Bon Jovi 2020 tour with Bryan Adams - Cancelled
 

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Seriously, guys. Again? :lol:

Cheating their way to No 1 again!

So, they simply announced the 2020 Tour NA leg. Also, they accept their decline as Bon Jovi would never require a second artist to boost sales.

You can imagine how pissed I'm because I travelling to the USA in August!!!

It should be common knowledge by now that they never tour in August :p

:/ I'm flying there for The Stadium Tour by Def Leppard, Motley Crue, Poison and Joan Jett and to visit the USA of course. The tour schedules suck :( originally I wanted to travel there in July but in that case they (the Stadium Tour) don't play in NYC/NJ area.
Oh crap.
Going to a BJ show in MSG is one my dreams (even though Jon can't sing and Richie't not there)

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Times and circumstances have changed considerably since they said that. Not even 10 years ago they could have foreseen what the music business is now. Even newer acts that are popular and contemporary do package tours. There's no shame in it anymore....

I really hope Jon's ready. Having Bryan Adam's perform before you puts a lot of pressure on a vocalist. His voice live is awesome!!!,

I cant see how Jon dares to have Bryan opening for them.
Bryan is going to destroy Jon.
Ive seen Bryan last December and he is in an incredible vocal shape,while Jon,we all know how Jons voice is....

Interesting take but how so? They've had openers like Goo Goo Dolls, Daughtry, Kid Rock, etc all bigger draws for their time period. This isn't anything different then that, it's just different than having a local opener.

Totally agree there...It’ll especially be notable for fans who like both artists. Having to ‘listen’ to Jon after Bryan...lord

Aloha !

I'd have paid good money to see this show 10 years ago but nowadays a ticket for a Bryan Adams show costs half the price of a Bon Jovi ticket over here. I'm wondering how Jon is going to survive back to back shows in New York considering his voice was toast by the time he'd done 5 shows in Europe. I've a feeling this'll be the start of the 18-20 song setlists.

They've clearly booked a big support act though. Bryan Adams needs these shows for the exposure and Bon Jovi are obviously aware they can't sell enough tickets to warrant arena shows anymore. I'm sure there's limitations to Bryan Adams' show though. No use of visuals and no light show. If he's allowed to do that he'll play Bon Jovi off the stage very much like Kid Rock did back when they supported Bon Jovi on an off night in New Jersey.

This is very different. Goo Goo Dolls and Daughtry can't be compared to Bryan Adams. Bryan Adams has over 10 top 10 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 including several big number 1 songs much like Bon Jovi had. Goo Goo Dolls have had 2. Daughtry had 2 as well. Both of these acts combined still haven't sold the amount of records Bryan Adams has sold. I'd say this is one of their biggest support acts they've ever had.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

But Jon is wayyy beter frontman. Bryan is not even close to Jons today standard. With no vocal Jon made incredible show in Warsaw last year

Bryan Adams will probably wipe the stage with Jon, he's held up way better.

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No one sad Adams is bigger act. Jovi are way bigger act and Jon is better frontman on stage....but not vocal wise. Saw Adams about 3times and he is great but he repeats the same formula about 15 years...

Aloha !

How is he a great frontman if he can't do the one thing he needs to do anymore? Bryan Adams pisses all over Jons today standard. Jon's glued to a mic half the show churning out the wrong notes and the other half is just him waving and flashing smiles to make up for the fact he can't sing anymore. I'd say it's more of a testament to the intelligence of Bon Jovi's audience failing to realize this than the quality of Jon Bon Jovi as a frontman.

Yeah, unlike Bon Jovi who have clearly been re-inventing themselves by playing You Give Love A Bad Name as the third song as opposed to the second and end with Wanted Dead Or Alive instead of Livin' On A Prayer. Exciting times.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Holy sh**t I could have never imagined one of my favorite artist opening for Bon Jovi

Saw Bryan 3 times and the last one - exactly one month ago - was absolutely the best one. Amazing voice and superb stage presence

He'll probably do a 45/50 mins hits packed set - which will shits all over nowadays Bon Jovi

He doesn't use any fancy visuals even on his own shows TBH.

Just a basic stage and straightforward rock n roll.

Oh Wow! Somehow I'm not too excited 'cause I'm not going, but it will be fun!
And about Bryan Adams, I guess it's okay, from what I remember of that guy his songs are kinda ballads so Bon Jovi will be a Wake Up!!!, I guess...
BUT again, all depends on the new record, they need a STRONG single...
Just saying...
Don't say no BJ concert for me this year, not going to Phil X concert either, maybe Richie Sambora needs a tour, I'm very bored...

I'm sorry, but did you watch any footage from the European tour or Rock In Rio last year? Yes, his voice is gone and will never become any better again (I've accepted this by now), but there's still one thing he has left of his past greatness as a live performer that he won't lose until he can't move around anymore. That's charisma and the capability of working a crowd.

You simply can't judge his energy on stage by watching one song (at most) per show. In Rio he moved like crazy all night jumping and running all over the place, went into the audience in front of the stage to greet the fans during LYHOM like he already did back in 2000 (no, it wasn't needed as a "schtick" to cover up his vocal shortcomings back then, but interacting with the crowd in different ways has still been an essential part of his act for about all of his career), did extended outros on BTBMB, BOR and BM, a brief jungle noise on KTF... the list is endless. His vocals were atrocious, there's no denying it, and in the encore he was barely able to get any voice out at all, but I still very much enjoyed the show with him again being the showman I grew up watching on my old Crush Tour DVD.

You don't have to be able to sing to be a great frontman. Bono (who Jon idolizes) has never been hailed as one of the greatest singers in the industry, yet he's an amazing performer and continuously hailed as so. The same with Liam Gallagher (who in my opinion could never sing his way out of a wet paper bag if his life depended on it).

I'm not sure how Jon is any different and why so many seem to think he can't do anything anymore, when at the end it's only his voice that's really gone. I enjoyed his showmanship efforts in Tallinn as well (and yes, I was there and heard every single bum note he sang), and something like Saturday Night and IBTFY from Dublin night #2 were still great to watch, as even though his vocals were still poor, the old ad-libs and improvisations were great to have back after having been absent for so long. So pardon me for defending Jon on this, but he's still a world-class frontman and has the crowd eating out of his hands every night even though he indeed can't sing worth a crap anymore. The voice undoubtedly is still a big issue as well as a very distracting one on its own if it's closely focused on, and I'm sure Jon has indeed boosted up his movement and energy (at least partly) to get the focus of the audience off it - he was moving around the stage more during the last two legs of the THINFS tour than he had probably done since 2011 -, but other aspects of showmanship and performing ability do exist equally on JBJ as they do on others, no matter how shit he's gotten as a singer. And yes, he still has them.

Amen! :cool:

I was shocked when I saw this. My key takeaways:

- Not a wise pairing from Bon Jovi's perspective. As others noted, Adams will not upstage Bon Jovi with his show or decorations, but he absolutely will with his performance. He is in a very short list of peers who still sound amazing at his age. In some ways, his voice is even stronger now and he doesn't sound like he's pushing hard and straining to reach the same notes he did in his young days. Something Jon has never learned obviously. I can definitely see the press headlines about how Bryan Adams still got it and all Jon had was his smile and stage banter. It's one thing when you have a local or unknown support act, but another when it's someone from the same era with (I would assume) at least somewhat overlapping fanbase. I'm amazed that Jon signed up for this to be exposed like that. Especially when you consider that he had no interest in having big-name support acts for most of his career even when he was still good. But hey, congrats to Americans going to those shows, that's a good value for the price of one ticket, that's for sure!

- After the initial shock, my reaction then was "well, it must be a massive stadiums tour", but then I saw that it's all in the arenas - largely, the same arenas that Bon Jovi played on their own the last tour. I don't know how the ticket sales went (relative to the actual building capacities, and not the Billboard's misleading "sold out" figures), but on the surface, it seemed well enough for them to not need a huge support act like Adams. I don't how popular he's in the US nowadays, but in Europe, Adams is still an arena act. So combining two arena acts for an arena tour does not seem like a wise business move, given how expensive he probably is to be hired as a support act.

Is it ironic that the only date NOT to feature Bryan Adams is in Canada?

At least in Canada he's still touring arenas and sheds but hasn't had much radio relevancy barring the songs classic rock stations play ad nauseum. Canada is weird in that when one of our own breaks through to success in America we kind of turn our backs on them so I don't know his relevancy in America currently.

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Oh yeah, what a terrible frontman... especially near the end, he doesn't have any qualities needed for any type of a stage performer left at all, he's absolutely horrible...

Am I exaggerating on purpose? Yes. Bottom line is, sometimes it really feels like that for some of you, Jon can't do anything anymore. When he's not moving, people are complaining that him being static only highlights his poor vocals when there's nothing else to focus on. When he's moving, he's supposedly no longer a great frontman (and that was just Seb's opinion, but then again he seems to care only about Jon's vocals) and when he can't sing, he basically can't do anything else either and him moving around is suddenly just a cover-up to take the crowd's attention away from his voice - which is probably true to an extent, but let's indeed remember that he's been doing this for a long time and moving around, the different types of interaction with fans, etc. is not only what's expected from him, but by now all of this has basically become second nature for him.

In addition to him not having been able to sing for years now anyway, I was very disappointed with him as a frontman on the 2017 North American tour as well as during the two shows in Japan 2018, where he indeed was glued to the mic for (more than) half the time. That said, he seemed to flip some switch by the time they hit Brisbane and Sydney during the Australian tour following it and was suddenly very active on stage again. The sudden increase of energy continued on and on during the European tour and Jon's regained frontmanship made the Nijmegen, Dublin night #2, Düsseldorf and Rio shows last year very enjoyable in comparison to most late 2013-2018 shows. Of course his vocals were still awful, but him working the crowds like crazy and pouring every bit of energy into his performances he could manage made a huge difference. That's something I won't deny, no matter which kinds of contradictions I'll get from this post.

Aloha !

Are you annoying? Yes.

Your endless list of youTube links constantly prove my point. For every bum note he hits, he's throwing a smile. For every bum note he hits, he's waving his arm. He's painfully aware of all his shortcomings a vocalist and tries to make it up by endless arm-waving and what-not. His insecurity is painful to look at as he overcompensates while nothing comes naturally anymore. If you honestly, after the shitloads of youTube videos you've watched and posted, can't see the difference between Jon working the stage while singing compared to Jon working the stage to hide how he can't sing anymore there's really no saving.

A good frontman fronts a band and commands the stage while doing his job. That doesn't define Jon Bon Jovi anymore and anyone who says differently has to take a reality check and go watch other frontmen who move around a lot less but still draw all attention to them anyway because they're doing the 1 thing they're supposed to do just right; sing. Everyone who's saying Jon Bon Jovi is still a great frontman is essentially saying it's great to have a goalgetter who can't score a goal but at least entertains the audience by the utterly useless tricks he can pull off.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I’m in New York in April and I don’t give a crap that I’m missing this.

Lol you are so wrong it’s funny. I wish I could get my money back from last years tour. Jon can’t sing anymore and the whole performance and experience is suffering from it.

Even with a guitar around his neck Bryan moves around a lot more than Jon does without guitar. Nowadays there's no aspect where Jon is a better frontman.
And it doesn't matter if Bryan is allowed to use lights or videos. He would even kick Jon's ass by playing acoustic without PA in the afternoon sun.

I like the combo. If they tour Europe together as well (what I don't think will happen) I might consider buying a ticket for a Bon Jovi show for the first time since 2013.

I remember you saying that you had a great time in Nijmegen and on Dublin night #2, but didn't like the two other shows. Have you changed your opinion about the two good gigs as well since then?

I did actually. I was at both shows with good company. After listening to my recordings of both shows it was obvious that the shows were terrible. Can you point me to a website where I can ask for a refund please?

If you find one, let me know :D I had a good time in Munich as well due to nice company, but not due to the show.

And I think it's funny how easy people are pleased by now. I mean, if I go to a show of a band/singer I like and I'm not a diehard of, I'd at least want it to sound remotely like the recordings that made me go there. Imagine someone like Richie being there, waving to the crowd at every song and running from side to side for each solo, but failing on each one of them and being out of key while playing those. People would jump all over him.

It's like going to a comedian who runs around the stage but fails to deliver the punchlines or going to a restaurant where the chef shows all kind of tricks and is funny, but the food tastes poorly. How many would go there?

This actually seems to be the case on quite many bands and artists. You see a show and at the moment you think it's fantastic, but afterwards you see some youtube video and notice flaws that you either didn't pick up or they didn't stick out as majorly in the live situation.

However, I also recall you saying pretty soon after the shows that even in person you could hear all the bum notes from Jon. If you really did and enjoyed the shows nonetheless, with good company or not (and not even good company AND being drunk could save me from cringing at Jon's vocals in Tallinn at the actual show), what was so shocking about the recordings then? It wasn't like you were expecting the vocals to be any better on them either, right?

I think it's more to the fact that you've been jumping between the extremes for years now - from trashing Jon because of his singing to praising him again despite his singing and trashing those who stated just that.
What's the definition of a great singer for you? Being an athlete on stage or being a good singer? Case in point: In Saratoga 2010, Jon was sitting on a stool for pretty much the entire show, yet it was a stunning show, very intense and far better than probably all of the last 5 years.

You've probably been there a few time, haven't you? It's my first time plus I can't afford to visit the USA very often. I'm doing the trip now because I'm single and can use the extra money and personal free time. So I'm pissed that exactly one day after I buy plane tickets, they announce the tour. I'd love to go for the sake of seeing my favourite band in a legendary place like MSG.
On the other hand, I doubt that I'd fly there just because of the concert. I see Bryan Adams on regular basis because he is crazy and tour every year and often visits my country. I'D probably consider it if I knew it was any kind of reunion tour with Richie.

As I said last year about having Def Leppard opening for Bon Jovi, it's kinda sad that the opening act is miles better. This is a huge step down for Bon Jovi, pairing with an 1980s fella and doing only arenas. I'm curious about the prices. As everyting has gone much higher since last year, I can imagine it can be quite crazy.

I agree with this 100%. He’s so aware and insecure due to his horrible vocals that every interaction, smile or whatever he does up there seem forced and very unnatural.




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I remember what Bryan said in the 90s. He Loves the Bon Jovi Band but he cant stand their Singer. someone remembers this interview ? But i understand B.A. choise to open for BJ. He isn´t a big ticket seller anymore. he can sell 5 to 10 thousand tix maybe, in europe a Little more. but he Needs this possibility to step back in peoples minds. His voice has grown old in really good shape, just like Steven tylers. this is pure talend.