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thesedays2014 11-29-2016 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1215579)
It is a very respectable opinion. But of course I do not share it. Nobody said that Hardwired is a masterpiece, obviously it is not a perfect album, but it is very enjoyable, and especially accessible, something that were not the latest releases of metallica. There are a lot of references to all his albums and also to other bands that have influenced Metallica, but for some strange reason, this mix works very well for me. It sounds cool, there are great voices, good riffs, groovy songs, it's a solid album despite its flaws. And yes, the album grows over time.

And in my opinion, I hope someday Jon make a record as satisfying as this. I can not credit Jon because what he have done with This House Is Not For Sale is basically the same from 2000 until now. Jon is don't take Keep The Faith, These Days or New Jersey and SWW, ok, but is influenced by Have A Nice Day, Lost Highway and WAN, its worse version. This House is an album that also reminds me of a lot of songs that before became much better, but I understand that even though it is not perfect, it is not bad.

It seems like we have a way to measure different for both bands, I understand, we are Bon Jovi fans first, no problem, but both have some problems when it comes to creating something original, at least metallica tries to use the best of their repertoire to make a good song, Jon though ...

I love both bands, and And I am aware of their weaknesses. This House is ok, Hardwired feels very good.



Agree 100% [emoji4]


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Jeeper 11-29-2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1215577)
I'm torn on this one... I like it a lot but don't love it... Something is missing... It's like I've heard all this before but better versions... It's almost like these are the And Justice For All B-Sides... Spit Out The Bone? Really? In 2016?



I know I'm alone on this one but this is where I credit Jon for never wanting to repeat the same album twice... I think musically it's there, lyrically not, and the attitude seems a little forced...



And Justice For All was their musical peak imo... Although the Black album (along with Load and Reload) solidified them into that mainstream top 40 commercial success category, And Justice For All was the album that got them there... 'One' is obviously a classic... Then you got Ride The Lighting, Fade To Back, Master Of Puppets, For Whom The Bell Tolls, it's just an endless list of beauties that are so well written lyrically that none of these songs can even compare... I'm not one for comparing albums to the past but if you are going to put out an album like it's the mid 80's, I'm going to compare it to the mid 80's..



With all that said, having this sound back is a breath of fresh air!!! I don't give it the same praise that everyone else is but It sounds like classic Metallica and for that, I gotta love it... Maybe with a few more listens, it's grow on me some more...



I agree here. I've listened to the new album and I like it. But there's not a "wow" song on it. It's very solid and well produced. I love Metallica and think they are the best thrash metal band ever. (I know they have crossed over into other genres at times)

I think Hardwired is good. But it for me feels a little predictable. At their best they combined ferocious riffs with fantastic melody.

I actually think Broken, Beat & Scarred is a perfect recent example of this. That's a classic modern day Metallica song for me.

I'm still enjoying Hardwired and think it's got a lot of good songs. There's not anything negative to say about it. Not being on a par with RTL, MOP, AJFA or the Black album doesn't make it bad. Very few albums can touch those.

Good effort.


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steel_horse75 11-29-2016 11:08 AM

Spit out the bone is great

some of the tracks on disc 1 sound like they couldve come off the black album

my least fav? Hardwired to self destruct. Does nothing for me

rokenrola 11-29-2016 11:20 PM

the best Metallica albums are Black,Load and Reload and at that time James sings very nice and listenable,from then to now everything is about banging and the way he sings now FROM THE BALLS is really annoying and not good for ears,what I specialy dont like it is running time of songs,too freaking longgggg

Jeeper 11-30-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rokenrola (Post 1215599)
the best Metallica albums are Black,Load and Reload and at that time James sings very nice and listenable,from then to now everything is about banging and the way he sings now FROM THE BALLS is really annoying and not good for ears,what I specialy dont like it is running time of songs,too freaking longgggg



Reload is disappointing for me. I really like Load & obviously The Black album is a classic.

But Metallica are at their best on Master Of Puppets. The other 80's albums are all great with some outstanding songs on them. But Puppets will always be my fav. The fury on Battery - "smashing through the boundaries lunacy has found me" - God almighty that song wants to hurt you!

Just a great great album.


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thesedays2014 11-30-2016 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rokenrola (Post 1215599)
the best Metallica albums are Black,Load and Reload and at that time James sings very nice and listenable,from then to now everything is about banging and the way he sings now FROM THE BALLS is really annoying and not good for ears,what I specialy dont like it is running time of songs,too freaking longgggg



Can tell you're a Jovi fan [emoji23]

Metallica were, are and always will be a different band. Their musical creativity high was AJFA; the 90s were full of commercial experiments (never a fan of the Black Album, but like Load and Reload); Saint Anger was Saint Anger; Death Magnetic was a 'could have been' record if produced well and Hardwired ****IN ROCKS!!!!

Could you imagine Jovi taking 8 years to come out with a new record and then it being a mix between Bon Jovi, Slippery, Jersey, Faith and These Days but with a modern and fresh touch (without surpassing those albums as albums, all must be said)...that's Metallica today [emoji869][emoji869][emoji869]


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rolo_tomachi 12-01-2016 12:45 AM



Metallica: Behind the Hardwired... Photo Shoot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=xYrR2Bdzao0

rokenrola 12-02-2016 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thesedays2014 (Post 1215607)
Can tell you're a Jovi fan [emoji23]

Metallica were, are and always will be a different band. Their musical creativity high was AJFA; the 90s were full of commercial experiments (never a fan of the Black Album, but like Load and Reload); Saint Anger was Saint Anger; Death Magnetic was a 'could have been' record if produced well and Hardwired ****IN ROCKS!!!!

Could you imagine Jovi taking 8 years to come out with a new record and then it being a mix between Bon Jovi, Slippery, Jersey, Faith and These Days but with a modern and fresh touch (without surpassing those albums as albums, all must be said)...that's Metallica today [emoji869][emoji869][emoji869]


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I am Jovi fan but Metallica is number 5 on my list. Like you said they are different band,they are trash metal band,Jovi is rock band,different audience too,I dont see that combination albums in one Jovi album,they can do experiment,I dont care if they sell much or dont,I like new album a lot,it is different and fresh for me but Metallica album is not fresh,it is pretty much same old stuff,fast and hard songs and too long also.
Alter Bridge new album is better for me,not the mention album before that Fortress,Megadeth last album is better for me.
Every band wants to be commercial and sell a lot,the best commercial period for Metalica is from 1991 to 1997.
I listen Hardwired couple of times and I cant remember one song from beginning to end,not moving by,it is just my feeling.
I am very glad they do well in sales and concerts ;)

rolo_tomachi 12-02-2016 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rokenrola (Post 1215702)
I am Jovi fan but Metallica is number 5 on my list. Like you said they are different band,they are trash metal band,Jovi is rock band,different audience too,I dont see that combination albums in one Jovi album,they can do experiment,I dont care if they sell much or dont,I like new album a lot,it is different and fresh for me but Metallica album is not fresh,it is pretty much same old stuff,fast and hard songs and too long also.

This new album is not fast, friend, is varied and only has 2 or 3 fast songs. Has some heavy and others that are not heavy. There are also fresh songs that feel new in your catalog. And this last album, despite being 2 discs, contains 12 songs, and feels shorter than Load, Death Magnetic or St Anger.

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Metallica: European Promo Tour Recap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=ugtLKmDbrZA



Jeeper 12-05-2016 08:20 AM

Still enjoying the new album. Very good effort.

On a side note - top 3 underrated Metallica songs?

1. The God That Failed
2. The Frayed Ends Of Sanity
3. Leper Messiah


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rolo_tomachi 12-13-2016 12:23 AM

I love this song. James sings pretty cool.


I can't wait the making of Studio Spit out the Bone and Halo on Fire.

rolo_tomachi 12-15-2016 09:49 PM



steel_horse75 01-04-2017 11:13 AM

Got hard wired on vinyl for Xmas and picked up Garage Days on double vinyl for 17 from HMV

rolo_tomachi 01-14-2017 02:37 PM

Halo on Fire - Live FIRST EVER

Now That We're Dead - Live FIRST EVER

Confusion - Live FIRST EVER

rolo_tomachi 01-28-2017 09:24 PM

Halo on fire live in Hong Kong with new intro

Fantastic live versions.




yomamasofat 03-02-2017 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1215934)
Still enjoying the new album. Very good effort.

On a side note - top 3 underrated Metallica songs?

1. The God That Failed
2. The Frayed Ends Of Sanity
3. Leper Messiah


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The new album is very good. I enjoy it, there are a couple of killer songs that I'd consider classic: the title track and Moth Into Flame.

And yeah Leper Messiah is underrated - that is a great song.

rolo_tomachi 03-02-2017 11:14 PM

The God That Failed, The Frayed Ends Of Sanity and Leper Messiah are ****ing amazing songs.

KSantaFe 03-04-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1220034)
The God That Failed, The Frayed Ends Of Sanity and Leper Messiah are ****ing amazing songs.

Absolutely. Leper Messiah never gets enough love imo, and neither does Disposable Heroes. Frayed Ends is a monster, and of course The God That Failed has special place in their catalog due to it's implicit reference to Hetfield's family upbringing, or lack of.

I also think that these songs are underrated:
- Bleeding Me
- 2x4
- Ronnie
- No Remorse
- Jump In The Fire
- Dirty Window
- All Within My Hands
- Devil's Dance
- Bad Seed
- Eye Of The Beholder
- Am I Savage?
- ManUNKind

steel_horse75 03-07-2017 04:59 PM

Bleedin Me and Outlaw Torn are phenomenal songs. Probably my fav two songs of theirs.

rolo_tomachi 03-07-2017 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1220397)
Bleedin Me and Outlaw Torn are phenomenal songs. Probably my fav two songs of theirs.

The S&M live versions of those songs are awesome.

steel_horse75 03-07-2017 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1220399)
The S&M live versions of those songs are awesome.

They sure are

rolo_tomachi 03-09-2017 06:43 PM


rolo_tomachi 03-14-2017 10:12 PM

Metallica Hardwired To Selft-Destruct is back on the top of the Billboard 200.

https://fotos.subefotos.com/46ae3eaa...5d6e8984fo.jpg
http://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200

Awesome!

steel_horse75 03-15-2017 12:03 PM

It was Metallicas anniversary of their first show yesterday.

March 14th 1982 or 83 - cant remember now! haha.

steel_horse75 03-15-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1220856)
Metallica Hardwired To Selft-Destruct is back on the top of the Billboard 200.

https://fotos.subefotos.com/46ae3eaa...5d6e8984fo.jpg
http://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200

Awesome!

Amazing really. Not many bands can do that.

PS - looking at that top 10, wow, the other 9 are dreadful.

rolo_tomachi 03-19-2017 09:17 PM

If Metallica played Moth Into Flame at Seattle 1989


Lmafo

Jeeper 03-27-2017 12:47 PM

There really are some exceptional Metallica covers on YouTube. Can't think of another band that has more quality uploads.


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KSantaFe 03-27-2017 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1221781)
There really are some exceptional Metallica covers on YouTube. Can't think of another band that has more quality uploads.


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Agreed... both metal and non-metal renditions. Love this one in particular: https://youtu.be/h7yRjD5yLv4?t=1m44s

steel_horse75 03-27-2017 03:20 PM

Got my tickets for the O2 via my mate at the label. 200 saved!

rolo_tomachi 05-19-2017 12:46 AM

This is ****ing Great Superb!

Rdkopper 05-19-2017 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1224590)
This is ****ing Great Superb!

Amazing!!!

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rolo_tomachi 05-21-2017 02:42 PM

Hardwired (Uniondale NY)

Atlas Rise! (Baltimore MD)

Confusion (Mexico City)

Dream No More (Mexico City)

The band are rehearsing Spit Out The Bone, soon they will play it live, according to a backstage source, the premiere will be early this summer, they want to rehearse it well, they don't want to defraud their audience, they know it's a much-loved and expected song.

Here Comes The Revenge is also in the tuning room to be played at any time.

rolo_tomachi 05-21-2017 10:04 PM

GREAT vocals

Rdkopper 05-22-2017 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1224644)

Brilliant!!! They matured into the band the way I was hoping Bon Jovi would be at this point when I was looking ahead 20 years ago.... Metallica did it right...

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rolo_tomachi 05-25-2017 08:38 PM


rolo_tomachi 06-04-2017 10:12 PM

Amazing show in Baltimore. That's what a great stadium band sounds like.

Rdkopper 06-05-2017 04:22 AM

Amazing!

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Walleris 06-05-2017 09:59 AM

Indeed! James sounds much better than he did in the early to mid 2000s. Much like Jon he had a bit of renaissance around 8-9 years ago, but actually managed to maintain it until today and perhaps got even better.

But the whole arrangement is also great. The intro is immense. It's always nice to see bands go the extra mile for little things like this. If Bon Jovi played a rarity like this they would've just skipped the intro and went straight into guitars, e.g. they didn't even bother to play a simple keyboard intro to Story of My Life and it's been ages since we last had the proper into for Lay Your Hands On Me.

rolo_tomachi 06-06-2017 08:41 PM



Every time they sound better. They are rehearsing the rest of songs from the new album and some old songs like Eye of the Beholder and Aint My Bitch. They are very happy with the reception of the album.


Atlas Rise! Now is a monster on live, I remember when they played it at first that wasn't not sound so good, James had trouble singing it, but now he has grown and is impressive.


Jeeper 06-10-2017 10:08 AM

Metallica have aged incredibly well. They still sound tight (ignore the whole Lars debate) and James still generally sounds great.




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