Man that is shit!!!

Right! How bad is that?!? God damn painful. I mean - honestly, I prefer Richie doing Wonderwall with a bad English accent to that.

I like Phil X but that is properly properly poor. Sounds like Bill and Ted's band trying to play Randy Rhoads licks on top of a really old and damaged Eagles bootleg...pain pain pain!

PHIL X Steal Away The Night RANDY RHOADS REMEMBERED

I love this guitar!! Looks and sounds amazing!!!

Post this obscure shit in the other bands board, douche face.

A bit uncalled for, don't you think?

No, It's a Phil X video, I posted it in the Phil X thread. If one of the mods chooses to move it to the other bands board then it will be there, it they don't then it won't. Feel free to not click on it or reply to it and even, check this out I know this might be out there for someone like you but hear me out, ignore it *gasp*..... Good day douche face!!! :)

Jon BonJovi & PhilX, 02.08.2014

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuGCIdFIYAMQjxo.jpg:large

He sounds like what he is... an average guitar player with a mediocre vocal.

anyone dissing this hotel california performance needs their head checked.

amazing. i dont rate the guy but he is incredible as a geetar player x

Agreed - that just blew me away. To be clear the guitar not the vocals LOL

Aloha !

It's not doing much for me either. I won't say he's a bad guitar player, but that guitar solo is pretty much the exact guitar solo Don Felder and Joe Walsh play, with the exception of the last 20 odd seconds. There's nothing special about that, really.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Didn't do much for me. Agree with Seb, it's pretty much like the original but without the soul...

Guess this is why I was always more into guys like Richie than EVH. Technically a great performance from Phil, just like he did with Jovi but it's a session player's solo... a VERY good session player but still.

You think Eddie plays without soul?

I'd say that.

EvH is an enormous talent but for me, personally, there's little heart in what he does. Doesn't mean it can't touch the person listening but in my opinion, it leaves me amazed at his skill and completely cold.

He's the total opposite to a raw guitarist who attacks the instrument, like Joe Perry.

Completely agree, that's the best post i've seen on here in ages.

Ah fair enough mate. This is not a Van Halen forum and I respect your opinion anyway.

Phil X isn't anywhere near as good as Van Halen though, and to be honest for different reasons he isn't anywhere as good as Richie at his best either. In fact, I think X is a bit shit, but I don't want to get flamed by some who think he is amazing just cause he stepped in.

While I'm sure there are people who are making the argument that Phil is better because he stepped in, I firmly believe Phil is a better player than Richie is NOW. Or at least the last ten years. The past is a totally different argument, Richie has just gotten very sloppy in his playing. Sometimes he shines but it's a lot of bum notes and repetitive scales.

I am the first to say that Richie has fallen a long way. It has been a long time since he impressed me, and worse than that he is as you say, sloppy (beyond belief sometimes). That's why I qualified what I said with at his best, which I admit has been a long time gone.

That said, I am not entirely sure I prefer Phil X. He is in better technical shape, but does nothing for me, just like Richie doesn't at the moment.

So when would you consider Richie to be at his best? Personally I feel that Richie solo projects has never brought out the best in him, and probably never will.

That's because with his solo projects he never focussed on making a big guitar record but on being a lead singer.

great acoustic guitar playing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLSsD...ature=youtu.be

Stairway To Hell! :)

And he said it was John Shanks who recommended him to Jon, not Aldo Nova or anyone from that era.

Ice

Interesting that well before anything happened he was already being kept on call just in case.

Yeah, very interesting indeed. Wonder how long exactly he had to learn the songs (how many weeks it really was).

That explains why he filled in so good the first time in, and takes a bit of the nimbus of him just being so good away. Also interesting that Jon saw that coming - wonder how/why or if he/the band actually talked Richie into going into rehab?

I think that Jon have hired some musicians to be ready just in case. Let's say David is sick, there must be someone to replace him for one or two shows. The show must go on! It's the same case with Tico and Rio 2013.

Just like that, Phil was always ready and waiting for a call. He was ready even before 2011, when he took Richie's place for a month.

Yeah, probably true and wise of him to do so. But if I recall correctly, the way Phil told the story in the video is that he was contacted a couple of weeks before he had to fill in, not before the tour or the first leg. So maybe Jon was just reacting to Richie's deteriorating condition or so...

That's what I thought as well. Phil said Jon wanted him to learn the songs for a possible fill-in in May. Since the leg had a break after the Vancouver show in late March Jon probably was more aware of Richie's condition than the general public or the fans. He might've known Richie was thinking about checking into rehab again (or at least that he probably needed to) and therefore concerned as to whether he was going to be able to play the leg in May.

You don't do that. That's like having a second wife in the wings waiting for the first one to get sick.

Phil X was on hold because Jon knew Richie would do one thing or the other. There must've been something happening between Jon & Richie we don't know about to make Jon nervous about Richie not finishing the tour. But I can guarantee you that Bon Jovi, or any other band for that matter, do not have a reserve of musicians to jump on the stage in case of an emergency. It just doesn't happen. If someone gets sick, the show gets cancelled or a drum or guitar technician gets to play, or something like that. It would cost an arm and a leg to keep professional musicians on stand by.

Ice

I'd be really interested in who he has on hold for the case that he can't perform :D

Of course you do that. It's business. Bon Jovi is a brand, they are pro.
Think of Rio 2013... What would happen if there wasn't the guy who filled for Tico? Bon Jovi would cancel Rio. And maybe next time they won't be accepted in Rio or other big festival. Jon (and his promo business) doesn't want that.

Of course Rio is different from the regular shows. As you can recall, they postpone some regular shows because of Tico.

And then we have Richie. From the beginning of the tour, he wasn't really there and willing to stay. Think like Jon now "if Richie go away, I would have to stop the tour, 100+ shows! No, this is catastrophe!"

So what's the solution to be always ready for such things? Have a bunch of musicians (except a singer of course, Jon is THE brand :P ) to be always ready!

It's not a love story, it's business.

....and hundreds of employees or crew members who must be paid

If you do not know about how the business works, you really shouldn't be saying anything about it.

No, it does NOT work like that. Bands, big or small, do NOT have backup people waiting to be called onto the stage. First of all, having people like Phil X on hold for whole tours would cost a LOT. And if you don't pay them, they won't be on hold. They're doing their own things.

There was nobody to fill in for Tico. They had to get someone once they knew Tico couldn't play. Rich Scanella wasn't on hold, he didn't even know the songs. The reason he played there was that Jon knew him and had played with him previously. If he couldn't have done it, someone else would've been chosen. They DO NOT have anyone standing by in case of an emergency. No band does.

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...pitalized.html

Yes, that's what usually happens when a band member gets sick. So, you see, they don't have any backup players anywhere waiting. Because no one does that!

Richie was a totally different, isolated thing. He'd gone into rehab before, and they had Phil X learn the set and play the few shows. Jon knew Richie was going to have problems sooner or later, so he played it safe. But still, Phil X wasn't on stand by, he wasn't paid to wait. If he couldn't have done the gig, someone else would have.

And again, and I can not stress this enough, there are no other musicians waiting to be called to play with Bon Jovi. Or any other band for that matter.

Yes, it's very much a business. Which is why you don't pay people to wait. Professional musicians aren't cheap labor. Even Bon Jovi don't have the money to spend for people just waiting. It just doesn't happen. Ask anyone who's ever been on tour if they had people as backups. Ask any manager, any tour manager, any band. It just doesn't happen. I know, you think you do.

Ice

Phil X @ Randy Rhoads Remembered NAMM Jam 2015 - The Observatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tx4...421914688#t=23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-c...-ts=1421914688

That was awesome!!

Guitar - Yes!
Vocals - Damn, that's bad. Or well, no, horrific.

I wonder who Jon would hired to replace him? Obie?

Jon is lucky to have the KOS fill in for players if needed. There is a bass player, drummer, keyboardist who can play a standard amount of Jovi songs. Jon could also pull out an acoustic set or a partial one. Plus, there are professionals out there who could do a basic set by ear if Jon had to do a show in an emergency situation. Lastly, I'm sure they have tracks prerecorded to fill in some gaps as well.

The guy from the KOS who replaced Tico in Rio did an outstanding job. He was probably familiar with most of the songs from the KOS shows and for the other songs, he just played some basic beats by ear.

I think we all know that the best choise for every instrument is Mr. Santa Bandiera.