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Tom_K 11-04-2017 12:33 PM

Well said, Panda.

I think free healthcare, affordable homes and social security when you're old or ill should be universal rights.

Why are Americans against this? Do you believe that you will once become millionaires? The rich are getting richer. What's in it for the regular people (majority)?

I can't understand it.

kenobi_on_a_prayer 11-04-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by panda (Post 1230251)
rdkppper. America is the only 1st world nation in the world that does not have healthcare as a right. Young people arent idiots. They see the world and realize spending billions on the military and not investing in the health of americans as an actual problem. This isn't liberalism or conservativism. This is basic human rights that somehow only republican americans seem to think is not deserved.

Trump is awful. Only trump would refuse to call white supremacy for what it is. Or refuse to show his taxes. Or treat women the way he does. Or the way he uses his twitter account. Or the freaking wall that of course americans are now paying for. The list goes on and on.

And i get it, hillary was and is awful too. It was kind of like trying to decide between the lesser of 2 evils. But i just don't get how someone can support or defend a bafoon like trump. The entire world is in unison that he is a complete joke, except a portion of american republicans.

THIS. Thank you.

Raz0r 11-04-2017 03:19 PM

Examples of Trumps Racism
-he attacked a Muslim gold star family
-said a judge was biased because he was Mexican
-said Mexicans are criminals, but some were good people
-the Justice Department sued his company twice for not renting to black people
-the NJ Casino Commision fined his company for discrimination against black customers
-refused to condemn white supremacists that campaigned for him, or disavow the KKK
-called for the death penalty for the Central Park Five (5 black man falsely accused of raping a white woman in centers park) even after they were proven to be innocent.

I'm a white hispanic & was born here. So I'm in a position where I fit in pretty well in white communities and w/ minorities. I'm also a registered Republican.

That said, I sympathize with people that don't immediately see/understand that Trump is a racist. If you're not a minority and dealing with racism everyday, it's easy for these things to fly under the radar, or for you not to recognize certain things as racist. I also don't fault anyone that isn't from NY/NJ for not knowing about his racism before the election, media didn't seem to care that much back then.

But yes, Trump is a racist, no doubt about it. And if you choose to deny that, or if you don't care because you like something else about him more, than you're a racist too. Period.


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trevrox 11-04-2017 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1230247)
Why cause he out smarted him? You're 21 so I get it... It's the fad or the "in thing" to hate Trump. Half of you kids don't even know why you hate him...

I'm black. It's always been the "in thing" for me to hate racist mother****ers like Trump (and you).

As for every other insane thing you wrote, it's always highly amusing to watch someone make a fool of themselves and then talk down to someone younger as if their youth means they know any less. Most of us kids know exactly why we hate that Nazi loving piece of shit Trump. He's a racist, an ignoramus, he's clueless, he's a pig, he has no compassion for anyone, he's a narcissist, he's the greatest danger to the United States and the world.

"I don't think that youth is any presumption of vitality or old age any presumption of wisdom." - John F. Kennedy

In your case, I wouldn't presume the latter.

trevrox 11-04-2017 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Raz0r (Post 1230260)
Examples of Trumps Racism
-he attacked a Muslim gold star family
-said a judge was biased because he was Mexican
-said Mexicans are criminals, but some were good people
-the Justice Department sued his company twice for not renting to black people
-the NJ Casino Commision fined his company for discrimination against black customers
-refused to condemn white supremacists that campaigned for him, or disavow the KKK
-called for the death penalty for the Central Park Five (5 black man falsely accused of raping a white woman in centers park) even after they were proven to be innocent.

This list can continue to go on and on too!

Rdkopper 11-05-2017 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by trevrox (Post 1230272)
I'm black. It's always been the "in thing" for me to hate racist mother****ers like Trump (and you).

This is where we just sit back and watch everyone cry.

Good thing you got Eminem's original rant on your side... Watch this if you want the truth...
https://www.facebook.com/10539211021...7972891287371/

jazzsta 11-05-2017 12:56 PM

I would say, instead of discussing Trump as a person, to discuss policies.

What has changed since he took office? Debate about the new laws and about the actions and functions of the federal government, not about a person and if he is stupid, mean or racist

He might not be a racist but he might employ racist policies. Or he might be a racist without enacting racist politics. He might talk anti-establishment and do nothing to change the establishment, or he might talk pro-establishment but in the end somehow meddle with the overall balance of power.

So talk about what's actually happening and not on a personal level. If u wanna get somewhere.

Rdkopper 11-05-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzsta (Post 1230285)
I would say, instead of discussing Trump as a person, to discuss policies.

What has changed since he took office? Debate about the new laws and about the actions and functions of the federal government, not about a person and if he is stupid, mean or racist

He might not be a racist but he might employ racist policies. Or he might be a racist without enacting racist politics. He might talk anti-establishment and do nothing to change the establishment, or he might talk pro-establishment but in the end somehow meddle with the overall balance of power.

So talk about what's actually happening and not on a personal level. If u wanna get somewhere.

Perfect post... let's do it... bring it... but the reality is going to bring this topic back to my original points... All liberals do is moan and cry, they can't discuss policy... Bottom line, most are pissed because they might actually have to work for a living instead of getting everything handed to them... Just like the way Panda has the perfect resolution to Health Care... Listen Liberal Kid, if it was that easy it would have been resolved years ago when Obama was in office... Instead he gave us the worst health care plan ever, Obama Care... He's the one who who took that right away...

DestinationJovi 11-05-2017 03:43 PM

Jesus Christ, Rdkopper is a Trump supporter. That explains A LOT.

Rdkopper 11-05-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi (Post 1230291)
Jesus Christ, Rdkopper is a Trump supporter. That explains A LOT.

Yeah, I know... someone who sincerely wants to keep our country safe, rebuild our military, fix health insurance, and reduce taxes is a bad thing... We are too politically correct as a nation... we would rather let terrorists in, then offend anyone... Something is wrong with people who argue against that...

Is Trump outlandish, absolutely! But the media has been controlling this country for decades and the fact that they can't control him makes them all crazy... and then liberal millennial's believe everything the media tells them so welcome to 2017...

In 2017, JBJ would make a great political leader but it'll never happen because he would get destroyed... Pics of him in hot tubs with multiple women, or a rolled up dollar bill hanging out of his nose... Trump didn't live a political lifestyle so sure, they found dirt on him... but nobody had a problem with him until he decided to run for office and the media lost control...

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