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steel_horse75 10-25-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PanosBonJovi (Post 1246128)
Who Would You Die For actually is a great song which was wasted in a forced album in order to complete their contract with Mercury/Island.

Fingerprints is also very nice. I personally loved We Don't Run from that album. Could be easily a lead single in any other album in 2000s/2010s


Agree.
We Dont Run
Sat Night
Who would you die for
Teardrop
Im your Man (not my fav by any means)

are wasted on a throw away album.

bonjovi90 10-25-2018 11:24 PM

Since someone had mentioned Shanks emulating Bobby's guitar style on Teardrop... I'm not too sure that it isn't actually Bobby playing on that track. Jon and he didn't fall out until early summer of 2015 and by then the track had most likely been recorded.

thesedays2014 10-28-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1246139)
Since someone had mentioned Shanks emulating Bobby's guitar style on Teardrop... I'm not too sure that it isn't actually Bobby playing on that track. Jon and he didn't fall out until early summer of 2015 and by then the track had most likely been recorded.

I think teardrop has an amazing guitar solo and totally original. BB shows us that John can create some great guitar work in the studio, contrasting with his average at best live playing,...doubt it was Bobby

BJFan99 10-28-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thesedays2014 (Post 1246171)
I think teardrop has an amazing guitar solo and totally original. BB shows us that John can create some great guitar work in the studio, contrasting with his average at best live playing,...doubt it was Bobby

Oh yeah, Shanks has definitely done at least one thing right.

https://youtu.be/2reavl_l9f0

rolo_tomachi 10-28-2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1246139)
Since someone had mentioned Shanks emulating Bobby's guitar style on Teardrop... I'm not too sure that it isn't actually Bobby playing on that track. Jon and he didn't fall out until early summer of 2015 and by then the track had most likely been recorded.

Songs Credits


1- A Teardrop To The Sea

TITLE: A TEARDROP TO THE SEA
WRITER 1: Jon Bon Jovi
WRITER 2: Billy Falcon
PRODUCED BY: John Shanks & Jon Bon Jovi
LEAD VOCALS: Jon Bon Jovi
BACKGROUND VOCALS: Jon Bon Jovi
GUITAR: John Shanks
BASS: Hugh McDonald
KEYBOARDS: David Bryan
DRUMS: Tico Torres
PERCUSSION: Tico Torres
MIXED BY: Paul LaMalfa
RECORDED BY: Paul LaMalfa
TRACKING STUDIO: Avatar Studios, NYC / Henson Studios, LA
MIX STUDIO: Henson Studios, LA
MASTERED BY: Phil Nicolo
MASTERING ASST: Dan Tatarowicz
MASTERING STUDIO: STUDIO4, Philly

Eveline 10-28-2018 08:01 PM

wow Shanks is actually capable of doing something good! *clap clap*

kevinondemand 10-28-2018 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1246209)
wow Shanks is actually capable of doing something good! *clap clap*

I personally love Shanks. I met him multiple times and he told me that Jon let him run with that song.

Thinny 10-28-2018 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinondemand (Post 1246215)
I personally love Shanks. I met him multiple times and he told me that Jon let him run with that song.

You're definitely in the minority on here with that opinion...

But that's quite interesting, and pretty much confirms what some here have said, in that Shanks just does what Jon asks of him and can't be completely blamed for the sterile sound of the last few records. It sounds as if Jon doesn't let him run with it that often....and if he did we might get more gems like Teardrops...

It's almost as if Jon didn't give a shit about BB, as it was just so he could get out of the record contract and let Shanks loose a bit. And as a result we got of of the best BJ songs in the last 10 years at least...

kevinondemand 10-28-2018 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1246216)
You're definitely in the minority on here with that opinion...

But that's quite interesting, and pretty much confirms what some here have said, in that Shanks just does what Jon asks of him and can't be completely blamed for the sterile sound of the last few records. It sounds as if Jon doesn't let him run with it that often....and if he did we might get more gems like Teardrops...

It's almost as if Jon didn't give a shit about BB, as it was just so he could get out of the record contract and let Shanks loose a bit. And as a result we got of of the best BJ songs in the last 10 years at least...

From the 10 minute conversation I had with him he seemed very proud of BB. It was before the IHeartradio theater show. I didn’t have a ticket but ended up getting in anyway thanks to the awesome crew.

I’m actually a fan of everything that shanks produced and funny enough I like the new Bon Jovi stuff over the old stuff.

Walleris 10-29-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kevinondemand (Post 1246219)
I’m actually a fan of everything that shanks produced and funny enough I like the new Bon Jovi stuff over the old stuff.

Matt Bongiovi burner account detected.

Nige 10-29-2018 12:55 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say there is absolutely no way we're getting a new album next year - the European shows have been billed as THINFS so they would be shooting themselves in the foot to release an album as well but not "tour" it.

So I reckon Autumn 2020 with a tour 2020/21.



Note to FutureNige: If you are reading this in 2020 listening to the new album - well done.

PanosBonJovi 10-29-2018 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1246129)
Agree.
We Dont Run
Sat Night
Who would you die for
Teardrop
Im your Man (not my fav by any means)

are wasted on a throw away album.

Add When We Were Us (i think its catchy and i really like it as well) and The Devil's In The Temple, THINFS, Knockout and finally Roller Coaster and you got a pretty decent album.

THINFS wasn't as bad as people make it look. Definitely not their finest work but after all these years I simply know that we ain't gonna get a These Days album again so...

YOVANAfromPeru 10-30-2018 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1246309)
Matt Bongiovi burner account detected.

Yeahh... if you meet someone, that should not make you someone without personality.

Javier 10-30-2018 09:54 AM

They will probably re-release THINFS in one form or another and put another new song or 2. Bands of Bon Jovi's age are accustomed to touring 3-4 years on a single album by it Jon still feels the need to put something new out....

Falco 10-31-2018 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kevinondemand (Post 1246219)
From the 10 minute conversation I had with him he seemed very proud of BB. It was before the IHeartradio theater show. I didn’t have a ticket but ended up getting in anyway thanks to the awesome crew.

I’m actually a fan of everything that shanks produced and funny enough I like the new Bon Jovi stuff over the old stuff.

I will bravely stand beside you and agree, I didn't become a fan or even aware of Bon Jovi until 2000 when Crush was released, I was 13. I like soft rock/pop music so I always have enjoyed post 2000 stuff more than the harder rock of the 80s/90s. The only songs I really enjoy from pre-2000 are Keep The Faith, Only Lonely, and Something To Believe In. Hey, everyone's different.

Captain_jovi 10-31-2018 05:26 AM

No word of judgement I think it's fantastic people are saying this. Screw anyone that holds it above you, if that's how you feel have a blast with the music. I felt the same when I LOVED Crush and Bounce as a new fan and got flack on this very board.

YOVANAfromPeru 10-31-2018 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1246518)
Keep The Faith

What about jungle noises? Hihihih

Falco 11-04-2018 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1246520)
What about jungle noises? Hihihih

It's a jungle out there baby! :lol:

YOVANAfromPeru 11-04-2018 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1246823)
It's a jungle out there baby! :lol:

O_O
you gotta watch your back, now lol

Jack27 11-07-2018 01:00 PM

Got this from Ticketmaster re the Wembley show:

Just a few details about dispatching your tickets...

The event organisers are still working with us on a few final details before we can print your tickets, but this might not be until nearer the time. As soon as this is completed, we’ll print them and send them out to you. The latest you should receive them is around 5 days before the event.

Reading between the lines...might this be new album/tour branding related?

Thinny 11-07-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1247054)
Got this from Ticketmaster re the Wembley show:

Just a few details about dispatching your tickets...

The event organisers are still working with us on a few final details before we can print your tickets, but this might not be until nearer the time. As soon as this is completed, we’ll print them and send them out to you. The latest you should receive them is around 5 days before the event.

Reading between the lines...might this be new album/tour branding related?

No it's a pretty standard message that Ticketmaster send out, to stop people emailing them every few weeks asking why they have not received their tickets yet. It's very common for tickets not to be sent out until late...

bonjovi90 11-07-2018 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1247058)
No it's a pretty standard message that Ticketmaster send out, to stop people emailing them every few weeks asking why they have not received their tickets yet. It's very common for tickets not to be sent out until late...

Then this might be UK related. Never had this issue here in Germany and the tickets for Munich have arrived within a few days as well.

BJFan99 11-07-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1247059)
Then this might be UK related. Never had this issue here in Germany and the tickets for Munich have arrived within a few days as well.

Are you going to any German shows this time around, btw?

bonjovi90 11-08-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1247073)
Are you going to any German shows this time around, btw?

Yeah I'll probably be going to Munich. I too have FOS tickets for Dusseldorf, but I'm about to sell them again.

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Faceman 11-08-2018 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1247161)
I too have FOS tickets for Dusseldorf, but I'm about to sell them again.

Why? Are you afraid they won't make up for their 2011 performance? :-D

BJFan99 11-08-2018 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1247161)
Yeah I'll probably be going to Munich. I too have FOS tickets for Dusseldorf, but I'm about to sell them again.

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Don't bother - even nowadays the band should be able to top the clusterf*ck of a show that was Düsseldorf 2011... :D And, the 2006 show got the first Dry County performance in ten years; just saying.

bonjovi90 11-08-2018 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1247166)
Don't bother - even nowadays the band should be able to top the clusterf*ck of a show that was Düsseldorf 2011... :D And, the 2006 show got the first Dry County performance in ten years; just saying.

It's not about that. The expenses are too high and there are other things that are more important to me than spending so much money on current Bon Jovi. I'll be GA in Munich like I've always been there and that'll be it.

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Rdkopper 11-28-2018 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1247172)
It's not about that. The expenses are too high and there are other things that are more important to me than spending so much money on current Bon Jovi. I'll be GA in Munich like I've always been there and that'll be it.

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Go and experience it live in person... Trust me, you won't be disappointed... The energy and crowd alone are so worth it...

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WhamATC 11-29-2018 05:44 PM

I am sure the next album will sound a bit different, like every single Bon Jovi album. Feels like Bon Jovi is the only band which changes it's sound a slight bit (If not very slight) like every single album.

Xavi 11-29-2018 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WhamATC (Post 1248241)
I am sure the next album will sound a bit different, like every single Bon Jovi album. Feels like Bon Jovi is the only band which changes it's sound a slight bit (If not very slight) like every single album.

The Circle,GH tracks,WAN,BB and THINFS sounds exactly the same.
And I could also add LH and HAND.
With John Shanks,we know how the new album will sound,exactly like the last 13 years.
Boring.

bonjovi90 11-29-2018 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WhamATC (Post 1248241)
I am sure the next album will sound a bit different, like every single Bon Jovi album. Feels like Bon Jovi is the only band which changes it's sound a slight bit (If not very slight) like every single album.

Since at least 2009, they all sound the same. And there are tons of bands who change their sound from album to album. Bon Jovi used to do so as well, unfortunately that stopped with the arrival of Shanks.

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Rdkopper 11-29-2018 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1248253)
Since at least 2009, they all sound the same. And there are tons of bands who change their sound from album to album. Bon Jovi used to do so as well, unfortunately that stopped with the arrival of Shanks.

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Totally...

Jon should sport the DA / LH dark haired look instead of trying to be a 77 year old Bob Kraft.

And Richie just needs to start looking like a man again instead of trying to be a teenage pretty boy.

I know it's supposed to be about the music but that ain't happening so at least look cool...

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Eveline 11-29-2018 11:01 PM

Shanks not only remained in the studio but got his ass on the stage as well. We can only expect MORE of him :-|

Jovi98 11-30-2018 12:38 AM

But the Sanctuary II Studio (JBJ' s studio) is dead?

Eveline 11-30-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jovi98 (Post 1248260)
But the Sanctuary II Studio (JBJ' s studio) is dead?

Heard he sort of sold it. Is it true?

YOVANAfromPeru 11-30-2018 08:45 AM

JBJ decided to dismantle his home studio rather than chase new technology for the THINFS album, JBJ: “The gear was getting antiquated at my studio, so it was either invest a lot or let it go. I decided to let it go.”

Eveline 11-30-2018 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1248272)
JBJ decided to dismantle his home studio rather than chase new technology for the THINFS album, JBJ: “The gear was getting antiquated at my studio, so it was either invest a lot or let it go. I decided to let it go.”

so the rumour was true... thanks!

nikos greece 11-30-2018 07:18 PM

for a guy with the money of jon and an already existing place this sounds weird. i know a lot music studios with expensive hardware, plenty of racks and every kind og gear and mics. maybe the main console needed some work and repair but most of the gear in recording doesnt just grow old, the vintage equipment is often preffered. i think in true jon wanted to get out from his very comfort zone and out of his house as well. jon isnt and never was a studio guy who d record every idea and spend hours upon hours experimenting. i jusy wanted to comment that when you are a musician and own all these stuff the only thing that can age and need regular attention is the console.

Jovi98 11-30-2018 08:01 PM

Sanctuary II Studio

(1999-2015)

R.I.P

Eveline 11-30-2018 08:39 PM

I was talking to a fellow fan the other day and she told me that perhaps being in that studio evoked too many sad memories and he couldn't stand being there anymore... to me it's not about money.


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