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Stut 06-13-2005 10:41 PM

Jurors reach verdict in Jackson trial -> Guilty or not?
 
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/13/ja...ial/index.html

The announcement came after about 32 hours of deliberations.

The verdict will be read at 1:45 p.m. (4:45 p.m. ET). The one-hour delay in delivering the verdict allows Jackson time to arrive at the Santa Maria courthouse.

He has been awaiting the verdict at his Neverland Ranch.

Earlier Monday, jurors requested the continuation of the reading of the teen accuser's lengthy testimony, sources close to the case said. The accuser was on the stand for four days in March.

The arrival of the verdict came as attorneys for media outlets, including CNN, awaited a hearing on a motion filed with the court Monday. Plaintiffs were demanding access to hearings where the court had been answering jurors' questions and requests to listen to the reading of previous testimony.

"Barring the public from these final, pivotal stages of this case is, from a constitutional standpoint, simply intolerable," the media attorneys argued in their motion.

Santa Barbara County Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville had set a hearing for Thursday on a previous request to disclose jury questions and release transcripts of hearings.

Media attorneys had been pressing the judge to move up the hearing's date, arguing that their request will be moot if the jury reaches a verdict first.

Jackson's attorneys responded with a motion opposing the media's request, arguing that providing public access to the jury's questions, and hearings related to them, "would invade the confidentiality of the jury deliberation process and would threaten Mr. Jackson's right to a fair trial."

Sources said Melville and attorneys in the case have met at least three times as jurors deliberated.

Spokeswoman dismissed
Jackson's Web site said Friday night that the singer had fired his spokeswoman, Raymone Bain, who has been with him throughout the trial.

"MJJ Productions regretfully announces the termination of Raymone Bain and Davis, Bain & Associates. We thank you for your services," said the complete text of the statement at www.mjjsource.com.

Lead defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. visited Neverland ranch Wednesday after a flap arose over who should speak for Jackson.

Mesereau received court permission to release a statement saying that he had "not authorized anyone to speak or hold press conferences on behalf of Michael Jackson or his family."

Jackson and his family posted a similar statement on his Web site.

Jackson fans and supporters have joined the media from around the world outside the Santa Maria courthouse each day for news of a verdict.

The 46-year-old pop star is facing judgment on 10 counts, stemming from events that allegedly took place with a 13-year-old boy two years ago: four counts of lewd conduct with a child younger than 14; one count of attempted lewd conduct; four counts of administering alcohol to facilitate child molestation; and one count of conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment or extortion.

Jackson has denied the charges and pleaded not guilty.


Should be announced pretty soon according to the news in here. My bet is that he´s innocent. OJ walked and MJ is doing the same thing.

davefan 06-13-2005 11:19 PM

well you were right not guilty unbelivable so many points and not one guilty

spunkywho 06-13-2005 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by davefan
well you were right not guilty unbelivable so many points and not one guilty

especially the 'administering alcohol' one..... unbelievable.

Irishshin 06-13-2005 11:21 PM

Not Guilty on all counts :)

Good!

Mr Bluesman 06-14-2005 12:04 AM

Of course he wasn't going to be charged guilty. This is Michael Jackson, he's a very rich and famous man.

Jim Bon Jovi 06-14-2005 01:43 AM

In all fairness. I don't believe 4 a minute that he's innocent but several law tutors told me(with regards to the jody jones trial), the thing is, what you see in the papers and the news is a fraction of what everyone in the trial see so what you see in the papers and news mis far from what the people in court see.

spunkywho 06-14-2005 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi
In all fairness. I don't believe 4 a minute that he's innocent but several law tutors told me(with regards to the jody jones trial), the thing is, what you see in the papers and the news is a fraction of what everyone in the trial see so what you see in the papers and news mis far from what the people in court see.

you actually need several law tutors to tell you that??? :shock:

:lol:

Jim Bon Jovi 06-14-2005 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkywho
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bon Jovi
In all fairness. I don't believe 4 a minute that he's innocent but several law tutors told me(with regards to the jody jones trial), the thing is, what you see in the papers and the news is a fraction of what everyone in the trial see so what you see in the papers and news mis far from what the people in court see.

you actually need several law tutors to tell you that??? :shock:

:lol:

JUST BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN MICHAEL AND YOU'RE RACIST!!!!!!

SKULL YA MONKEY


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spunkywho 06-14-2005 04:43 AM

LOL.

From seeing all the jurors interviews, it seems, as usual, the hangup was on proving 'beyond a resonable doubt' that MJ was guilty. Honestly, I'd have to agree, though I sure as hell believe, like most jurors, that he IS guilty.

Unfortunately, the parents reputation of the child was major handicap.

:(

Jim Bon Jovi 06-14-2005 02:37 PM

well that's the thing. the benchmark is beyond reasonable doubt unles sits for murder so literally, if there's a reason to doubt the accusation then it falls on it's arse.

In Scotland we have a mad little loop-hole called not proven. It pretty much means the jury think you're guilty but there's not enough evidence to prove it. Kinda strange that one but it can be beneficial if you're in that position.

but i digress

I was makign the point that when cases seem to be overwhelmingly going in one direction but a different verdict comes out it's usually a result of the way the media wants to spin the case not what's actually happening in the court room, not alot of people realise that in most cases.


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