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ste5131 09-14-2002 12:21 PM

cd:uk performance
 
Crap!

Maybe Jon had a late night or something, but that was weak!

Playing to a backing track and still there was no energy, apart from Richie....

Bon Jovi pride themselves on great live preformances and this morning they let themselves down.... :oops: :cry:

Mike 09-14-2002 12:23 PM

Poor old Jon looked like he'd just got out of bed.

Still - I wouldn't call it weak. Just tired.

Mike

Mongoose 09-14-2002 12:43 PM

I think the word is Jetlag....

Thomas Anderson 09-14-2002 12:50 PM

Although I love Everyday, I must also say it was a weak performance. Jon seemed part asleep, but I recorded it anyway.

I will soon post it on my website, and I apologise in advance for the poor quality.

KEEP THE FAITH 2002

moi 09-14-2002 01:07 PM

was it taped last week? they were wearing the same clothes as last week :lol:

Little Runaway 76 09-14-2002 01:09 PM

Re: cd:uk performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ste5131
Crap!

Maybe Jon had a late night or something, but that was weak!

Playing to a backing track and still there was no energy, apart from Richie....

Bon Jovi pride themselves on great live preformances and this morning they let themselves down.... :oops: :cry:

What do you expect when they have been flying from America to here,then Japan and back again.They've not really been able to rest up properly yet from all the miles they've just done this past week.They've done around 34 hours alone in flying from country to country.They're just well and truly jetlagged.
I highly doubt you'd be able to cope with flying 34 hours and do tv appearances more or less as soon as the plane has landed.

Thomas Anderson 09-14-2002 01:23 PM

For those of you who didn't see the CD:UK Show, I have a download on my website. I do not have much bandwidth though, so if any of you manage to download it, share it.

It is on the Hompage of my website www.keepthefaith.tk

Mad4Jovi 09-14-2002 01:52 PM

I too thought Jon looked very tired, but considering all the travel they've been doing lately for us fans, I'm not suprised. Give the guys a break - at least they sang live - unlike other bands in CDUK this morning.

ste5131 09-14-2002 02:15 PM

Holy shit!

I was only pointing out what was actually the case. I didn't need to be given excuses for the poor quality of the performance!

No need to be so defensive about it!

And what the **** is wrong with criticism?


Argh......

ste5131 09-14-2002 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mongoose
I think the word is Jetlag....

Clever!

Stop being an annoying teenager....

ste5131 09-14-2002 02:19 PM

Re: cd:uk performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Runaway 76

I highly doubt you'd be able to cope with flying 34 hours and do tv appearances more or less as soon as the plane has landed.

I agree, I probably wouldn't be very good. But then again, if I had done it for the last 20 odd years etc etc I might have been able to.

Next point is that was the first UK performance (correct me if I'm wrong) and the single is out next week. Hardly a way to sell records when you let your jetlag show and smile about once!

Pauly 09-14-2002 02:42 PM

Im afraid i have to agree,the performance this morning was no way near how BonJovi usually perform, and considering that was the first performance on uk tv and the single is out on monday,that was no way to promote it,i think its because it costs a lot of money to perform live so because he was singing to a backing tape the band as a whole still couldnt get into it,but still if thats the case they shouldve just played the video,it was a shame.
Pisses me off!

Little Runaway 76 09-14-2002 02:54 PM

Re: cd:uk performance
 
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Originally Posted by ste5131
Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Runaway 76

I highly doubt you'd be able to cope with flying 34 hours and do tv appearances more or less as soon as the plane has landed.

I agree, I probably wouldn't be very good. But then again, if I had done it for the last 20 odd years etc etc I might have been able to.

Next point is that was the first UK performance (correct me if I'm wrong) and the single is out next week. Hardly a way to sell records when you let your jetlag show and smile about once!

That has nothing to do with it.Jet lag is still jetlag even if you're in the limelight that the band are.For all you know,they may have only landed here early this morning and NOT had time to rest up enough before doing the show.
They're humans not robots.

Dawn 09-14-2002 03:19 PM

Yep it wasnt their best performance but it certianly wasnt their worst in 20years. After this amount of time and their age maybe its harder for them to judge what they can cope with and when they should rest, they are not 20 anymore. We all have our rough feeling days.

I still enjoyed it, I do think it was a tape from last week, due to the link in and they were wearing exactly the same clothes. Which ws a shame, as Id seen posts of people saying they had gone and got tickets to see the show as they thought they were playing live.

Hope when they come for the Shepherds Bush gig then we will get a better recording of the single on TOTPS. Be good if they could do a special recording like they did for TOTPS 2 and the Crush album.

Dawn

Wendy 09-14-2002 03:54 PM

I didn't think it was all THAT bad. But I did notice the jet lag! And the clothes! Also thought Jon had a bit of a problem reaching the high notes.

jedijovi 09-14-2002 04:08 PM

On Backstage someone said it was taped last week which would explain it as I think they had literally gotten off the plane and went to tape the show. Also, I don't think they do well playing with the recorded tracks- the Giants Stadium performance wasn't the best either yet Times Square was fantastic.

Yvonne 09-14-2002 04:23 PM

The performance was recorded last Saturday. The guys flew here the friday (day b4 Wembley), i watched the interview last week and it was stated that they came direct from the airport.
The performance was alright but hey, its UK tv, UK tv is pretty rubbish when it comes to music performaces.

Mike 09-14-2002 04:34 PM

It is obvious the reasons why the performance from Jon (the rest of the band seemed really up for it, even if it was a backing tape) - jetlag & extreme tiredness (he looked like he just wanted to lie down & go to sleep).


LR76 - I don't think anyone is disputing the reasons for the performance, however, this still doesn't alter the fact that the performance was below par - which is the impression many viewers will get of BJ's live performance. I think they'd have been better off cancelling it, or giving Jon a few caffine tablets.

Thats my opinion

Mike

Yvonne 09-14-2002 04:52 PM

Bon Jovi are back at CDUK today recording some songs for future shows.

Dawn 09-14-2002 06:32 PM

I was just going to write that Yvonne,your right they are back at CDUK 1pm recording songs for future programmes, I think thats what confused everybody and they then expected it to be live on tv today.

You can see what Jovi are up to today in th UK on the Daily Grind over at BJ.com.
Dawn

krb102 09-14-2002 08:03 PM

Has anyone on here actually ever had jet lag? You are all making it out to be somethine that is a real disability. It is easy to act energetically for 3 minutes, even if you do feel tired, cos that is all it is, it is them feeling tired.

JoviForever 09-14-2002 08:26 PM

Let's be realistic here, people aren't going to buy a single on the strength of one TV appearance, no matter how good or bad it is.
If people are going to buy it, it's because they've heard it on the radio and like it.
Also i just don't think the guys like doing any TV performances, because t either Jon is the only one actiually singing to a backing tape or the entire band are miming. For instance when they done TOTP2 apart from It's My life which Jon did sing, they were miming to the other songs, and i thought it was terrible - you can tell Jon hates miming and he's not very good at it (which he should be proud of) LOL!

DevilsSon 09-14-2002 09:48 PM

Are you talkin about the wembley gig?
 
Are you talkin about the wembley gig?

Little Runaway 76 09-14-2002 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krb102
Has anyone on here actually ever had jet lag? You are all making it out to be somethine that is a real disability. It is easy to act energetically for 3 minutes, even if you do feel tired, cos that is all it is, it is them feeling tired.

And that's what I tried to say - Jetlag causing tiredness.Hell if I'd done 34 hours flying in a matter of a week,I'd be bloody tired that's for sure! My daughter suffered jetlag for a week after flying back from Florida last year and she's only 3! Took her the whole week to recover from it poor kid.

krb102 09-14-2002 11:27 PM

Little Runaway 76 - I think you misunderstood my point. My point was that jet lag is no excuse for giving a bad performance.

happyish 09-15-2002 12:06 AM

CD:UK Performance
 
Hi

If you go the "Daily Grind" on bonjovi.com you will see that Bon Jovi were recording at CDUK this morning but at 1pm! which proves that this mornings performance was recorded last week (hence the same clothes and jetlag).

Just thought I'd let you all know

Louise :)

Mike 09-15-2002 01:25 AM

Re: CD:UK Performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by happyish
Hi

If you go the "Daily Grind" on bonjovi.com you will see that Bon Jovi were recording at CDUK this morning but at 1pm! which proves that this mornings performance was recorded last week (hence the same clothes and jetlag).

Just thought I'd let you all know

Louise :)

Thats right. However - if u r gonna appear on national TV promoting a single - the performance should be electric (ideally) - My brother who went to the Wembley show with me & loved it wondered if it was the same guy. Hence - if that performance can't be delivered (& Jon must have been in some state not to be able to raise his game just for 3 mins) then it shouldn't be done. I'm not having a dig @ Jon - I know the hectic schedule they have. However this performance will pave the way for a large audience's choice of single next week, & its a shame when I know he can do so much better.

Mike

Irishshin 09-15-2002 01:47 AM

I was a little disappointed as well with the performance, but part of me didnt care cos I was just glad to get to see them :)

Loved that sexy smile at the end! :) lol
:lol:

Mr Bluesman 09-15-2002 12:28 PM

It was only one TV performance, CD:UK performances are never any good from any groups, so I don't think many non-Bon Jovi fans are really going to care much.
To see the real Bon Jovi wait until the Bonce Tour. :wink:

Little Runaway 76 09-15-2002 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krb102
Little Runaway 76 - I think you misunderstood my point. My point was that jet lag is no excuse for giving a bad performance.

So what is a good excuse for it then?For christ sake,they'd only just got off the plane when they had to record that performance.I'd like to see you do better straight after getting off a plane and from a 10 hour flight from America to here.
Nobody can be expected to be on top form when they've just got off a long haul flight and have to go straight into a tv studio to do a performance.
Obviously you haven't suffered with jetlag and don't know just how tired you feel from it.

LisaE 09-15-2002 03:50 PM

It wasn't actually live yesterday morning - that was taped last week after their interview, when they were suffering from jetlag. I'm definitely agreement that it was not a good performance at all - Jon did not look comfortable or seem to even enjoy it!! If I remember correctly I think someone who was there last Saturday said they actually did the song 2 or 3 times until Jon was happy with it - what on earth did they throw away?!

However, by all accounts the show they recorded yesterday afternoon was amazing, so it was obviously just a one off. This should air next weekend.

krb102 09-15-2002 08:19 PM

Quote:

So what is a good excuse for it then?For christ sake,they'd only just got off the plane when they had to record that performance.I'd like to see you do better straight after getting off a plane and from a 10 hour flight from America to here.
Nobody can be expected to be on top form when they've just got off a long haul flight and have to go straight into a tv studio to do a performance.
Obviously you haven't suffered with jetlag and don't know just how tired you feel from it.
It looks lke I will have to spell it out for you cos you don't seem to be getting it. It seems that they don't have a reason for performing badly. I have been on 8 long haul trips in the last two years, jet lag isn't as bad as everybodt is making it out to be; they were tired, but they should've been able to perform better than they did for just three minutes.

Captain Crash 09-15-2002 08:49 PM

krb, you're so predictable. Every time you reply in this section of the site, before I read your reply, I know it's going to be rude, downward, or..well..something that people aren't going to like. I guess we can really read you like a book! Now, it's obvious that you're going to reply to this message too..and if you don't, that's because I pointed out that you would, and you're going to try and prove me wrong. :D

For everyone else:
I've seen the guys live before, and they can do much better..ESPECIALLY JON. He really did seem tired and everything and it's kinda' sad...when you think about his daily routine.

krb102 09-15-2002 09:23 PM

Most people weakness on this board is that they can't accept any critisism of the band.

Dawn 09-16-2002 11:53 AM

krb,

We do except criticism, most of us have agreed that the guys were tired when playing that morning. Your arguement seems to be that jet lag isnt that bad and not a reason why the guys should be tired.

Maybe its not jetlag, maybe its the schedule. The guys made a point of saying they had just flown in. Let me tell you when you hit 30 + you do get more tired and the damn bags under your eyes are more noticable. Its called ageing!!!!!!!.
You got to remembr they are not 22 year olds anymore ,they are 40, this will make a difference to what they can handle.

Dawn

Little Runaway 76 09-16-2002 11:58 AM

Nicely said Dawn.If I remember rightly,didn't Jon say they'd only just landed a couple of hours prior to appearing on cduk?

jedijovi 09-16-2002 04:53 PM

Another thought I had when someone said they taped it three times to get that less than stellar performance is that maybe things weren't the way Jon needed them to be combined with jetlag and I suspect a hangover from celebrating the night of the 5th with the Sopranos after Times Square. Jon is such a perfectionist, he probably was unhappy with the performance and it showed. Anyway, they made up for it later. No jetlag is not a disability (I work with people with real disabilities) but haven't we all had a less than great day at work. The only difference is when Jon has one it's in the public eye. And for health providers like me it means I could be sued- LOL! So for many of us failure is not an option- not just rock stars.


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