Buffalo Bills fans protesting vs JBJ
 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...c-ban/9367135/

And what is the nature of this "link" -- is he one of the investors of the Toronto group or is he not? And it seems that problem isn't that he wants to buy the team, but that that it would be moved. If it's true at all.

Maybe if Buffalo could win a few games every year, they would be worth something.

Donald Trump and Jon Bon Jovi mentioned as buyers for Buffalo Bills
In other words, it's just a lot of hype at this point. Jon hasn't got enough to buy -- or even more important, to sustain -- a team himself, and even if the Tanenbaum "link" were real, he must realize that he'd be a small fish in a big pond. He doesn't have the money or experience to maintain a controlling interest -- unless he just wants a piece of a team as retirement income.

I live in Buffalo! Go Bills!

Yeah, the perception is JBJ would want to move the Bills & thus fans have decided to protest. I don't think it's really caught fire however. Then again, I avoid local news. Only see an occasional post on twitter on the matter. He is at least banned from 1 local establishment, the Amherst Ale House, per their twitter page.

This is the flyer that's theoretically going around: https://twitter.com/NoToronto/status...212032/photo/1

If I ever find my self at a bar that is actively protesting Bon Jovi, I'll be sure to let you guys know.

Bon Jovi Group Reportedly Wouldn't Move Bills

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...stern-new-york

He'd be a principal owner, huh? Hope he hasn't said anything racist, sexist, or homophobic lately!

That would be very disappointing! Don't think Jon is that kind of guy though

Something might be dug up from his past, especially in the sexism department. Just yesterday, the National Football League suspended and fined a coach for suggesting that gays be "rounded up and nuked." Lucky for Jon that some of his best friends are minorities! :D

Yup, the last tour just brought in the spare change he still needed and now he can go for his egomaniac dream of being the owner of an NFL club. While his 80s heavy metal peers own chicken restaurants, the man goes for the big time. Fair play to him, if I was as rich, I'd surely try to buy some sort of mega-toy to keep me entertained. I just wish once in a while, there was a news article saying how he's taking some vocal coaching...but I guess he's well beyond that point.

This story won't go away and is really starting to damage his image.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/banned-...mments-postbox

I am not very into football, but my friends that closely follow every little thing that happens in the NFL have said that the group has signed agreements to not move the team. I think Buffalos fears are unfounded.

There is zero chance that team stays in buffalo if JBJ and his Toronto group buy them. They will wait out the current lease, pressure government for a new stadium and not get it. Then move the team to Toronto and claim it's within their legal territory because Toronto is so close.
Trust me, Rogers (the company in Toronto partnered with JBJ) has been trying to get an NFL team for years.

Though they're a thousand times richer, Rogers and Tennenbaum give Jon just enough equity points to make him principal owner (but certainly not more than thirty-four per cent!). Then in 2020, when the lease is up and the city can't meet their price, they muscle Jon out, let him take all the local flak, and cry all the way to Toronto on a slow boat across Lake -- uh -- (avoids scoring ignoramus points by consulting Google Maps) -- Lake Ontario!

It's obvious why Tanenbaum needs Rogers: he doesn't have the additional operating capital that would be needed. It's obvious why Rogers needs Tanenbaum: he doesn't have Tanenbaum's experience in running a major league sports franchise. And it's obvious why Jon needs Rogers and Tanenbaum: As a "mere" millionaire, he won't have ANY operating capital to contribute once he puts up his share of the franchise fee, which would require converting at least eighty per cent of his net worth into to cash AND paying off ALL his debts. So why do Tanenbaum and Rogers need Jon? To be the American crowbar with which to pry the Bills out of Buffalo, since he wouldn't have the money or the power to stop them.

Running the team into the ground by the time the lease runs out would be as simple as refusing to provide additional capital on the grounds that they would be throwing good money after bad. Garnish with Jon's "inexperience" as an NFL team owner, and they would have no recourse but to "replace" him (with a Canadian?) and restore the franchise's financial viability by moving the team to Toronto!

They won't muscle JBJ out, he wants the team in TO too.

Unless Jon is putting up more than fifty percent of the money (at least eighty per cent of which has to be his own cash), he is NOT "leading" the investor group and will not be the "controlling owner" of the franchise, rendering ANYTHING that he alone has to say about it a moot issue.

Not sure what you are trying to say, but two thirds of the group is Canadian money and JBJ is the third but clearly the front man to cover for corporate ownership that isn't allowed. I believe JBJ is on board with the plan to move to TO when they don't get the new stadium. The Rogers tannenbam group won't have to muscle JBJ out, he will be in agreement to move the team.

I'm glad you're being realistic about the Toronto move being inevitable.

Unfortunately, Jon (but not his partners) is now on public record as believing the opposite -- sort of:
Well, it looks like it's all a moot issue, anyway: It's just been reported that their initial bid has been rejected, and that the Buffalo-based Pegula group (who have just sold some land for $1.75B) in is the lead. So it's probably over, and I couldn't be happier. And speaking of inevitability, I think the time will come when Jon realizes that he has dodged both financial AND public relations bullets!

Okay now, let's not get carried away...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu7pNIwIYAA0dOL.jpg

Interesting that this came out now.....
https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trum...-buffalo-bills


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So JBJ inadvertently got a US president elected?!


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No, he didn’t win the bid either. Blame whoever won.

Jon wanting to play the bidding war for this team is where the band went down the drain and what ultimately lead to everything being a giant trainwreck at the end of 2013.

Yup! I like that better.


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The point is, Trump played dirty tricks to try to nudge one of his two competitors out. He's a slippery snake.

Just yet another reason why Trump is a piece of shit. One of the worst human beings on planet earth. A real stupid mother****er too. Everything about him sucks.

In retaliation, Jon dressed as Donald Trump for Halloween


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Brilliant! LOCK HIM UP!

Why cause he out smarted him? You're 21 so I get it... It's the fad or the "in thing" to hate Trump. Half of you kids don't even know why you hate him... Wake up call... Putting a temporary travel ban on the top 5 terrorist countries to keep your own country safe doesn't make someone a raciest...

Do your homework on the Media and you'll realize that they've been controlling everything wayyyy before Trump. He's just the one who exposed them and now they are out for blood and unfortunately the domino effect is trickling down...

Liberals are destroying America or should I say Destroyed America. It's just a form of communism. A twisted way to justify wrongful actions and I don't get that warped mindset...

Do your homework Kid... Hillary is as crooked as they get and Bernie is just straight up crazy. Free College Tuition... Really? That's worse than Obama Care...

Trump is easily going to do a second term, you know why? Not just because of his brilliance... But because Liberal Democrats are so far left now a days, they are just coming off like crazy mother ****ers...

Rdkppper. America is the only 1st world nation in the world that does not have healthcare as a right. Young people arent idiots. They see the world and realize spending billions on the military and not investing in the health of Americans as an actual problem. This isn't liberalism or conservativism. This is basic human rights that somehow only Republican Americans seem to think is not deserved.

Trump is awful. Only Trump would refuse to call white supremacy for what it is. Or refuse to show his taxes. Or treat women the way he does. Or the way he uses his Twitter account. Or the freaking wall that of course Americans are now paying for. The list goes on and on.

And I get it, Hillary was and is awful too. It was kind of like trying to decide between the lesser of 2 evils. But I Just don't get how someone can support or defend a bafoon like Trump. The entire world is in unison that he is a complete joke, except a portion of American Republicans.

Well said, Panda.

I think free healthcare, affordable homes and social security when you're old or ill should be universal rights.

Why are Americans against this? Do you believe that you will once become millionaires? The rich are getting richer. What's in it for the regular people (majority)?

I can't understand it.

THIS. Thank you.

Examples of Trumps Racism
-he attacked a Muslim gold star family
-said a judge was biased because he was Mexican
-said Mexicans are criminals, but some were good people
-the Justice Department sued his company twice for not renting to black people
-the NJ Casino Commision fined his company for discrimination against black customers
-refused to condemn white supremacists that campaigned for him, or disavow the KKK
-called for the death penalty for the Central Park Five (5 black man falsely accused of raping a white woman in centers park) even after they were proven to be innocent.

I'm a white hispanic & was born here. So I'm in a position where I fit in pretty well in white communities and w/ minorities. I'm also a registered Republican.

That said, I sympathize with people that don't immediately see/understand that Trump is a racist. If you're not a minority and dealing with racism everyday, it's easy for these things to fly under the radar, or for you not to recognize certain things as racist. I also don't fault anyone that isn't from NY/NJ for not knowing about his racism before the election, media didn't seem to care that much back then.

But yes, Trump is a racist, no doubt about it. And if you choose to deny that, or if you don't care because you like something else about him more, than you're a racist too. Period.


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I'm black. It's always been the "in thing" for me to hate racist mother****ers like Trump (and you).

As for every other insane thing you wrote, it's always highly amusing to watch someone make a fool of themselves and then talk down to someone younger as if their youth means they know any less. Most of us kids know exactly why we hate that Nazi loving piece of shit Trump. He's a racist, an ignoramus, he's clueless, he's a pig, he has no compassion for anyone, he's a narcissist, he's the greatest danger to the United States and the world.

"I don't think that youth is any presumption of vitality or old age any presumption of wisdom." - John F. Kennedy

In your case, I wouldn't presume the latter.

This list can continue to go on and on too!

This is where we just sit back and watch everyone cry.

Good thing you got Eminem's original rant on your side... Watch this if you want the truth...
https://www.facebook.com/10539211021...7972891287371/

I would say, instead of discussing Trump as a person, to discuss policies.

What has changed since he took office? Debate about the new laws and about the actions and functions of the federal government, not about a person and if he is stupid, mean or racist

He might not be a racist but he might employ racist policies. Or he might be a racist without enacting racist politics. He might talk anti-establishment and do nothing to change the establishment, or he might talk pro-establishment but in the end somehow meddle with the overall balance of power.

So talk about what's actually happening and not on a personal level. If u wanna get somewhere.

Perfect post... let's do it... bring it... but the reality is going to bring this topic back to my original points... All liberals do is moan and cry, they can't discuss policy... Bottom line, most are pissed because they might actually have to work for a living instead of getting everything handed to them... Just like the way Panda has the perfect resolution to Health Care... Listen Liberal Kid, if it was that easy it would have been resolved years ago when Obama was in office... Instead he gave us the worst health care plan ever, Obama Care... He's the one who who took that right away...

Jesus Christ, Rdkopper is a Trump supporter. That explains A LOT.

Yeah, I know... someone who sincerely wants to keep our country safe, rebuild our military, fix health insurance, and reduce taxes is a bad thing... We are too politically correct as a nation... we would rather let terrorists in, then offend anyone... Something is wrong with people who argue against that...

Is Trump outlandish, absolutely! But the media has been controlling this country for decades and the fact that they can't control him makes them all crazy... and then liberal millennial's believe everything the media tells them so welcome to 2017...

In 2017, JBJ would make a great political leader but it'll never happen because he would get destroyed... Pics of him in hot tubs with multiple women, or a rolled up dollar bill hanging out of his nose... Trump didn't live a political lifestyle so sure, they found dirt on him... but nobody had a problem with him until he decided to run for office and the media lost control...

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