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aph01 03-15-2006 07:10 PM

I want to be loved. 3rd Single?
 
This website seems to think I Want To Be Loved will be the next single. If you scroll down on this site it has all of the chart singles Bon Jovi has released and has I Want To Be Loved penned in for the next release? Maybe they have got it wrong, I dont know? Something to talk about though.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Jovi

Ali.

RyanBounce04 03-15-2006 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aph01
This website seems to think I Want To Be Loved will be the next single. If you scroll down on this site it has all of the chart singles Bon Jovi has released and has I Want To Be Loved penned in for the next release? Maybe they have got it wrong, I dont know? Something to talk about though.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Jovi

Ali.


That site isn't always the best source considering..

1. It's not officially affilated with the Band.
2. Anyone can write on that site.

Ryan

JoviForever 03-15-2006 07:17 PM

Also the song has been released to rock radio stations in the States so maybe they think this means it's been released as a single?!

Jonbonrocks 03-15-2006 08:37 PM

I'm confused though. I know it's not released on all radio stations, but if it has been released to some, doesn't that make it a single anyway?

Thomas Anderson 03-15-2006 08:43 PM

I saw promo copies on eBay a while ago, plus I think people did post rumours of it, presumably it will be the next single. Just have to wait for them to announce it officially.

BJdavidLS 03-15-2006 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbonrocks
I'm confused though. I know it's not released on all radio stations, but if it has been released to some, doesn't that make it a single anyway?

I do believe it does.
There actually is a promo single out there
it is dated 2005, altough it's been released to USA rock radio stations in january 2006, as far as I know
http://www.thenetherworld.net/~sokar/bjcol/DSC06258.jpg

allmike 03-16-2006 10:27 AM

That will be cool...

Captain Walrus 03-16-2006 01:50 PM

If I wanted to, I could make Wikipedia say that they're going to release Novocaine as a single tomorrow. Take what it says with a pinch of salt

JoviForever 03-16-2006 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BJdavidLS
I do believe it does.
There actually is a promo single out there
it is dated 2005, altough it's been released to USA rock radio stations in january 2006, as far as I know
http://www.thenetherworld.net/~sokar/bjcol/DSC06258.jpg

As you say - this is just the version that's been sent out to US stations. That dosen't make it a single release and it dosen't neccessarily mean it will be released in Europe etc.

Rob 03-16-2006 08:21 PM

That's a decent choice.

BJdavidLS 03-17-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JoviForever
As you say - this is just the version that's been sent out to US stations. That dosen't make it a single release and it dosen't neccessarily mean it will be released in Europe etc.

I don't completely agree with you.
Who Says You Can't Go Home and the duet version also, they've both been releases, one to US country radio and the other to US non-country and non-rock radio stations, they both aren't available for sale, just like IWTBL, and aren't released in Europe (and other places too, except US). The only difference is they promote WSYCGHA and they filmed a video. But why does this make it a single release and not IWTBL. All of them exist only as promotional singles in US.
I believe IWTBL counts as much a single as any other single (be it promo or commercial) that's been released IMO.

Captain_jovi 03-17-2006 05:52 PM

I have a feeling Welcome will be the third single. If Jon is doing that on the West Wing next week, I assume the video isn't too far behind.

SamboraQueen21 03-17-2006 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
I have a feeling Welcome will be the third single. If Jon is doing that on the West Wing next week, I assume the video isn't too far behind.

is that next week? i thought i had missed it...

Captain_jovi 03-17-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SamboraQueen21
is that next week? i thought i had missed it...

Well if it isn't then I missed it too. So let's go with next week, heh.

SamboraQueen21 03-17-2006 06:32 PM

sounds good ;)

Shulamix 03-17-2006 06:40 PM

It's supposed to be on the 26th.

haveaniceday 03-17-2006 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
I have a feeling Welcome will be the third single. If Jon is doing that on the West Wing next week, I assume the video isn't too far behind.

There is no way Welcome will be the third single after it tanked in Europe. They split the singles up to see which worked and which didn't. Thats why they nixed Welcome as the second U.S. single. In my opinion they are still in a wait and see approach right now. One of 3 songs will happen: they are saving I Am for a big push during the last third of the tour, thus it would be the third single; they are looking to see if I Want To Be Loved catches on with rock radio, if it does then it will be the third single; or neither of the above is the case and they will release Last Man Standing b/c they are chart hungry after the success of Who Says. Simply my opinion but I'm fairly sure Welcome won't be the third single.

Captain_jovi 03-17-2006 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by haveaniceday
There is no way Welcome will be the third single after it tanked in Europe. They split the singles up to see which worked and which didn't. Thats why they nixed Welcome as the second U.S. single. In my opinion they are still in a wait and see approach right now. One of 3 songs will happen: they are saving I Am for a big push during the last third of the tour, thus it would be the third single; they are looking to see if I Want To Be Loved catches on with rock radio, if it does then it will be the third single; or neither of the above is the case and they will release Last Man Standing b/c they are chart hungry after the success of Who Says. Simply my opinion but I'm fairly sure Welcome won't be the third single.

That's just being hopeful, saying they're not playing "I am" because it's going to be a single. Lots of songs just weren't played live. Some became singles ie All about loving you, some didn't, ie Women in Love. It could simply just mean they don't want to play it live for whatever reason.

Just because Welcome doesn't work in Europe, doesn't mean it won't work in the states. I personally believe Who says worked because it sounds American, yet it's being released in Europe as the next single. I don't think it will do well, but that's just my opinion. They're not goin to spend money on ANOTHER video if they have one already filmed and ready.

EDIT: Not to mention, It's more balladic than Who says. Don't they usually release one Ballad like song in the 3 song single release schedule?

bjcrazycpa 03-17-2006 08:35 PM

I hear what everyone is saying about Welcome tanking in Europe but I still think that this song will be released as a single in North America. I guess time will tell.

deb

Captain_jovi 03-17-2006 08:40 PM

Agreed. I think it tanking in Europe has NOTHING to do with how it will do in America.

BOuNce_JOVI 03-17-2006 11:48 PM

crush: its mylife(tommy and gina in the video) say it isn t so(only internationally)(claudia schiffer,arnold californiator schwarzenegger and matt dylan?) thank you for loving me(rome) 1-2-3(two versions of each single:1.band 2.jon)-outtakes and live
bounce: everyday(VLA) missunderstood( a guy kinda like in the something for the pain video, just not going for music but for girls) all about loving you(sequeal to the missunderstood video) 2-5-6(two versions of each single:2and5:band-band aaly:band-jon)outtakes-demos-acoustic versions
HAND:hand(like bad medicine video but not everyone has a camcorder but a hand-smirkey welcometomypants(only internationally)who says u can t go home(jennifer version-band version-live version 1-3-4(13),wherever it s been on the setlist(box set live premiere-live from nokia theatre times square on HANDrelease day
so whatever way, of all three albums of the 3rd millenium 3 songs got released whatever way

haveaniceday 03-17-2006 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
Agreed. I think it tanking in Europe has NOTHING to do with how it will do in America.

That is just flat out stupid.

Captain Walrus 03-18-2006 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BOuNce_JOVI
crush: its mylife(tommy and gina in the video) say it isn t so(only internationally)(claudia schiffer,arnold californiator schwarzenegger and matt dylan?) thank you for loving me(rome) 1-2-3(two versions of each single:1.band 2.jon)-outtakes and live
bounce: everyday(VLA) missunderstood( a guy kinda like in the something for the pain video, just not going for music but for girls) all about loving you(sequeal to the missunderstood video) 2-5-6(two versions of each single:2and5:band-band aaly:band-jon)outtakes-demos-acoustic versions
HAND:hand(like bad medicine video but not everyone has a camcorder but a hand-smirkey welcometomypants(only internationally)who says u can t go home(jennifer version-band version-live version 1-3-4(13),wherever it s been on the setlist(box set live premiere-live from nokia theatre times square on HANDrelease day
so whatever way, of all three albums of the 3rd millenium 3 songs got released whatever way

What the hell ..... ?

Captain_jovi 03-18-2006 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by haveaniceday
That is just flat out stupid.

I firmly believe that. Europe and America just have different musical tastes sometimes. Explain why These Days tanked in the states and not in Europe if you're so sure. I'm really curious.

Who says did so well in the states because it's a heartland song. It's naive to think they tested Welcome out in Europe simply to see how it will do everywhere else.

haveaniceday 03-18-2006 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
I firmly believe that. Europe and America just have different musical tastes sometimes. Explain why These Days tanked in the states and not in Europe if you're so sure. I'm really curious.

Who says did so well in the states because it's a heartland song. It's naive to think they tested Welcome out in Europe simply to see how it will do everywhere else.

oh god...where do I start. You point to the performance of These Days to make your point, yet that is only one example. There are far more similarities in the performance of singles between America and Europe than there are dissimilarities. These Days was the the exception rather than the rule. You can search for how most of their singles have charted in both the U.S. and Europe and most are very similar.

Also, if Who Says is only a heartland song, why is it being released in Europe as their next single? And why was it only announced after the initial success of Who Says in the U.S?

Finally, explain why Welcome was nixed as the 2nd U.S. single after Jon himself said it would be the 2nd single in the States? You're telling me it had nothing to do with trying out different songs in different markets?

Its simply illogical to state that there is absolutely no connection between how singles perform in America and then separately in Europe.

Captain_jovi 03-18-2006 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by haveaniceday
oh god...where do I start. You point to the performance of These Days to make your point, yet that is only one example. There are far more similarities in the performance of singles between America and Europe than there are dissimilarities. These Days was the the exception rather than the rule. You can search for how most of their singles have charted in both the U.S. and Europe and most are very similar.

Also, if Who Says is only a heartland song, why is it being released in Europe as their next single? And why was it only announced after the initial success of Who Says in the U.S?

Finally, explain why Welcome was nixed as the 2nd U.S. single after Jon himself said it would be the 2nd single in the States? You're telling me it had nothing to do with trying out different songs in different markets?

Its simply illogical to state that there is absolutely no connection between how singles perform in America and then separately in Europe.

Wow.

Haha. You're absolutely right. I was out of line and wrong, my bad. Thanks for clearing it up, I think you're right.

phillygrl05 03-19-2006 01:57 AM

mmr in philly has been playing i want to be loved alot more than they play who says(which they usually play during the rock blocks of bon jovi)

bjcrazycpa 03-19-2006 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by phillygrl05
mmr in philly has been playing i want to be loved alot more than they play who says(which they usually play during the rock blocks of bon jovi)

That makes sense though as Who Says doesn't fit MMR's format and IWBL does.

deb

Captain Walrus 03-19-2006 03:07 AM

Quote:

Also, if Who Says is only a heartland song, why is it being released in Europe as their next single? And why was it only announced after the initial success of Who Says in the U.S?
Hmmmmm, did I miss something?

Captain_jovi 03-19-2006 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Walrus
Hmmmmm, did I miss something?

I'm just going by the Oompas but they're saying more than likely, Who says it the next single in Europe.

RyanBounce04 03-19-2006 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOuNce_JOVI
crush: its mylife(tommy and gina in the video) say it isn t so(only internationally)(claudia schiffer,arnold californiator schwarzenegger and matt dylan?) thank you for loving me(rome) 1-2-3(two versions of each single:1.band 2.jon)-outtakes and live
bounce: everyday(VLA) missunderstood( a guy kinda like in the something for the pain video, just not going for music but for girls) all about loving you(sequeal to the missunderstood video) 2-5-6(two versions of each single:2and5:band-band aaly:band-jon)outtakes-demos-acoustic versions
HAND:hand(like bad medicine video but not everyone has a camcorder but a hand-smirkey welcometomypants(only internationally)who says u can t go home(jennifer version-band version-live version 1-3-4(13),wherever it s been on the setlist(box set live premiere-live from nokia theatre times square on HANDrelease day
so whatever way, of all three albums of the 3rd millenium 3 songs got released whatever way

I refuse to read that because

1. You need to learn how to use the space bar.
2. You can't read that shit.
3. It most likely will make no sense.

Ryan

livinginsin 03-19-2006 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
I'm just going by the Oompas but they're saying more than likely, Who says it the next single in Europe.

Argh no! Bad decision, I can't see Who Says playing well over here at all. Why why why release it when they have I Am/IWBL/Last Man Standing/Novocaine (which I think would be huge) sitting on the album begging to be singles?!

Captain_jovi 03-19-2006 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by livinginsin
Argh no! Bad decision, I can't see Who Says playing well over here at all. Why why why release it when they have I Am/IWBL/Last Man Standing/Novocaine (which I think would be huge) sitting on the album begging to be singles?!

I must agree. I think Who says is an awful choice for Europe.

Javier 03-19-2006 05:02 AM

you guys should be working for universal.
And I should be doing my project.

JoviForever 03-19-2006 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
That's just being hopeful, saying they're not playing "I am" because it's going to be a single. Lots of songs just weren't played live. Some became singles ie All about loving you, some didn't, ie Women in Love. It could simply just mean they don't want to play it live for whatever reason.

Just because Welcome doesn't work in Europe, doesn't mean it won't work in the states. I personally believe Who says worked because it sounds American, yet it's being released in Europe as the next single. I don't think it will do well, but that's just my opinion. They're not goin to spend money on ANOTHER video if they have one already filmed and ready.

EDIT: Not to mention, It's more balladic than Who says. Don't they usually release one Ballad like song in the 3 song single release schedule?


How do you know 'Who Says' is being released in Europe? There is no word of that over here and it's not been announced on the bj.com website.
If it does get released I think it confirms that this band is now clueless when it comes to singles. Since Crush, with the exception of the first single, every subsequent single has been a complete waste of time. They keep choosing 'middle of the road' rubbish that has tanked and therefore not given the albums another boost.
This is particularly frustrating with HAND because they have at least 3 or 4 songs that could do so much better.
Certainly in the UK it will soon get to the stage where they will only release one single from each album because they are getting less and less successful.

Captain Walrus 03-19-2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviForever
How do you know 'Who Says' is being released in Europe? There is no word of that over here and it's not been announced on the bj.com website.
If it does get released I think it confirms that this band is now clueless when it comes to singles. Since Crush, with the exception of the first single, every subsequent single has been a complete waste of time. They keep choosing 'middle of the road' rubbish that has tanked and therefore not given the albums another boost.
This is particularly frustrating with HAND because they have at least 3 or 4 songs that could do so much better.
Certainly in the UK it will soon get to the stage where they will only release one single from each album because they are getting less and less successful.

I think Crush had reasonable singles, but they should probably have released a 4th

Captain Walrus 03-19-2006 03:55 PM

Question:
is this true I know that singles 1 and 2 are but #3 is it true??? Bon Jovi's long-awaited new album, Have a Nice Day, was released September 20th, 2005 (U.S.), followed by an international tour which kicked off in early November. The album topped the charts around the world, landing on the number two spot on Billboards the first week of sales. Bon Jovi had a career-best first week, selling over 202,000 albums. "Have a Nice Day" was the first single off the new album, and debuted at radio worldwide on July 18, 2005. The second single, "Who Says You Can't Go Home," has since debuted as well, including a duet version with country singer Jennifer Nettles of the band Sugarland. The third single off the album is entitled "Welcome to Wherever You Are."
asked by fireman897 on Thursday, March 2, 2006
Answer:
No idea where you got that information from but no, it's not accurate as of today (3/2/06.) In Europe, the first single was HAND, the second was Welcome To Wherever You Are and it *looks* like it will be WSYCGH. In the US, the first single was HAND, the second single is WSYCGH (with Jennifer Nettles at country and now at other non-country formats with the Bon Jovi version.) The song I Want To Be Loved was released to rock radio in the US. And there is no information on what will happen after Who Says You Can't Go Home runs its course in the US. Folks are just gonna have to wait and not believe everything they read the minute someone posts it!
answered by STAFF on Thursday, March 2 , 2006 5:46 PM

:(

JoviForever 03-19-2006 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus
I think Crush had reasonable singles, but they should probably have released a 4th


Thank You for Loving Me was cheesy and Say It Isn't So had no oomph!
Crush in my opinion is the weakest album the band has ever released with the exception of the first two - there weren't really many options on that album for singles. The best songs from the Crush period were B sides and Neurotica from the Japanese version!

If the oompas prediction is right about 'Who Says' I will be pulling my hair out!
I find it so frustrating that songs like 'Story Of My Life, I Am and I Wanna be Loved will just end up being ignored album tracks like 'Undivided' and 'The Distance' while middle of the road rubbish is released as singles!
I really seems like the band and/or the people who make these decisions have no idea.

Captain_jovi 03-19-2006 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus
Question:
is this true I know that singles 1 and 2 are but #3 is it true??? Bon Jovi's long-awaited new album, Have a Nice Day, was released September 20th, 2005 (U.S.), followed by an international tour which kicked off in early November. The album topped the charts around the world, landing on the number two spot on Billboards the first week of sales. Bon Jovi had a career-best first week, selling over 202,000 albums. "Have a Nice Day" was the first single off the new album, and debuted at radio worldwide on July 18, 2005. The second single, "Who Says You Can't Go Home," has since debuted as well, including a duet version with country singer Jennifer Nettles of the band Sugarland. The third single off the album is entitled "Welcome to Wherever You Are."
asked by fireman897 on Thursday, March 2, 2006
Answer:
No idea where you got that information from but no, it's not accurate as of today (3/2/06.) In Europe, the first single was HAND, the second was Welcome To Wherever You Are and it *looks* like it will be WSYCGH. In the US, the first single was HAND, the second single is WSYCGH (with Jennifer Nettles at country and now at other non-country formats with the Bon Jovi version.) The song I Want To Be Loved was released to rock radio in the US. And there is no information on what will happen after Who Says You Can't Go Home runs its course in the US. Folks are just gonna have to wait and not believe everything they read the minute someone posts it!
answered by STAFF on Thursday, March 2 , 2006 5:46 PM

:(

Thanks, saved me time.

anas_jovi 03-30-2006 03:00 PM

I WILL LOVE TO SEE THT .. man good choice....i personally feell it will be a big hit...


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