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bonjovi90 05-14-2018 08:57 PM

What's next?
 
Alright, time for some rounds of pure speculation again!
With just 3 more shows to go on this leg and nothing further announced so far, what will be the next step BJ are going to do?

Will they really tour Europe 2019 on the back of an album from 2016 which had widely gone unnoticed outside the fanbase anyway and which didn't even span a proper radio single?

Are they going back to the studio this fall for a new record? If so, what could it be about? Jon's main inspirations for THINFS, the record company turmoil and the departure of Richie, have mostly been solved I guess. Is there anything he has to say at the moment or could it lead to another WAN album?

Imagine they decide to go back to record. What line-up will it be? Phil X has posted recent videos of recording sessions for the new Drills album. I'm sure that's something he likes to promote after its release. But will he just be skipped on the studio work for most parts (like on the recent album) and return for a tour?
What is Shanks going to do? I think there's zero doubt he'd be the producer again, but will he have the desire to keep touring or was it just a commitment to his friend Jon who had gone through a rough time beforehand? I'm sure at the end of the day a producer wants to produce some artists as well.
Will Richie be involved in some way? Since RSO at least seem to be on hold at the end of the year (Ori has announced her solo record for that period), they might try to at least write some songs together again. Or will he re-join? If so, with Phil X or Shanks on board for live shows? I guess it all depends on how far things might've been settled during the course of the Hall of Fame event (I'm sure that they at least have talked about it in private at some point).

Or are they gonna call it quits?

DavetheGodofKeys 05-14-2018 09:03 PM

Didn't Jon say something about touring Japan and Australia later in the fall of 2018? I think it was at the red carpet at the IHeart radio awards where he said it.

bonjovi90 05-14-2018 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1241476)
Didn't just say something about touring Japan and Australia later in the fall of 2018? I think it was at the red carpet at the IHeart radio awards where he said it.

Yeah, but they also hinted at touring Europe this year and nothing came to fruition. So I just assumed that there won't be much more touring for this album :D

Butters 05-14-2018 09:09 PM

I truly hope that they stop now. The band is a shadow of itself and it was so sad to see what it had become at the R&R HOF. Much as I still enjoy the albums that they produce (I absolutely love THINFS), the band is dead. Jon can no longer sing. This is, needless to say, a fatal flaw for a rock and roll band.

A few old live shows; anniversary albums, or better yet, a second boxset would be a nice way to keep the material coming out over the next few years. If new material is produced then I would prefer to see these as JBJ solo projects.

This is all predicated on the assumption that Jon's voice does not improve. If for some reason he regains his voice and can actually sing in a reasonable way and deliver a two-hour concert then I would happily see Bon Jovi continuing.

Javier 05-14-2018 09:26 PM

The future of the band??
You have the evidence in front of you, When we Were Us and Walls. Both Phil and Shanks on guitars and Jon looking to emulate popular production to sound current.

No Jon solo, his creative outlet seems pretty fulfilled with the Bon Jovi brand, and his bond with Tico, Dave and the current guys seems to have gotten stronger.

Becky 05-15-2018 08:55 PM

I think they will continue to make new music because Jon has always emphasized that writing is his greatest passion in the music business. I think touring will be scaled back due to health issues. This was a band that never cancelled or rescheduled shows and illness led to shows being rescheduled last year and this year (and then there were Tico’s 2 emergency surgeries last tour).

But, really, I think they will continue to do whatever they want. There is literally nothing left to prove to anyone. Their career is one of the greatest in music history and they will remain a legendary act, no matter what.

WhamATC 05-17-2018 10:37 PM

Jon said he was gonna make a new album before and for the 2019 tour.

bonjovi90 05-17-2018 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WhamATC (Post 1241617)
Jon said he was gonna make a new album before and for the 2019 tour.

Yeah, he's said so, but he's a notorious liar as well (they all are) :D
And he's admitted to be one, so I take everything with a grain of salt and speculate what could happen;)

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241618)
Yeah, he's said so, but he's a notorious liar as well (they all are) :D

Could you be more specific with this? >_< jaja

JackieBlue 05-18-2018 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241619)
Could you be more specific with this? >_< jaja

More specific about Jon being a liar or the fact that they all are? ;)

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1241646)
More specific about Jon being a liar or the fact that they all are? ;)

Come on!
I was testing the boy...

jajaja

JackieBlue 05-18-2018 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241651)
Come on!
I was testing the boy...

jajaja

Oops! My bad. I would never want to interrupt a test.

Carry on. :)

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1241659)
Oops! My bad. I would never want to interrupt a test.

Carry on. :)

I do it all the time
but they don't respond... haha

captaincrash0815 05-18-2018 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WhamATC (Post 1241617)
Jon said he was gonna make a new album before and for the 2019 tour.

When did Jon say that ?

efpg0708 05-18-2018 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241619)
Could you be more specific with this? >_< jaja

We have rehearsed 75 + songs, we're digging deep into our catalogue for this tour, we play a completely diferent show every night ... I didn't know that the tickets were that expensive ... Here's our last hit, Rollercoaster ... the list goes on and on ...

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by efpg0708 (Post 1241694)
We have rehearsed 75 + songs, we're digging deep into our catalogue for this tour, we play a completely diferent show every night ... I didn't know that the tickets were that expensive ... Here's our last hit, Rollercoaster ... the list goes on and on ...

https://media.giphy.com/media/zFb0tZLXKyzMA/giphy.gif

>_< jajaj

BJFan99 05-18-2018 07:51 AM

What's next?

Hopefully nothing, unless Jon somehow manages to get his voice back to a listenable level. And after having listened to this, I don't think it's ever going to happen anymore.

https://youtu.be/BCcXnfkpl9k

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by captaincrash0815 (Post 1241689)
When did Jon say that ?

January radio interview...

captaincrash0815 05-18-2018 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241700)
January radio interview...

Have you a youtube link ?

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by captaincrash0815 (Post 1241702)
Have you a youtube link ?

I don't >_<
I just remember it from my head

BJFan99 05-18-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by captaincrash0815 (Post 1241702)
Have you a youtube link ?

In this interview:

http://dcs.megaphone.fm/DGT504821571...d67e6f4bd22261

bonjovi90 05-18-2018 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241619)
Could you be more specific with this? >_< jaja

We're going away for awhile after the 2011 tour to give everyone a break and pursue different things...
Because We Can is just the lead single, the rest of the album is much more different (when asked about the missing rock sound of BWC)...
What About Now is an album that we HAD to put out now because it captures the current economic and political state and wouldn't have fit in another timeframe...
We Weren't Born To Follow, that song, turned the world over...
We've never chased fads and fashions...
I'm feeling great vocally... (2018 - my favourite) :D

We change up the set every night, you never hear the same show twice (David and Tico)

Happy now? :cool::mrgreen:

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241712)
We're going away for awhile after the 2011 tour to give everyone a break and pursue different things...
Because We Can is just the lead single, the rest of the album is much more different (when asked about the missing rock sound of BWC)...
What About Now is an album that we HAD to put out now because it captures the current economic and political state and wouldn't have fit in another timeframe...
We Weren't Born To Follow, that song, turned the world over...
We've never chased fads and fashions...
I'm feeling great vocally... (2018 - my favourite) :D

We change up the set every night, you never hear the same show twice (David and Tico)

Happy now? :cool::mrgreen:

see, JackieBlue?
nobody gets it!

and they even think I don't know all of this... pfff

steel_horse75 05-18-2018 11:08 AM

They need to call it day. Thats next hopefully.

bonjovi90 05-18-2018 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241713)
see, JackieBlue?
nobody gets it!

and they even think I don't know all of this... pfff

You test and I answer, simple as that :p;)

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1241714)
They need to call it day. Thats next hopefully.

I gotta say I like all the comments of this guy... >_< jajaj

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241721)
You test and I answer, simple as that :p;)

https://media.giphy.com/media/oj0z2AwO8Llkc/giphy.gif

>_< jaja

JackieBlue 05-18-2018 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241713)
see, JackieBlue?
nobody gets it!... pfff

That's probably because we've been challenged so many times by those who seem to truly believe that Jon always speaks "the truth, the whole truth (my personal favorite), and nothing but the truth; so help me God!" Or to paraphrase an old Southern Gospel song: Jon said it, they believe it, and that settles it for them. He has told us everything there is to know about all things Bon Jovi; and anyone who questions that is just developing conspiracy theories to stir up trouble.

I have to admit that I was preparing my own list until I saw your ">_< jajaj" and realized you were probably just yanking bonjovi90's chain. The only part i had trouble with was choosing which "specifics" to include. ;)

God knows, I love the man; but he lies like a rug. In a used-car saleman's office. :D

JackieBlue 05-18-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241721)
You test and I answer, simple as that :p;)

For a pop quiz, I'd have to say that both you and efpg0708 did pretty well. There were others you could have included; but assuming that you answered with the first specifics that came to mind, I'd give you both a solid "A" for effort! :p

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1241725)
That's probably because we've been challenged so many times by those who seem to truly believe that Jon always speaks "the truth, the whole truth (my personal favorite), and nothing but the truth; so help me God!" Or to paraphrase an old Southern Gospel song: Jon said it, they believe it, and that settles it for them. He has told us everything there is to know about all things Bon Jovi; and anyone who questions that is just developing conspiracy theories to stir up trouble.

That’s one of the few things that piss me off, I mean we all are free, we can say whatever we want (tell me! that I say crazy things all the time jajaj), don’t let anyone take away your freedom

-_-

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1241726)
For a pop quiz, I'd have to say that both you and efpg0708 did pretty well. There were others you could have included; but assuming that you answered with the first specifics that came to mind, I'd give you both a solid "A" for effort! :p

since I’m on vacation and I have literally “nothing” to do, I would like to read your list >_< lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/Xopb95ASFLAaI/giphy.gif

nikos greece 05-18-2018 07:00 PM

what the future holds for bon jovi???

1. i d like to see jon and richie get back together quietly alone or with another song writer as well and work on new songs...it will be evident if there is still sth to be said if the songwriting process starts... i hope jon gives richie that chance and richie bring his a game...

2. i d like to see some fan releases, the hof induction is the best opportunity for bj to release 3-4-5 historic live shows from the past, to show what a great live band the are... there is a team of technicians who could work magic in certain live shows...we all know certain favorites show from the past...in order to reduce the cost the could be free in youtube, or high quality downloads for 10 bucks for example....i d love to see quality shows from new jersey-ktf-these days-hand for example...:-D

3. a boxset of unreleased material like 100.000.000 fans...


4. i think it would be great if jon and richie did a mini tour in theaters with the band, in an intimate setting across theaters, where they would showcase a different setlist, some rearranged songs, b tracks, some new covers, sth different with a new vibe

Eveline 05-18-2018 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1241735)
what the future holds for bon jovi???

1. i d like to see jon and richie get back together quietly alone or with another song writer as well and work on new songs...it will be evident if there is still sth to be said if the songwriting process starts... i hope jon gives richie that chance and richie bring his a game...

2. i d like to see some fan releases, the hof induction is the best opportunity for bj to release 3-4-5 historic live shows from the past, to show what a great live band the are... there is a team of technicians who could work magic in certain live shows...we all know certain favorites show from the past...in order to reduce the cost the could be free in youtube, or high quality downloads for 10 bucks for example....i d love to see quality shows from new jersey-ktf-these days-hand for example...:-D

3. a boxset of unreleased material like 100.000.000 fans...


4. i think it would be great if jon and richie did a mini tour in theaters with the band, in an intimate setting across theaters, where they would showcase a different setlist, some rearranged songs, b tracks, some new covers, sth different with a new vibe

It all sounds like fantasy and man, I'd love to jump into that world right away! *_*

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1241735)
2. i d like to see some fan releases, the hof induction is the best opportunity for bj to release 3-4-5 historic live shows from the past, to show what a great live band the are... there is a team of technicians who could work magic in certain live shows...we all know certain favorites show from the past...in order to reduce the cost the could be free in youtube, or high quality downloads for 10 bucks for example....i d love to see quality shows from new jersey-ktf-these days-hand for example...:-D

This girl write articles for the fan club and works with David Bergman, I responded with something like this, she’s going to send the feedback to Matt (of course they not going to listen to me, but anyway -_-)

https://twitter.com/JustChar83/statu...08438111129601

YOVANAfromPeru 05-19-2018 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1241725)
until I saw your ">_< jajaj"

btw the ja ji jo ju is a latin thing, they say all the latins are crazy, why???!! >_< jajaj
ask to Tico: https://www.instagram.com/p/BbTVMtNHctg/

JackieBlue 05-19-2018 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241728)
since I’m on vacation and I have literally “nothing” to do, I would like to read your list >_< lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/Xopb95ASFLAaI/giphy.gif

I doubt there's anything there that you haven't seen. I've posted most of the stuff that's on it, at one time or another; so most of these guys have already seen it. It's just a rehash of contradictions that I've pointed out before and, quite frankly, a lot of people would prefer to ignore most of it. It would likely just stir up a bunch of bitching, and derail the thread from its original topic, if I posted it here; so I'll PM you.

YOVANAfromPeru 05-19-2018 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1241754)
I doubt there's anything there that you haven't seen. I've posted most of the stuff that's on it, at one time or another; so most of these guys have already seen it. It's just a rehash of contradictions that I've pointed out before and, quite frankly, a lot of people would prefer to ignore most of it. It would likely just stir up a bunch of bitching, and derail the thread from its original topic, if I posted it here; so I'll PM you.

Okay
yeah I read your posts before...
no, don’t PM me, ‘cause if I start with that it will never ends, so I never read PM’s -_-

P.S. I love all the off topic’s >_< jajaj

JackieBlue 05-19-2018 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241755)
Okay
yeah I read your posts before...
no, don’t PM me, ‘cause if I start with that it will never ends, so I never read PM’s -_-

P.S. I love all the off topic’s >_< jajaj

I like them, too, especially when they flow naturally from the thread's topic. They usually find their way back around to the topic anyway. But I guess it does make it more difficult for the mods if it gets heated, or if people complain about it (which seems to happen right after it leads into a discussion they don't agree with or like thinking about). But it is what it is.

JackieBlue 05-19-2018 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1241735)
what the future holds for bon jovi???

1. i d like to see jon and richie get back together quietly alone or with another song writer as well and work on new songs...it will be evident if there is still sth to be said if the songwriting process starts... i hope jon gives richie that chance and richie bring his a game...

2. i d like to see some fan releases, the hof induction is the best opportunity for bj to release 3-4-5 historic live shows from the past, to show what a great live band the are... there is a team of technicians who could work magic in certain live shows...we all know certain favorites show from the past...in order to reduce the cost the could be free in youtube, or high quality downloads for 10 bucks for example....i d love to see quality shows from new jersey-ktf-these days-hand for example...:-D

3. a boxset of unreleased material like 100.000.000 fans...


4. i think it would be great if jon and richie did a mini tour in theaters with the band, in an intimate setting across theaters, where they would showcase a different setlist, some rearranged songs, b tracks, some new covers, sth different with a new vibe

I like the way you think. :D

Falco 05-19-2018 05:32 AM

After this tour I'd love for their team to start releasing live shows from the past, like Bruce Springsteen is doing now on his website. Release a couple full shows from each tour they've done.

I'd personally love to have Anaheim 2003 of the Bounce tour and that epic performance of Keep The Faith as the Iraq war started. There's so much passion and energy in that performance and the bomb noises with the jungle noise.


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