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Arash 07-14-2008 03:53 PM

The Dark Knight
 
Today is the official premiere of The Dark Knight, and only a couple of days until the worldwide release. I made this thread so everyone who watches it can post their review and thoughts and stuff about the movie here. I personally can't wait to see it! Let the discussion begins!

PS. The siggy is back, Alex. :)

*edited to make the title clearer*

Thomas Anderson 07-14-2008 07:48 PM

...and I think it only opens here on the 24th, so I'll probably go a week after that to see it for my birthday - might treat myself and nip to Manchester to see it on IMAX :D

Goldsausage 07-14-2008 07:53 PM

I hated Batman Begins but I'm looking forward to this. I love phychotic characters so this should be real good :D

Supersonic 07-14-2008 08:08 PM

Aloha !

This movie is going to be so ****ing sweet, just look at the reviews at rottentomatoes.com

Still, even with me being a student and having so much free time lately it's a bitch to keep up with all those websites. :(

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Originally Posted by Goldsausage II (Post 864473)
I hated Batman Begins

Idiot.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Alex 07-14-2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Arash (Post 864238)
PS. The siggy is back, Alex. :)

Yay! You rock :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldsausage II (Post 864473)
I hated Batman Begins

And you suck :(

Goldsausage 07-14-2008 08:09 PM

OH NO! Damn, I forgot about that law that says I must like Batman Begins.

Supersonic 07-14-2008 08:19 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Goldsausage II (Post 864484)
OH NO! Damn, I forgot about that law that says I must like Batman Begins.

That's no excuse. You're still an idiot.

Batman Begins rules. Period. End of discussion.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

crashed 07-14-2008 09:05 PM

Batman Begins was pretty much the best Batman movie made.

And this looks better!

Arash 07-14-2008 10:15 PM

I read on IMDB which was reporting from Rolling Stone that Heath Ledger is being considerd for an oscar.

alonso14 07-14-2008 11:00 PM

Its actually got some bad reviews now on RT :( 89' Batman has only got a 69% on there although I love it, so dont really take much notice of that.

Most of the negatives of the film are centered around it being too dark (which is ridicolous as the point of it is to be dark and show even more the events that shape Batman to become the man he is) and that it is too long.

slippery89 07-14-2008 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 864482)
Aloha !

This movie is going to be so ****ing sweet, just look at the reviews at rottentomatoes.com

Still, even with me being a student and having so much free time lately it's a bitch to keep up with all those websites. :(



Idiot.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Who cares about the reviews, if this movie got slaughter in the reviews I was still going to go see it anyways. I'm the ****ing review, along with the people. You won't know if you like a movie until you actually see it for yourself. You won't like a certain food until you try it for yourself, get me?

slippery89 07-14-2008 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldsausage II (Post 864473)
I hated Batman Begins but I'm looking forward to this. I love phychotic characters so this should be real good :D

Same here didn't like it, but the storyline was pretty good about how batman became batman but the villians were horrible. I was always for the villians and not the heroes.

slippery89 07-14-2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Arash (Post 864238)
Today is the official premiere of The Dark Knight, and only a couple of days until the worldwide release. I made this thread so everyone who watches it can post their review and thoughts and stuff about the movie here. I personally can't wait to see it! Let the discussion begins!

PS. The siggy is back, Alex. :)

*edited to make the title clearer*

Damn, you beat me to it I was just getting ready to make this thread. This movie is going to be so ****ing awesome mainly because Joker looks so ****ing cool. I was always for the villians.

RSROCKS 07-15-2008 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Arash (Post 864620)
I read on IMDB which was reporting from Rolling Stone that Heath Ledger is being considerd for an oscar.

I read that too and wouldn't be surprised if he does win the Oscar. I saw Michael Caine predicted he got the nod too!

Can't wait to see it!

kenobi_on_a_prayer 07-16-2008 09:01 AM

Confession time. I've never had any interest in Batman.

On the other hand it might be illegal to be the only person from Perth not to go see Heath's last film.

Hmmm...

RSROCKS 07-16-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kenobi_on_a_prayer (Post 866173)
On the other hand it might be illegal to be the only person from Perth not to go see Heath's last film.

Hmmm...

If nothing more, I think that's a strong enough reason to go see it ;)

Mousebounce 07-20-2008 05:09 AM

**Spoiler Alert**

Do not read as this contains some information about what happens in the movie.










I saw it tonight, and I am sad to say that I didn't like it at all. I know everyone is raving about it, but I thought it was too long because they tried to cram way too much into one movie. The entire Two Face storyline should have been removed as it just made the plot convoluted in my opinion. The editors didn't do a great job at editing this movie. A lot could have been removed which would have actually improved it.

Not to mention that I know super hero movies aren't supposed to be realistic, but that entire wi fi thingy, where Batman can see and hear what is going on in all of Gotham was wayyyy out there. In the first Batman you could kind of believe what he was capable of, but they made him do way too many far out things in this movie.

As for Heath Ledger, I can't see him winning any awards for this role although that is all the buzz right now. He was great, don't get me wrong, but award winning is going a bit far. Maggie Gyllenhaal sucked as the "girlfriend." I think my frying pan has more personality than her. First Katie Holmes and now her. They need to find a decent leading lady.

I would give it two out of five stars. The special effects are amazing. Christian Bale rules as Batman, but it was needlessly long with a crappy plot. Heck, I even found myself a bit bored at times. It was a disappointment to say the least.




This reviewer summed it up nicely so I will steal it.

It simply boils down to a matter of taste (for the theatrical). I preferred Batman Begins over The Dark Knight. Nolan's introductory film embraced explanations, took time with its mythology, accepted the character's limitations and established the boundaries of Batman's fictional world. Dark Knight builds on that foundation, for sure, but thrusts ever forward when all I really wanted it to do was stop for a second and soak in the glorious chaos.

Crushgen24/88 07-20-2008 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 867183)
**Spoiler Alert**

Do not read as this contains some information about what happens in the movie.










I saw it tonight, and I am sad to say that I didn't like it at all. I know everyone is raving about it, but I thought it was too long because they tried to cram way too much into one movie. The entire Two Face storyline should have been removed as it just made the plot convoluted in my opinion. The editors didn't do a great job at editing this movie. A lot could have been removed which would have actually improved it.

Not to mention that I know super hero movies aren't supposed to be realistic, but that entire wi fi thingy, where Batman can see and hear what is going on in all of Gotham was wayyyy out there. In the first Batman you could kind of believe what he was capable of, but they made him do way too many far out things in this movie.

As for Heath Ledger, I can't see him winning any awards for this role although that is all the buzz right now. He was great, don't get me wrong, but award winning is going a bit far. Maggie Gyllenhaal sucked as the "girlfriend." I think my frying pan has more personality than her. First Katie Holmes and now her. They need to find a decent leading lady.

I would give it two out of five stars. The special effects are amazing. Christian Bale rules as Batman, but it was needlessly long with a crappy plot. Heck, I even found myself a bit bored at times. It was a disappointment to say the least.

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LOL, I hate to be a dick, but I disagree with almost everything in your review.
Let me preface this by saying that I am A HUGE COMIC BOOK reader. I own over a thousand comics, and have been reading them since I was about 5. I've seen practically every film ever based in the genre, and I can honestly say that Dark Knight was the best film to ever come out of it by far. I'm VERY tired at the moment, but I intend to write up a full review tomorrow and post it here.

Arash 07-20-2008 02:12 PM

Only 2 days of its premiere and this movie has reached #1 on IMDB's top 250 films, with a rating of 9.7/10. Impressive.

I so want to watch this movie, but it will be months before i can get to it. I still haven't seen Indy 4 :(

Mousebounce 07-20-2008 03:19 PM

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LOL, I hate to be a dick, but I disagree with almost everything in your review.
Hahah...of course you are entitled to your opinion. I know I am in the minority and I wanted to love it. I really did. :(

LozLovesBonJovi 07-20-2008 07:51 PM

I so cannot wait to watch The Dark Knight! I may even have to beg to be taken to our nearest Vue to watch it on the night of its release (Thurs in the uk)!! I loved Batman Begins! I really did! And the trailer for this film looks awesome! Not to mention how much its made already and that its 9.7/10!!
I also love Nolan's The Prestige, with some of the same actors in it - Michael Caine and Christian Bale! So, ...it should be pretty awesome!! :D

Crushgen24/88 07-21-2008 12:05 AM

They FINALLY got it....

(There are spoilers here)


Most of you know this already, but in case you don't know, I've been reading comics since I was five years old, and own over a thousand of them at this rate. In addition to that, I've probably seen every Hollywood film that's ever been related to the genre. Now, with all that being said I can honestly say that "The Dark Knight" is the absolute best of them all. First and foremost, the story is not a "superhero" story (though it is broken up like a comic book story-arc), in the traditional sense. Rather it's a crime story, that happens to use characters such as Batman, much in the same way as the brilliant Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale graphic novel "The Long Halloween." Speaking of Batman, Christian Bale has perfected his Bruce Wayne. He really captures the tortured resolve that should always drive the character. Gary Oldman is terrific as Jim Gordon. Aaron Eckhart delivers a knockout performance as Harvey Dent/Two-Face, who is perhaps the most important character in the film. It's Dent that represents what Batman can never become, at first he's the public hero, the hope, that Bruce can never be. Later on in the film he represents the opposite end of what Batman can never become, driven mad by vengeance, he abandons any sense of morality. Speaking of Dent's vengeance, Maggie Gyllenhaal delivers a respectable performance as Rachel Dawes. While the character is still nothing to write home about, but she's better then the wooden Katie Holmes. I'm saving the best for last here in Heath Ledger. It's a shame that Heath's death is fueling speculation for an Oscar nod, because he would deserve it no matter what. His Joker is truly riveting. Is he Jack Nicholson? No. Nicholson's joker is a totally different interpretation, a great one, but a different one in a different film.
Ledger nails down the psychotic, twisted nature of the Joker, and both he and Bale seem to have a perfect understanding of the dichotomy between Batman and the Joker. The film was outstanding both standing by itself, and it truly treated the medium with respect. Between this and Iron Man, 2008 has been a hell of a year for comic movies. If only DC and Marvel could do as well.....

slippery89 07-21-2008 06:14 AM

THIS MOVIE IS WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!! This movie is worth watching just for the Joker. My heart goes out to his family and especially his daughter, his performance was just so amazing. All of the Oscar buzz for Heath Ledger is right on, and he sure as hell should win it. this movie was everything that I thought it would be and more EVERYONE GO SEE THIS MOVIE!!!!

slippery89 07-21-2008 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 867183)
**Spoiler Alert**

Do not read as this contains some information about what happens in the movie.










I saw it tonight, and I am sad to say that I didn't like it at all. I know everyone is raving about it, but I thought it was too long because they tried to cram way too much into one movie. The entire Two Face storyline should have been removed as it just made the plot convoluted in my opinion. The editors didn't do a great job at editing this movie. A lot could have been removed which would have actually improved it.

Not to mention that I know super hero movies aren't supposed to be realistic, but that entire wi fi thingy, where Batman can see and hear what is going on in all of Gotham was wayyyy out there. In the first Batman you could kind of believe what he was capable of, but they made him do way too many far out things in this movie.

As for Heath Ledger, I can't see him winning any awards for this role although that is all the buzz right now. He was great, don't get me wrong, but award winning is going a bit far. Maggie Gyllenhaal sucked as the "girlfriend." I think my frying pan has more personality than her. First Katie Holmes and now her. They need to find a decent leading lady.

I would give it two out of five stars. The special effects are amazing. Christian Bale rules as Batman, but it was needlessly long with a crappy plot. Heck, I even found myself a bit bored at times. It was a disappointment to say the least.




This reviewer summed it up nicely so I will steal it.

It simply boils down to a matter of taste (for the theatrical). I preferred Batman Begins over The Dark Knight. Nolan's introductory film embraced explanations, took time with its mythology, accepted the character's limitations and established the boundaries of Batman's fictional world. Dark Knight builds on that foundation, for sure, but thrusts ever forward when all I really wanted it to do was stop for a second and soak in the glorious chaos.

I disagree with everything you said. First off Heath winning an oscar is not too much he was amazing and deserves it. The whole thing about Batman hearing people throughout the whole city isn't hard to believe because the government does it. If you don't know there is a big o satellite above all of our heads and the goverenment spys on all of us including you, they can tap into your little phone conversations with your mommy. If you want to talk about unrealistic movies try watching Wanted there are just alot of YEAH RIGHTS in there. I think the plot was great, and I'm not sure if you completely understand what The Joker's part in this movie is because if you did the plot would make a whole lot of sense. I thought Batman Begins wasn't all that good, it just kind of dragged for me. Another reason for not liking the first one was because it was just mre focused on Bruce becoming Batman and it was just ugh for me and not any decent villians. In all this is just my opinion.

Mousebounce 07-21-2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

I disagree with everything you said. First off Heath winning an oscar is not too much he was amazing and deserves it. The whole thing about Batman hearing people throughout the whole city isn't hard to believe because the government does it. If you don't know there is a big o satellite above all of our heads and the goverenment spys on all of us including you, they can tap into your little phone conversations with your mommy. If you want to talk about unrealistic movies try watching Wanted there are just alot of YEAH RIGHTS in there. I think the plot was great, and I'm not sure if you completely understand what The Joker's part in this movie is because if you did the plot would make a whole lot of sense. I thought Batman Begins wasn't all that good, it just kind of dragged for me. Another reason for not liking the first one was because it was just mre focused on Bruce becoming Batman and it was just ugh for me and not any decent villians. In all this is just my opinion.
Heath was amazing, but he didn't have the material to win an Oscar for this. If he was the main focus of the movie, without Two Face, perhaps it would be different. As far as the spying thing goes, you don't have one single person looking after 30 million people. That is just stupid. I understand the Joker's part in it, and feel it was strong enough of a part where he should have been the main focus as the villain. Plus, Batman himself was reduced to a supporting role in the film which I also did not like. One last minor detail is Batman's voice. What the heck happened to it? It doesn't sound realistic and almost computer generated. All in all I feel like they tried to jam way too much into 2 1/2 hours and the plot suffered for it.

Crushgen24/88 07-21-2008 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 867564)
Heath was amazing, but he didn't have the material to win an Oscar for this. If he was the main focus of the movie,

That's why he'd be up for "Best Supporting Actor"
As for cramming to much into the plot, I disagree. I think everything in the plot was their for a reason, and the Dent/Batman/Joker triangle is probably the most important element in the movie. To each their own though.

Mousebounce 07-22-2008 01:20 AM

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"Best Supporting Actor"
Possibly. Hey, I hope he wins due to what happened, but I couldn't see him winning if it wasn't for what happened. Hehe..if that make sense. There just wasn't enough for him in the movie to warrant it is all I am trying to say.

I love the Joker, and I feel like he could have carried this movie on his own without all of the added drama. I know why it was there, but I just think it could have been saved for a lesser villain.

slippery89 07-23-2008 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousebounce (Post 867656)
Possibly. Hey, I hope he wins due to what happened, but I couldn't see him winning if it wasn't for what happened. Hehe..if that make sense. There just wasn't enough for him in the movie to warrant it is all I am trying to say.

I love the Joker, and I feel like he could have carried this movie on his own without all of the added drama. I know why it was there, but I just think it could have been saved for a lesser villain.

No, not for me, may he rest in peace, but even he was still alive he would still deserve an Oscar his perfromance was still amazing. Heath Ledger has created one of the greatest villians along the lines with Anthony Hopkins Hannibal Lector.

LozLovesBonJovi 07-23-2008 09:26 PM

Going to see The Dark Knight next tuesday night!! Not the earliest i could see it, but never mind!! I'm gonna book tickets and see it!!! :D :D

alonso14 07-24-2008 09:08 PM

Lived up to what I hoped for, great story, great action, Joker was amazing, quickest 2h30mins of my life.:D

mo_rizwan 07-24-2008 09:25 PM

I'm actually seeing it on the 17th of next month on IMAX :)

Hate waiting, but I guess for IMAX, it's worth it 8)

alonso14 07-24-2008 10:23 PM

I watched it at a normal Odeon today, going to the IMAX in Manchester to see it though next week.

Peterson 07-25-2008 03:42 PM

Saw the film last night, loved it.

I watched Batman Begins on Wednesday night for the first time and have to say The Dark Knight was so much better.

My only moan about it is Morgan Freemans Character, Lucius Fox, seemed like a complete rip off of 'Q' from the bond films.

mo_rizwan 07-25-2008 06:29 PM

Just watched it at my Local (I knew I couldn't resist waiting)

I can't make a comparison to the first one until I see it again (on IMAX)

I would say that the Two-Face storyline should've been scrapped.

Mousebounce 07-25-2008 06:46 PM

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I would say that the Two-Face storyline should've been scrapped.
I am not alone! Hooray!

Crushgen24/88 07-25-2008 07:20 PM

I don't understand how anyone can think the Two-Face plot can be scrapped.
The Two-Face plot IS the movie. I'm not trying to "call you guys out" or anything, but Dent's transformation is the point of the movie, the ultimate representation of how Batman and the Joker are battling for the soul of Gotham.

mo_rizwan 07-25-2008 09:49 PM

If Two-Face had to be included in THIS franchise, they should've saved him for Part 3.

IMO, it was a bit too much to have Him AND The Joker for this sequel.

Oh, and one more thing; I may have missed something, but what was the Storyline behind the Scarecrow in this film? Was it even played by the same person?

Peterson 07-25-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mo_rizwan (Post 868506)
Oh, and one more thing; I may have missed something, but what was the Storyline behind the Scarecrow in this film? Was it even played by the same person?


I just watched Batman Begins on weds night and the guy that played him certainly looked the same.

Mousebounce 07-25-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mo_rizwan (Post 868506)
If Two-Face had to be included in THIS franchise, they should've saved him for Part 3.

That is exactly what I think too. The Joker didn't need anyone else. He should have been the star attraction.

alonso14 07-25-2008 11:45 PM

Two Face had to be in the film. In my opinion the film is centered around Dents rise and fall, with Batman and the Jokers part in it. I thought it was a great theme to centre the action around and he also made a great villain at the end. The scene with Gordons family was brilliant I thought, it created a very tense ending and the consequences of Dents transformation/actions and there effect on Batman set up some great possibilities for a 3rd film.


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