are creative or New Guns?

C'monFeet 10-18-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Purist (Post 1019887)
I really don't want to see a reunion from them.

General rule of thumb is that if a reunion results in quality new music it's worth while. If it results in greatest hits shows and nothing else, it's shit.

Bleeding Purist 10-18-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by C'monFeet (Post 1019951)
You were saying VR evolve and are creative or New Guns?

Good to see you back, but think bigger. It's not just about any one band. It's a general rule.


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