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Captain_jovi 10-13-2020 04:33 PM

New Album Lyrical Discussion
 
Because the album is heavy in terms of racial issues, prejudices and political undertones I created this thread so we can talk about it openly without annoying people who would rather not.

Kukoc7 10-13-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1269349)
Because the album is heavy in terms of racial issues, prejudices and political undertones I created this thread so we can talk about it openly without annoying people who would rather not.

Nice move, mate. I support this.;)

JackieBlue 10-13-2020 04:50 PM

Good call! :)

Litneg 10-13-2020 11:10 PM

I don't know if this was asked before here, but can someone explain to me the "I'm the star of anarchy today" on Blood In The Water?

Until now I'm interpreting this literally, as Trump being the leader of chaos in our world, but I also found that there's a book called "Anarchy Today" and don't know if it's a reference to this.

GabrielC 10-13-2020 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1269364)
I don't know if this was asked before here, but can someone explain to me the "I'm the star of anarchy today" on Blood In The Water?

Until now I'm interpreting this literally, as Trump being the leader of chaos in our world, but I also found that there's a book called "Anarchy Today" and don't know if it's a reference to this.

I interpret that as a fictional disinformation "news" tabloid, as he says the traditional news got nothing new to say. But I may be far off, idk

bonjovi90 10-14-2020 12:41 AM

Can someone explain to me what "Let It Rain" stands for? Is it meant as a metaphor for all the social judgement/injustice out there etc that's hammering in via the media? Or is it some sort of saying that I haven't heard of?
And is that "hard rain" reference in Brothers In Arms meant to go in the same direction?

Supersonic 10-14-2020 06:06 AM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1269366)
Can someone explain to me what "Let It Rain" stands for? Is it meant as a metaphor for all the social judgement/injustice out there etc that's hammering in via the media? Or is it some sort of saying that I haven't heard of?
And is that "hard rain" reference in Brothers In Arms meant to go in the same direction?

I think it's referring to Bukake.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

eddie73 10-14-2020 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1269369)
Aloha !



I think it's referring to Bukake.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Best one yet .....that's tickled me lol

Johny 10-14-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1269364)
I don't know if this was asked before here, but can someone explain to me the "I'm the star of anarchy today" on Blood In The Water?

Until now I'm interpreting this literally, as Trump being the leader of chaos in our world, but I also found that there's a book called "Anarchy Today" and don't know if it's a reference to this.

I tried to analyse this in Blood In The Water thread. The whole bridge is narrated from a different, ironical viewpoint showing how some things work in today's society.

Johny 10-14-2020 01:46 PM

It kinda bothers me that when I start a thread for a certain song and try to discuss the lyrics, I get only two or three replies and then people rather go on camparing Shanks to Phil.

And now it works here. :D

I'd second Dominik's question about Let It Rain. Basically Jon uses it as methaphor for bad things happening to somene that he doesn't deserve or they aren't his fault.
Here it may refer to something more specific.

Litneg 10-14-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1269366)
Can someone explain to me what "Let It Rain" stands for? Is it meant as a metaphor for all the social judgement/injustice out there etc that's hammering in via the media? Or is it some sort of saying that I haven't heard of?
And is that "hard rain" reference in Brothers In Arms meant to go in the same direction?

I see both rains as some sort of the "movement" from American Reckoning that Jon believes it's happening. Something like "let the rain fall and the waters wash away all our sins, all our prejudices, all that pre-judgement over others actions. When it finally purifies our souls 'that day you know what all of this [fights] were for... Let it rain'."

Litneg 10-14-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1269375)
I tried to analyse this in Blood In The Water thread. The whole bridge is narrated from a different, ironical viewpoint showing how some things work in today's society.

Yeah, the first verse is about Trump's administration; the second and third about the lyrical speaker and the bridge is Trump speaking. But I don't get if there's something behind the "I'm the star of anarchy today" part.

Johny 10-14-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1269381)
Yeah, the first verse is about Trump's administration; the second and third about the lyrical speaker and the bridge is Trump speaking. But I don't get if there's something behind the "I'm the star of anarchy today" part.

I don't know about other countries but I guess it'sll be the same. Here we have some extremist people who get inspired on various websites. Usually Russian-paid and supported websites that inform people on their own way.
So "I'm the star of Anarchy Today" is said by someone who follows such website/online newspaper and who a frequent commentator in the comments section. We have such people here who "starts" of comments sections.

Litneg 10-15-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1269382)
I don't know about other countries but I guess it'sll be the same. Here we have some extremist people who get inspired on various websites. Usually Russian-paid and supported websites that inform people on their own way.
So "I'm the star of Anarchy Today" is said by someone who follows such website/online newspaper and who a frequent commentator in the comments section. We have such people here who "starts" of comments sections.

So "your shadow sold you secrets and he's gonna do some time" is about Michael Cohen.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/cultur...mpression=true

jovifan93 10-21-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1269381)
Yeah, the first verse is about Trump's administration; the second and third about the lyrical speaker and the bridge is Trump speaking. But I don't get if there's something behind the "I'm the star of anarchy today" part.

Hmm, in my book Trump is an anarchist meets dictator, so in my mind the whole bridge is Trump talking, yeah.

"I'm no cable news reporter, they got nothing new to say" -> the fake news shit, his disliking of reporters, etc.

"I'm the voice of the new order, the star of anarchy today" -> his putting himself over everyone else, believing that only his views are correct, etc.

"I'm the comments you keep reading at the bottom of the page" -> his tweets

"I'm real power, I'm a patriot" -> how he thinks of himself and repeatedly states in public

"I'm a russian hack by trade" -> him knowing he's only been elected because of some russian hackers (not that that's proven by any account, but I'd like to believe it's true :-D)


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