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sambos apprentice 06-26-2012 12:36 AM

i can mind hearing that Des Child wrote the pre-chorus. that was his input.

Jon thought the song sucked and richie had come up with the chord progression on the piano.

ZB_ 06-26-2012 10:01 AM

Rich man living in a poor man's house - Learning to fly by Tom Petty

The same song...

kleman 06-26-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1084945)
Nothing to see here. All bands have influences and some songs sound very similar to others. There's only so many strings on a guitar and so many keys on a piano.

Yeah i agree and i don't know what quiz do they play....:D
Its just a stupid tread, topic....

Supersonic 06-26-2012 02:57 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonJovi100 (Post 1084913)
Seb asked to show other band who have so many influences song as BJ... so for exampleLed Zeppelin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvLs...eature=related

or Metallica (they ripped many more)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCDgMpiBkzs

Billions of people think that Metallica made riff for "Ender Sandman but it's just ripped from Excel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF-k0QmSwik

Some original versions of BIGGEST worlds hits. Listen before reading who ripped thats songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aymfX...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfxx3scAKS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uEMOeDZsA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxDPUEpLVsE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUdOqmEep3A


Many of biggest hits have "influences" from others artists fFor Example:
1 - Hotel California / 2 - My Sweet Lord / 3 - Ghostbuste / 4 - Surfin USA / 5 - Anybody Seen My Baby

It's all very well what you're posting but none of the songs you posted are from the same artist. If one artist has 1 or 2 songs that sound the same like another, you could call it a co-incidence. If 1 artist has a whole list of songs which sound a lot more similar than just a riff here and there, it's stealing. I was well aware of several songs you listed and I'm not denying there are similarities, but because people said how every artist does it, to come up with an example that has at least 10-20 songs that are copied from others.

Quote:

Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1084945)
Nothing to see here. All bands have influences and some songs sound very similar to others. There's only so many strings on a guitar and so many keys on a piano.

That's a bullshit excuse and doesn't really make sense. It's got nothing to do with "there's only so many strings out there". It doesn't make sense at all, if possibilities were that limited all artists would do sound the same. In several examples Jon didn't just steal the chord progression, no he stole it to the exact timing and exact beat of the original. Besides, if what you're saying were true, why is it that the stuff Jon, according to you does not steal from, happens to be the same stuff he listens to or was either popular at the time it was written?

There's loads of people that never hear the similarities to other songs until you start singing the direct melody over it. Fans said people were crazy for comparing Bells Of Freedom to This Ain't A Love Song, because THEY'RE SO DIFFERENT! OMG!" Put all the closes of It's My Life on 1 CD and many will think they heard 15 different songs.

However, if because you don't hear it therefore won't accept that they are to someone else, or just refuse to accept how Bon Jovi are far from as creative as they'd like to pretend they are you're missing out a whole lot in music in general. Now I know it helps if you play guitar, or any other instrument for that matter, because you at some times develop a musical ear for this, but saying it's all a co-incidence is saying the same for everything the Chinese copy from the western world.

http://repairpaintcar.com/wp-content...cSRX_thumb.jpg

The left one is Bon Jovi, the right one is Tom Petty. "There's only so much you can do with 4 wheels", right?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

PanosBonJovi 06-26-2012 04:59 PM

I don't know if you are just stupid or you are actually trolling around. Useless topic.

Haja 06-26-2012 05:05 PM

Led Zeppelin are well-known for stealing many of the songs they call their own. They were also sued for doing this many times so at least Bon Jovi is being less blatant than them with stealing.

Because I'm lazy I just copied this list from some website.

"Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
"Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
"Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
"Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
"Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
"Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
"Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
"How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
"In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
"The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
"Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
"Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
"Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
"Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
"White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
"Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."

source: http://www.warr.org/zep.html

Yeah. That should be close to about 20 songs and that's only the blatant ones.

Supersonic 06-26-2012 05:26 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanosBonJovi (Post 1085202)
I don't know if you are just stupid or you are actually trolling around. Useless topic.

Your input in this discussion is just as appreciated as the input of Greece in the European Union, pretty much for the exact reasons as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haja (Post 1085203)
Led Zeppelin are well-known for stealing many of the songs they call their own. They were also sued for doing this many times so at least Bon Jovi is being less blatant than them with stealing.

Because I'm lazy I just copied this list from some website.

"Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
"Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.
"Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
"Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
"Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
"Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).
"Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
"How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
"In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
"The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
"Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.
"Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
"Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
"Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.
"White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
"Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."

source: http://www.warr.org/zep.html

Yeah. That should be close to about 20 songs and that's only the blatant ones.

Thank you, this is all what I was asking for. After all the "Everyone does it" rubbish this is the first clear example of a band ripping off other music. I'm going to have a listen to these later on and see how they match eachother. :)

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

danfan 06-26-2012 06:57 PM

Seb, you've got WAY too much time on your hands.

Supersonic 06-26-2012 07:10 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1085209)
Seb, you've got WAY too much time on your hands.

I won't deny that for a minute.

That said, what makes you think so? It's not as if I'm looking online for similarities all the time, all of the examples I listed stem from a first listen to any of the songs. I have a feeling you're not even hearing half of them and are therefore dismissing anything that's being said that indicates that not all Bon Jovi songs are so Bon Jovi after all. I started with 12, then added 8 more examples just from the people that post here. I don't understand why, if you're a Bon Jovi fan, or just a music fan in general, you wouldn't be more interested in what else is out there that have helped building up Bon Jovi's legacy. Is it reluctancy? Is it ignorance? I don't get it.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

danfan 06-26-2012 07:35 PM

I just don't care. If I like the music, that's all that matters to me.


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