Self Titled & 7800 Degrees Fahrenheit
I think these two albums are awesome. We all know Jon blackballed them. Not 100% sure why. Maybe b/ he doesn't like the song writing and feels it's amateurish. Or because he felt like a puppet to his record/management company. But I'm an old school fan and I think there are really awesome songs on these albums.
My top 3 from each: Silent Night - (the slowed down live version is awesome) The Hardest Part Is The Night Only Lonely She Don't Know Me - Jon didn't write but awesome song. Roulette Shot Through The Heart I'd take an album like this over any 2000+ album. Jons voice and energy in each song alone is worth a request like that. |
I really dig them both!!!
Apart from Runaway, songs like Shot Through The Heart, Burning For Love, Come Back, In And Out Of Love, Only Lonely, Silent Night, Tokyo Road, Hardest Part Is The Night are awesome - pure rock songs, the passion and the energy were there. Something I miss today. And yes, I have a special spot for Price Of Love. I loved the song so much when I bought the album (I was 13 I guess) and I know I have or had some great memories, but I don't know them now - everytime I hear that song, I have this strange and nice feeling about something nice in the past and I don't know what it was... |
I think 'Bon Jovi' is a very good album.
However, 7800 blows it out the water for me. 7800 was the original material of darker songs and atmosphere, and I think 'Silent Night' is an amazing song, just like the rest of the album. Only low points in my opinion are 'Secret Dreams' and '(I Don't Wanna Fall) To The Fire'. Will probably end up being my favourite album. |
Love both albums. The farenheit one is fourth in my list of favorite Bon Jovi albums.
Personally I just dont like in the Farenheit album "I Dont Wanna Fall To The Fire" and "King Of The Mountain". Hardest Part Is The Night, Tokyo Road, Always Run To You, Silent Night, In & Out Of love and Only Lonely are fantastic. I dare say that I consider Silent Night better than Never Say Goodbye, and that the song is probably the second best ballad of the 80's just next to I'll Be There For You. Im still hoping that they play something more than Runaway from these two albums. Gotta keep the faith :p |
I prefer the self titles over 7800, but theyre still both amazing albums.
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Seriously, does no one except me like To The Fire?
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Never really been a fan of either of them. As an album I prefer the debut, but honestly there are no real standout tracks on it IMO. As for 7800*, I'm just really not a fan. It's got some good songwriting, but I really think it's way overrated around here. That being said, Tokyo Road is one of my ABSOLUTE favorite Jovi songs.
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I like 'To The Fire', Captain, but it's one of my least favourites. I had to criticise the album somewhat(even though it doesn't deserve it. Perfect album).
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I allso love Tokyo Road. I had a toy, a little plastic elephant that could play that intro from the song, ahahah... that was sick. :D I think I could find that toy, I saved it somwhere.
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I never liked the debut album that much. It's my least favourite of all, don't know why. It has some cool tracks though, and the songs kicked ass live. That goes for Fahrenheit as well. Today they just wouldn't fit into the setlists, I'm OK with them resting. The only song that I think could work (besides "Runaway") would be "Tokyo Road", I'd really like to hear that one live!
My favourite tracks: BON JOVI: Runaway (timeless) Shot Through The Heart (awesome) Breakout (live version from Tokyo 1985 is amazing) / Roulette Actually all of the live versions kicked ass. Something of the album version bothers me, don't know what though. FAHRENHEIT: Tokyo Road (monster song, especially the version from Rio 1990) Only Lonely (great lyrics, great melody) King Of The Mountain (just because noone likes it ;-)) I always liked the poduction and the songs. You can feel the passion of the band, and how they believed it would be full of hit singles, while it's obvious they were still struggling to find their own unique sound. Really charming and full of good ideas. |
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The only song on Fahrenheit I don't like so much is "Secret Dreams", but it kinda grew on me. |
I like them both because they are raw and have a lot of energy. I do think certain songs on them are a little cheesy compared to the stuff they wrote in the latter 80s/early 90s but musically a lot of the songs are quite strong. I probably prefer the first album out the two as I think songs such as Roulette, Runaway, Get Ready, Shot Through The Heart and Love Lies are all good pop/rock songs. 7800 has always been kinda weak for me, with the exception of Tokyo Road, Price of Love and In and Out Of Love. King of The Mountain is shite, and I ain't a big fan of Always Run To You and To The Fire. I think they did right getting Desmond Child in to help them write Slippery.
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Ive always liked 7800. Only Lonely, King of the Mountain, Hardest Part is the Night and of course Always Run to You.
The debut I dont like as much but it still has some awesome tracks. Roulette is my favourite, followed by Love Lies and Get Ready. |
I like 7800 because of Richie's guitar work. No other album sounds like it. Prehaps he was just a young guitarist trying to show off his skills, but he reels off notes faster than he ever did after on that album.
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Love the first two albums.
7800 for me edges it although To the Fire and King of the mountain are poor and could be the same song! Other than that love all the tracks on 7800 especially Secret Dreams & The Price Of Love |
how can anyone not like hardest part is the night? that is pure class. and indeed there are many gems on the first two records. i think the debut is slightly better myself though.
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Still, I love Fahrenheit. In the eighties, at a time, it was my favorite Bon Jovi album. There are some obvious fillers and it is evident those 10 songs were the only ones they actually had (like Jon has more recently stated). But speaking of pure hard rock, it doesn´t get better than In & Out Of Love. The chorus may be Heaven´s On Fire recycled but this song kicks ass like no other song -ever. The sadness and melancholy on Only Lonely and Price of Love are quite unique, too. At that time, the characteristic Bon Jovi optimism was yet to come. Nowadays, they don´t write songs like that anymore. |
I have to say Farenheit edges it but a great album can be created from taking some fron debut and some from 7800,one thing that does sound cool is that In and out of love wouldnt feel out of place on modern radio-with its synth hooks and sound.
Silent night is a true classic in my mind |
Like all the albums they go up and down in my opinion, but I'm listening to the first album now and it's good.
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I used to listen a lot to the first record when I had just become a fan in early 2006. Loved it immensly then. Nowadays I barely put the CD in, I still like some songs like Shot Through The Heart, Runaway and Burning For Love very much, but the rest isn't really my cup of tea anymore.
With Fahrenheit it's just the other way around. I wasn't a fan of it in the beginning, but it certainly grew on me and I listen to it regularly the last month. Some of the production is screwed up as songs like The Hardest Part Is The Night or Silent Night sounded a million times better live IMO. Also Only Lonely. The performance of Frankfurt '85 blows the studio version out of the water, just like many others do. But I'm a fan of catchy riffs, especially keyboard riffs, and this album has just fantastic and catchy hooks! I don't know why, but Secret Dreams and Price of Love have just something really special for me - shame they were never done live! |
As also discussed in the "Hey God" thread in the Tour-section, Obie promised songs from "Fahrenheit" on the next tour.
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Best regards, the Sexx |
Can't believe they're gunna play some 7800 on this tour!! Just saw Obie mention it, my dreams may actually come true this tour finally lol
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Come on, come on... GET READY!!! ;)
Just listening to self titled. Can't beat a bit of raw pop rock before going out. :D |
Both good to great albums. While the debut has not too many fillers 7800 has the first real classics like IAOOL or OL. I wish they would not be so ashamed of their past (especially Jon). Other bands are proud of their back catalogue - BJ are not. Sad somehow....
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Slippery When Wet and New Jersey are played heavily because it's their legacy. I'm pretty sure Jon wouldn't play them if they didn't sell a shitload of records. Jon prefers the 00s albums. Bon Jovi can't sellout arenas/stadiums without playing their Hair Metal songs. Best regards. |
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The first album is totally awesome. There is no weak track at all.
7800 is ok, some good songs but there are a couple of real turds there. |
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In all seriousness, I absolutely do think that songs off of 7800 (IAOOL, Only Lonely, and (in my dreams) Tokyo Road) should be played, but the bottom line is that, no matter how good or bad we think they are, those albums are a small part of their legacy at this point. |
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I understand that Jon doesn't want to be a nostalgia act - but the older they and their fans get the more the old songs will be desired. BJ won't release classics like NJ or SWW anymore... |
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Thier peers are not Bryan Adams, Springsteen or U2, their peers are Poison, Def Leppard, Crüe, etc. To this day, they still deny it. That's why they are a joke for the music critics and Rolling Stone. Best regards. |
What's wrong with hair metal?? They're crazy..
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As every music genre, there will be good and bad bands. Bon Jovi was one, and they had talent. You can't change the past. Best regards. |
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