Was Always already written in 1991?
Maybe this is common knowledge and I just missed the boat, but I had always assumed this song to maybe had been written somewhere in 1993 and pulled from the movie / shifted onto Cross Road in 1994.
Today I was reading the book "Bon Jovi - In Their Own Words" which basically covers different topics from 1984 to 1996 by assembling quotes from all band members. And I stumbled across this one: Quote:
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So some of these things make me question: - Was Always written before the collaboration on songs for Keep The Faith actually began? With the movie having been released in 1993, the script might've been sent to Jon in 1991 since he was a sure-fire address in terms of movie songs after Blaze of Glory had hit the previous year. - The interview doesn't clear up whether the band recorded it in May or September 1993 (by Jon's vocals I'd say the first), BUT the final version is from 1994 and the Box Set demo doesn't sound like the band's playing on it (and has female backings). So there must be another "mid-stage" version of this song in the vaults we've never heard? To this day, I had assumed that Jon had recorded it with random musicians as sort of a side project for the movie, but actually the band must've done the final movie version. |
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Interesting! Although I never thought about the year it was written, I always (no pun) wondered if the song was reworked to just fit the movie.
I mean, aside from the first line, the song has NOTHING to with the movie so I definitely don't think it was written from a script like the Blaze songs were. As great as the song is, that opening line seems a little forced and out of place but because it was for the movie Romeo Is Bleeding, I just accept it for that. "This Romeo Is Bleeding, but you can't see his blood" IMO is the weakest part of the song and doesn't really fit the next part which is Jon singing about himself. Just like BOR, it's like another Jon confession. "Sitting here wasted and wounded" "Now I can't sing a love song, like the way it's meant to be. Well, I guess I'm not that good anymore but baby, that's just me" Is Romeo Is Bleeding about a rock star who can't deliver a song anymore? Strictly going off my memory but around 1993 ish, I remember sitting in my car getting ready to leave work and listening to Jon being interviewed. He said that he's got a bunch of movie songs in the works and was specific to one being in a new Tom Cruise film (of which I never figured out to this day). I do remember being disappointed that none of those songs came out because I was waiting for them. Looking back, we got: -Good Guys from The Cowboy Way -Always from Romeo Is Bleeding -Gotta Have A Reason from The Three Musketeers -The Tom Cruise Movie (Maybe The Firm or Interview With A Vampire) -and maybe a few others? |
Wasn’t it wrote for a film called Romeo is Bleeding but it was so bad Jon pulled the song from it.
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So Jon pulled it out, altered the first line to fit the movie and then said it was written for it. |
There's a video interview with I think either David or Richie (or both) talking about how the demo was recorded in a hotel room while on tour. I'd assume that would be the KTF tour, '91 wouldn't make as much sense if that was the case, and it would put it right around '93 which fits.
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And since the demo on the Box Set doesn't sound like the band in my book (and I guess was done by Jon with some random musicians beforehand) and the one for Cross Road was rerecorded in Nashville, that hotel room demo with the band is something that we haven't heard at all I think. Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5X mit Tapatalk |
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I agree that the band in the box set demo sounds strange. At some backing vocals I could imagine that it is Richie however. The acoustic solo is a strange choice there, and it does not sound VERY richie to me, cause richie usually has some fast playing when soloing acoustically and here it is super slow. But it could be Richie. JBJ's voice sounds even pre-KTF at some points, meaning I could even accept 1991 as the recording year for this demo. I don't know what's happening, it's strange. Could there have been also some extra instruments/layers recorded for the box set by Obie ?? I don't think so but it is a possibility also.
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-Blaze of Glory and Billy Get Your Guns from Young Guns ii [technically JBJ solo, but the former track has appeared on both the band's Greatest Hits albums] -Real Life from EDtv -The One That Got Away from Message in a Bottle [Jon decided to not give the song to the film after seeing it, much like Always and Romeo is Bleeding] -Old Habits Die Hard and Not Running Anymore from New Year's Eve [Technically JBJ solo, but one of the songs appeared as a bonus track on WAN] -That Peter Pan Film everyone loves to speculate about [some think Life is Beautiful from BB may be the song in question] I actually love the Box Set demo of Always, much more so than the Cross Road version. |
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Gotta Have a Reason was written for Robin Hood |
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Ah! Shoot, thanks!
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Mr. Big Time for Armageddon. Cool little song.
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Always was demoed in a hotel room. There’s a Japanese interview (video) of the band laughing about it because it was so high pitched that (paraphrased) the hotel staff thought they were in there killing Richie.
Jon thought Romeo Is Bleeding had a great script, but the final product was awful. And the lyrics do match the movie because there was something about photography. It was pretty much s stalker song and the movie DID suck so I remember very little about it. Save the World was written for Armageddon. Jon gave them Mr. Big Time instead out of respect for Steven Tyler b/c Aerosmith recorded I Don’t Wsnt to Miss a Thing & Steven’s daughter was in the movie. I think Save the World was used to promote U-571 in Japan thought. I’m a little fuzzy on that one, but I think that’s correct. |
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And I've read a quote where it was said that the producer (?) didn't like Save The World too much and rather wanted to use Mister Big Time instead because he found it more fitting. Doesn't make that much difference, just thought I'd mention it. |
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And maybe another pre-production demo that might've been given to the movie producers so they had an idea what sort of song Bon Jovi wanted to lend to the movie in the first place. |
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Hmmm... you know that JBJ has said he has "An early dementia", right? (joking of course)
however: "Always was recorded since May 1993, I wrote it for the film, I got the script and I loved both: title and idea, I read the scrip and said: I have to be the guy that have to write this! And after Blaze of Glory I wanted to do something else, right away! And it was this! So we recorded it on the road, you know Pino Palladino played bass and there was electric drum, David played piano, Richie played a little bit of guitar but with a really different production, it was made for movie and it was going to be a solo for this film. And it was very good, but the film wasn't it. We loved the song and it was for the next band record, it was so good that it would work best on the Greatest Hits record and so we re-recorded it as a band and on the course of a week we recorded this and Prayer '94, all in Nashville." I'm not back, but I still can post when I want, 'cause I do whatever I want, remember? >_< jajajajaj |
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just in case:
(10:37) https://omny.fm/shows/ugly-phil/ugly...018-with-jon-b -_- about the "Drinking" thing of the other day, when I got a cold I use to drink 1 strong drink, it works I'm 100% fine now, lol Merry Christmas, everybody! |
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I'm sorry for not believing you.
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I’m telling you something... the “Drinking Song” sucks! JBJ probably would kill me if I post that one... lol and I don’t wanna die jajajaj |
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Listen crazy people! Rdkopper is not my boyfriend. We were just playing all this time. And the answer is NO! I’m out of here. |
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Person who sent me the PM in Spanish, why don’t you post here often??? and about Bon Jovi please >_< lol
because your PM was way off topic. ¡Feliz Navidad! |
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