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KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 06:18 PM

The official Aerosmith topic
 
I have saw single threads about Aerosmith, pretty much dead but there wasn't an official one so I have created one. :p

Anyway, I have heard the band are writing for a new album. They were meant to be doing a show soon, too, but Joe Perry has had problems again with his knee so it had to be postponed. :(

Also, apparently when the album comes out they will be doing a tour of the US. Does anyone know if any European dates will be added?

Supersonic 01-22-2009 06:33 PM

Aloha !

They've been working on that album since 2003 now and every time it looks like the band might hit the studio's to finish it they go out on tour and use it as an excuse for not being able to finish the album. Joe Perry has said that there will be more dates for the upcoming tour for the rest of the world but we've all heard that before too.

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Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 902189)
Aloha !

They've been working on that album since 2003 now and every time it looks like the band might hit the studio's to finish it they go out on tour and use it as an excuse for not being able to finish the album. Joe Perry has said that there will be more dates for the upcoming tour for the rest of the world but we've all heard that before too.

http://www.aeroforceone.com/af1/cms/...yard_2_new.gif

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Thanks Seb. :)

Oh well, hopefully they will finish it because if Joe can't tour then the only thing they can do is write, maybe leading to it being finalised and released?

RSROCKS 01-22-2009 06:42 PM

I hope they put a good record out because my interest in Aerosmith is hanging by a thread. It doesn't feel to great when you no longer have interest in a band you have spent a good deal of money to see on tour.

Meanwhile, I wish Joe a speedy recovery. I was aware of his past knee problems but not that he had to have surgery recently.

Supersonic 01-22-2009 06:43 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 902195)
Oh well, hopefully they will finish it because if Joe can't tour then the only thing they can do is write, maybe leading to it being finalised and released?

No, it leads to the band members all doing their own thing, with most of those things having nothing to do with Aerosmith. Yes, he might write a few more riffs, but it doesn't become a song before the rest of the band joins them. There's no such thing as an Aerosmith song written solely by Joe Perry. The only way this band will ever get round to finishing the album is if a producer gets all 5 of them together in one room.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 902201)
Aloha !



No, it leads to the band members all doing their own thing, with most of those things having nothing to do with Aerosmith. Yes, he might write a few more riffs, but it doesn't become a song before the rest of the band joins them. There's no such thing as an Aerosmith song written solely by Joe Perry. The only way this band will ever get round to finishing the album is if a producer gets all 5 of them together in one room.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

:| I just naturally assumed that he meant the band were writing stuff. :(

JerseyboyUK 01-22-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSROCKS (Post 902200)
I hope they put a good record out because my interest in Aerosmith is hanging by a thread.

Same here, 'Honkin' On Bobo' was great but felt more like a 'project' than a real album. They also sucked bigtime when i saw them at Hyde Park, Joe Perry was particularily disappointing.

'Aerosmith', 'Get Your Wings', 'Toys In The Attic', 'Rocks', and 'Draw The Line' are mindblowing good rock and roll albums, then it all went to shit.
'Pump' and 'Permanent Vacation' have a couple of decent tracks on each, but in my opinion Aerosmith never really suited the shiny production that the 80's/90's albums exhibited. 'Nine Lives' and inparticularily 'Just Push Play' are complete turds, utterly devoid of any attitude or soul.

Them early albums are amazing, and 'Honkin' On Bobo' offered some genuine hope. I just pray that they pull thier finger out and give us a great stripped down rock and roll record, not the pop-shite they've released over the last 15-20 years.

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseyboyUK (Post 902217)
Same here, 'Honkin' On Bobo' was great but felt more like a 'project' than a real album. They also sucked bigtime when i saw them at Hyde Park, Joe Perry was particularily disappointing.

'Aerosmith', 'Get Your Wings', 'Toys In The Attic', 'Rocks', and 'Draw The Line' are mindblowing good rock and roll albums, then it all went to shit.
'Pump' and 'Permanent Vacation' have a couple of decent tracks on each, but in my opinion Aerosmith never really suited the shiny production that the 80's/90's albums exhibited. 'Nine Lives' and inparticularily 'Just Push Play' are complete turds, utterly devoid of any attitude or soul.

Them early albums are amazing, and 'Honkin' On Bobo' offered some genuine hope. I just pray that they pull thier finger out and give us a great stripped down rock and roll record, not the pop-shite they've released over the last 15-20 years.

I must admit there are a few songs that I actually like from Just Push Play and Nine Lives. Namely Just Push Play and Pink.

Ferret 01-22-2009 07:32 PM

I don't mind them, decent band. Prefer their earlier more Stones-y stuff, myself. The big Don't Wanna Miss A Thing Style ballads don't really do it for me, to be honest, but the rock 'n' roll stuff's good.

Mama Kin's such a ****ing tune.

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferret (Post 902225)
I don't mind them, decent band. Prefer their earlier more Stones-y stuff, myself. The big Don't Wanna Miss A Thing Style ballads don't really do it for me, to be honest, but the rock 'n' roll stuff's good.

Mama Kin's such a ****ing tune.

Oh yeah I agree, Don't Wanna Miss A Thing has been played to death and I never really liked it in the first place.

zero_zero_UFO 01-22-2009 08:22 PM

Shit! Total knee replacement? Ouch.

About time there was an official Aerosmith thread :)

As for a new album? Well i'd settle for just a UK live date at the moment. Although that knee op will take quite a while to heal properly. Thats no.1 priority.

liljovi93 01-22-2009 09:11 PM

I really like Aerosmith. Some great songs! I love I Don't Want To Miss A Thing though. Has been a bit over-played but is a great song. I love there old stuff more though. Another good song is Jaded :D

Supersonic 01-22-2009 09:17 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 902252)
I really like Aerosmith. Some great songs! I love I Don't Want To Miss A Thing though. Has been a bit over-played but is a great song. I love there old stuff more though. Another good song is Jaded :D

I just can't be bothered to point out all that is wrong with your post.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 09:23 PM

Does anyone here have this:

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/51548...e/Product.html

Goldsausage 01-22-2009 09:28 PM

Toys In The Attic is one of my all time favourite albums. I love some of their new stuff too, particulary the song Devil's Got A New Disguise, but a lot of shit has come from the new era too.

However, I yet to hear the famous Rocks and I've not yet checked out the debut album too, but I'm very excited to hear them both.

Supersonic 01-22-2009 09:29 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 902254)

No, because it's shit. The show is filled with too many crowd shots (off which all are girls with incredibly big boobs or tight pants), short interviews in between songs and it's so badly mixed that sometimes Joe Perry or Brad Whitford is playing stuff that isn't there or Joe Perry changes guitars in within 10 seconds. The live mix itself is pretty good, but the video is awful to watch, it's like one big MTV video clip and it does not showcase what Aerosmith live is like.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

liljovi93 01-22-2009 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 902253)
Aloha !



I just can't be bothered to point out all that is wrong with your post.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Fair Enough.

Goldsausage 01-22-2009 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 902254)

My brother has it, I watched it once. As Seb said the reacurring interviews and clips are annoying, however if they were all put together and saved as a bonus feature it'd be a lot cooler.

Haven't seen it in a couple years though so you'll have to take Seb's word for the poor mixing and big tittied girls.

hometownboy 01-22-2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 902261)
Aloha !



No, because it's shit. The show is filled with too many crowd shots (off which all are girls with incredibly big boobs or tight pants), short interviews in between songs and it's so badly mixed that sometimes Joe Perry or Brad Whitford is playing stuff that isn't there or Joe Perry changes guitars in within 10 seconds. The live mix itself is pretty good, but the video is awful to watch, it's like one big MTV video clip and it does not showcase what Aerosmith live is like.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

i have it and ,for most of what he said, agree with seb

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 902261)
Aloha !



No, because it's shit. The show is filled with too many crowd shots (off which all are girls with incredibly big boobs or tight pants), short interviews in between songs and it's so badly mixed that sometimes Joe Perry or Brad Whitford is playing stuff that isn't there or Joe Perry changes guitars in within 10 seconds. The live mix itself is pretty good, but the video is awful to watch, it's like one big MTV video clip and it does not showcase what Aerosmith live is like.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Thanks for the heads up.

Is there any live DVD/CD you would recommend?

Oli - My brother bought 'Rocks' the other day and I am just about to listen to it. :p

Supersonic 01-22-2009 09:44 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 902267)
Thanks for the heads up.

Is there any live DVD/CD you would recommend?

Oli - My brother bought 'Rocks' the other day and I am just about to listen to it. :p

A Little South Of Sanity is a good live CD. It has a bit of everything. There are some overdubs here and there but overall it's a pretty good collection of songs and it does sound like what Aerosmith live sounds like. Rockin' The Joint is also pretty good, but a bit short. Aerosmith doesn't have any good live DVD's.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 902270)
Aloha !



A Little South Of Sanity is a good live CD. It has a bit of everything. There are some overdubs here and there but overall it's a pretty good collection of songs and it does sound like what Aerosmith live sounds like. Rockin' The Joint is also pretty good, but a bit short. Aerosmith doesn't have any good live DVD's.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Thanks. Might take a look at ALSOS. :)

JerseyboyUK 01-22-2009 09:54 PM

I kind of enjoyed the interview sections. The problem with my copy is that Joe Perrys guitar is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low in the mix.
And its not a great performance anyway.

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 09:56 PM

Btw, what about Live In Japan 2002? I've watched some performances on YouTube and have enjoyed them, but there is no coverart so it doesn't look official meaning I'm sort of sceptical about it.

RSROCKS 01-22-2009 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 902271)
Thanks. Might take a look at ALSOS. :)

A Little South of Sanity is definitely worth buying, if you are an Aerosmith fan of course :)
Also, if you want a DVD of Aerosmith, you are better off with bootlegs.

Supersonic 01-22-2009 10:42 PM

Aloha !

The best Aerosmith bootleg DVD is this one:

Aerosmith - Roar Of The Dragon Tour - December 31, 1999 / January 1, 2000
1. Eat the Rich
2. Falling in Love (Is Hard on the Knees)
3. Same Old Song and Dance
4. Love in an Elevator"
5. Livin' on the Edge
6. Rag Doll
7. Dream On
8. Janie's Got a Gun
9. One Way Street
10. Pink
11. Let the Music Do the Talking
12. Stop Messin' Around
13. Mother Popcorn
14. Walk This Way
15. I Don't Want To Miss A Thing
16. Cryin'
17. Dude (Looks Like A Lady)
18. Chip Away the Stone
19. Mama Kin
20. Train Kept A Rollin'
21. Auld Lang Syne
Encore:
22. Full Circle
23. Sweet Emotion / Heartbreaker

It's a rather good show from start to finish and includes One Way Street, Let The Music Do The Talking, Chip Away The Stone and Mama Kin.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 902336)
Aloha !

The best Aerosmith bootleg DVD is this one:

Aerosmith - Roar Of The Dragon Tour - December 31, 1999 / January 1, 2000
1. Eat the Rich
2. Falling in Love (Is Hard on the Knees)
3. Same Old Song and Dance
4. Love in an Elevator"
5. Livin' on the Edge
6. Rag Doll
7. Dream On
8. Janie's Got a Gun
9. One Way Street
10. Pink
11. Let the Music Do the Talking
12. Stop Messin' Around
13. Mother Popcorn
14. Walk This Way
15. I Don't Want To Miss A Thing
16. Cryin'
17. Dude (Looks Like A Lady)
18. Chip Away the Stone
19. Mama Kin
20. Train Kept A Rollin'
21. Auld Lang Syne
Encore:
22. Full Circle
23. Sweet Emotion / Heartbreaker

It's a rather good show from start to finish and includes One Way Street, Let The Music Do The Talking, Chip Away The Stone and Mama Kin.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Looks awesome, only downside is no 'Just Push Play'! :(

How could I get this? :)

Btw, any thoughts on Japan 02?

Supersonic 01-22-2009 10:49 PM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 902338)
Looks awesome, only downside is no 'Just Push Play'! :(

That's not a downside, that's a big plus. The song is awful, both on studio and especially live.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211 (Post 902338)
How could I get this? :)

Btw, any thoughts on Japan 02?

Send me a PM and we'll sort things out. Japan 2002 is also a good show, but that 1999 show is better. I'm not sure I have the 2002 show though.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 902339)
Aloha !



That's not a downside, that's a big plus. The song is awful, both on studio and especially live.



Send me a PM and we'll sort things out. Japan 2002 is also a good show, but that 1999 show is better. I'm not sure I have the 2002 show though.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

You think Just Push Play is awful? I think it's pretty good, if I don't take it seriously of course. Just a fun song. :p

The PM will be sometime in the next few days :)

hometownboy 01-22-2009 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSROCKS (Post 902335)
A Little South of Sanity is definitely worth buying, if you are an Aerosmith fan of course :)
Also, if you want a DVD of Aerosmith, you are better off with bootlegs.

yeah get ALSOS! i picked it up off ebay for 2.99! well worth it.

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometownboy (Post 902355)
yeah get ALSOS! i picked it up off ebay for 2.99! well worth it.

You see I was looking at it on Play.com and it's quite pricy actually. Might take a look on eBay.

RSROCKS 01-22-2009 11:24 PM

So Top 5 Favorite Aerosmith songs?

Goldsausage 01-22-2009 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSROCKS (Post 902365)
So Top 5 Favorite Aerosmith songs?

That's real tough but I'll try my best...

Janie's Got A Gun
Dream On (prefer live recordings though)
The Other Side
Toys In The Attic
Magic Touch

KeepTheFaith2211 01-22-2009 11:31 PM

Dream On
Love In An Elevator
Pink
Just Push Play
Draw The Line/Back In The Saddle

People will not agree with that:p

JerseyboyUK 01-22-2009 11:52 PM

1. Kings & Queens
2. Dream On
3. Nobody's Fault
4. Lord Of The Thighs
5. Seasons Of Wither

in that order

hometownboy 01-23-2009 08:42 AM

1. Sweet Emotion
2. Crazy
3. Dream On
4. No more No More
5. Sedonna Sunrise

zero_zero_UFO 01-23-2009 08:50 AM

1. Mamakin
2. Dream On
3. Sweet Emotion
4. Last Child
5. No Surprize

Supersonic 01-23-2009 09:02 AM

Aloha !

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSROCKS (Post 902365)
So Top 5 Favorite Aerosmith songs?

1. One Way Street
2. Line Up
3. Sweet Emotion
4. F.I.N.E.
5. Taste Of India

Something like that, I guess.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Dave 1986 01-23-2009 12:51 PM

The official Aerosmith topic
 
Possibly the first real rock band I ever discovered (I believe The Simpsons episode "Flaming Moe" introduced me to them :p) and the first band I really got into and became a fan of, followed by Bon Jovi, almost a decade ago!



I bought Japan 2002 off Play.com for something like £7.99. Blatently a bootleg but is very decent. Easily better than You Gotta Move (which I believe I've only watched once since 2004). A Little South Of Sanity is pretty much what you'd expect for an Aerosmith live album if you've not seen/heard them live already - ****ing awesome. I myself am still yet to see them live.



I also got the Making of Pump DVD which is good if you like these type of things.



As for albums, their 70's stuff is the best easily, but the more commercial Geffen-era albums are still good aswell. Never been fussed on Permanent Vacation, but Pump and Get A Grip are solid. Yes, it's very polished up like an 80's hair-metal album, but it's still Aerosmith. Nine Lives is patchy. Quite bland for the most part, but the title track, "Falling In Love (Is Hard On The Knees)", "Hole In My Soul", "Pink" and "Attitude Adjustment" are good. Just Push Play though is very weak indeed. The only song I like on there is "Jaded".

Goldsausage 01-23-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 902411)
1. One Way Street
2. Line Up
3. Sweet Emotion
4. F.I.N.E.
5. Taste Of India

Something like that, I guess.

Ah I forgot Taste Of India! Picking my favourite Aerosmith songs is harder than picking Bon Jovi or Pink Floyd ones :/ And I haven't even heard half of Aerosmith's material.


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