The Official October 2 Estadio Nacional del Perú, Lima, Perú Thread
Setlists, Predictions, Videos, Disappointments, Complaints...
The last time Bon Jovi played in Lima was on September 29, 2010, during The Circle tour. The setlist was as follows: 01. Blood on Blood 02. We Weren't Born to Follow 03. You Give Love a Bad Name 04. Whole Lot of Leavin' 05. Born to Be My Baby 06. Lost Highway 07. In These Arms 08. Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen From Mars 09. We Got it Going on 10. Bad Medcine [with Oh, Pretty Woman and Shout snippets] 11. It's My Life 12. Lay Your Hands on Me [Richie Vox] 13. I'll Be There For You 14. What Do You Got? 15. Have a Nice Day 16. Runaway 17. Who Says You Can't Go Home 18. Keep the Faith ---------------------------------- 19. Wanted Dead or Alive 20. Livin' on a Prayer ---------------------------------- 21. Always 2019 Setlist: TBA |
My prediction:
Jon permanently destroyed whatever bit of voice he had left in Rio and will have to cut off several songs from the printed setlist during the gig itself (like in Sonderborg or Bucharest in the summer, but even worse). |
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If it's gonna be like this then I was lucky to see him in Stockholm, the setlist that concert was slightly above average for THINFS too.
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Looks like a 17 song let's get it over with set
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My thoughts too as soon as I saw the set list.
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01. This House Is Not For Sale
02. Born To Be My Baby 03. Lost Highway 04. You Give Love A Bad Name 05. Roller Coaster 06- We Weren't Born To Follow 07. Blood On Blood 08. In These Arms 09. We Got It Going On 10. Keep The Faith 11. It's My Life 12. Lay Your Hands On Me 13. We Don't Run 14. Wanted Dead Or Alive 15. Bad Medicine Encore: 16. I'll Be There For You 17. Livin' On A Prayer What a joke to end the tour. Thinking about that the end of the last proper tour in 2013, despite Jon's vocals having gone to hell there as well, had 29 songs... |
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Kinda expected but very sad though. |
Damn! Looks like a rushed set, but I half expected it seeing as to how Rio was. A short-ish show can still be great but for a band with Bon Jovi's catalog to play less than 20 - 22 songs seems like a bit of a cop out. Hopefully the ones that attended had a great time, I just hope this is not a sign of what the future holds set list wise....
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What tells the story more than anything else, as far as I'm concerned, is the fact that the entire PBP for the very last show of any Bon Jovi tour consists of 5 posts, none of which are about the performance itself; and the entire show thread is less than one page.
Unless something changes significantly, I think it's pretty clear that even IF Bon Jovi isn't done, the fans are. :( |
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But I should have qualified by saying, it seems to me that the fans have given up, which may or may not be the case. It just occurred to me, too, that this may be the first time Jon has started promoting a new album while he's still touring in support of the latest release. Since he's already given us the name, talked about some of the songs, and mentioned an early Spring release, maybe fans are just done with this album and are ready to move on to the next. |
I always knew my country was weird, but not like this… >_< jajajajaj
Bed Of Roses wasn´t played and the Audible was Saturday Night, yeahhh it’s ALL my fault; I’ll Be There For You was Good! In general, it was a nice concert, shorter than the average which I think it’s Great! (since we ALL are old, and our feet get a little tired sooner >_< jajajajajaj) Anyway, I’m happy! and that’s all what it matter >_< jajajajaj P.S. Sorry for all my laughs, but I can’t help it! >_< jajajaj |
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Aloha !
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I reckon Tico and Dave's pay has increased because I can't imagine them going through all the hassle of customs, planes, customs, random hotels, stuck in traffic in cities they've never cared for just to cringe through these shows with the ultimate reward of a crowd cheering for what they know is an awful performance. Salaam Aleikum, Sebastiaan |
I hope they stop touring.. it’s awful.. and unlistenable.
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Okay, maybe I’m a little selfish (A LOT) but I really enjoyed the show, to be honest I enjoy everything. So please take my opinion without details O_O >_< jajajaj.
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Maybe Im wrong,but I dont remember a shorter show on a tour since The Jersey Syndicate tour.
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I do remember some KTF/NJ concerts being this short, Xavi.
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It's not anymore a matter of it being or not a good show. That was years ago when we talked about ad libs, outros, song choices, encores, surprises, etc.
It's like a degenerative disease, his voice could pull it off with caveats for a while but now it reached the point it just doesn't work. Time to pull the plug on music. Stop trying to cook without the key ingredient, it just doesn't work. It's not even worth listening to. I could read here on the board that they played Edge of a broken heart and I wouldn't be excited one bit. I know it won't work. |
So I went to La Trattoria di Mambrino Restaurant in Lima-Peru and I went to a private area and and and… I have a new trauma now! >_< jajajajaj (I love all my traumas… O_O >_< jajajaj)
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Bon Jovi in Peru 2019: 33,213 peeps
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Stop... It was good. End of the story.
PS Of course it's unlistenable 'cause that "quality" of the video stinks!!! JAJAJAJAJA |
Surprised they are not done after this tour with another album but doesn't surprise me that this show was horrendous, think we got lucky at Wembley where Jon could still just about manage the songs but something is seriously wrong with his vocals. Something mentioned maybe he had surgery and something went wrong.
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People have pointed to the fact that Jon noticably can't perform basic songs like Lost Highway,Born To Follow and Leavin' Goin On properly like he did years prior,when he performs those songs his tone is completely off and he's usually off tempo he kinda sounds breathy. His lower vocal register sounds fine it's actually deepened quite a bit since 2013,his mid range is somewhat shot,as for his high register it is also shot. Jon's mid register sounds shot because he seems to lack breathing support,the same goes for his high register. When you look at Jon's face when he performs songs like Born To Be Your Baby,Bad Name,It's My Life and Bad Medicine, he looks like he's going to pass out which means he is lacking breathing support to sustain the mids and highs in each song. There are two obvious scenarios that might have caused Jon's lack of breathing support, 1. Smoking (Not sure if he smokes these days but I heard he quit in 2010) 2. Jon had vocal cord surgery in an attempt to fix whatever was happening with his voice and it backfired on him and he lost any range he had left and affected his breathing when singing. There are obvious signs to support the latter,also in 2014 right up until the 2016 promo shows Jon sounded like Jon,he still had that distinct tone in his voice that even with your eyes closed you'd know it was JBJ singing. These days Jon sounds unrecognisable even his low registers sounds way different. Even a change in vocal technique isn't enough to completely change the tone in a singer's voice. |
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If it were down to smoking, he'd got to have a serious problem with his lungs to sound as horrible as he does (like the early stages of pulmonary fibrosis or something), and while I certainly think Jon is an applause junkie as well as has a deep penchant for the financial rewards of his job, I don't think he's either stupid or greedy enough to play live shows with a fatal disease and therefor rip off his fans for the sake of it. That said, he's been a smoker for the last 35 years at least, as some people here have said they saw Jon smoking off stage even as far back as on the Fahrenheit tour. He hid the habit from the public until the mid-1990s, and then, for a couple of years, it almost seemed like he was trying to make smoking a notable part of his image during the Destination Anywhere era, with him posing on many photos with a cigarette. As for what kind of a smoker he is, I tend to think of his smoking as "on-off-and-on-again". Yes, he's had a couple of minor breaks through the years, and I believe he really tried to quit in 2010 (as it seems he was cigarette-free for a good while, judging by the restored clarity of his voice back then), but in mid-to-late 2011 he was seen smoking again during the filming breaks of the movie New Year's Eve. I also saw (obviously then-recent) photos of him smoking on an interview for a Finnish music magazine around the release of WAN, so who knows what might or might not have happened/be happening with his health nowadays - we don't know for sure if he's smoking today or not, but judging by the overall fragility of his voice as well as his facial features that seem to have aged very rapidly for his standards during the last 4-5 years (lots of wrinkles appearing quite suddenly), that would be a credible explanation as well... :( |
Vocal surgery doesn't seem unlikely, not only due already mentioned facts, but also since Paul Stanley had openly talked about a similar treatment to "fix minor issues" and had dealt with similar problems ever since.
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