Bon Jovi and Skid Row
Did Jon and/or Richie helped on the writting or production of the first Skid Row record? Neither of them have any credits on the album but Jon was promoting the band at that time....
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There are rumours that they at least helped writing "18&Life" and "I Remember You" since these songs differ pretty drastically from the rest of the album. Some even go as far as saying that they stem from the New Jersey writing sessions.
However, nothing's been ever confirmed about that. |
There's a few threads about this if you use the search function, this this one's quote comprehensive;
https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-j...y-skid-t52155/ |
Jon and Richie had publishing rights which pretty much equates with being songwriters. There have always been rumors of them ghostwriting for Skid Row and Gorky Park. Jon has publicly said he’s written for Skid Row, but he’s never been credited on an album. This was when he was talking about writing for other artists in general. He said their name along with other artists. It wasn’t a conversation about Skid Row.
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I'm out on tour with Skid Row atm; I'm trying to work out a polite way to ask if they have any Richie info. Might subtly try bringing this up too!
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I know, but there were rumors that some of the other songs were written by them as well.
That was a goo CD. I need to find it. ETA: It’s on Amazon Prime, so I’m listening to it now. It’s weird how I can remember every word of these songs that I have not listened to in probably 20 years, but I can’t tell you what I did last Wednesday. Aging is so much fun. |
Bon Jovi and Skid Row
Jbj May have been in the same room when 18 & Life was written and thrown a few ideas in but he never “wrote it”.
He Certainly didn’t write anything on Slave to the grind and Subhuman race. I can hear Jbjs influence in the song that was only released for the skid row greatest hits - Forever. That was wrote for debut skid row album but never used. |
Snake Sabo has said in interviews that they would take songs to Jon and Richie to listen to and they would tell them the song wasn't good enough and they'd go back and work on it more.
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TMZ asked Sebastian Bach about the Taylor Swift feud with Scooter Braun about owning her masters and in the video he says he heard a couple years ago that the masters of Skid Row's first album were lost. He said he doesn't know if it's true or not or if they're in Jon's basement or what, but that he doesn't really care.
I know the fight over their publishing has been discussed here over the years, but this is the first I've heard him say he's pretty much over it. https://www.tmz.com/2019/07/05/skid-...er-recordings/ |
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Snake Sabo thanked to Jon Bon Jovi on the Austria shows to give him the oportunity to tour again after all these years...
Now that I saw both bands separated I think I like both lol https://www.instagram.com/p/BcSbymAHjl6/ https://www.instagram.com/p/B0CXaDLADLm/ |
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If I remember correctly there is video when Jon is driving by car and sait - here we wrote with Skid Row "18 And Life".
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From 1:28 onwards ;) |
Interesting thanks. Although he never says that "he" wrote it there, just that "it" was written there and that Rachel and Snake came over and played him their ideas for the song...open to interpretation though for sure.
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He didn’t. Sabo and bolan played Jon all the songs they had wrote for the first album and Jon gave them advise on tweaking certain things and potential final track listing. I’d have put forever and rescue you on the debut album. Great tracks. But Jon and Richie didn’t write 18 & life or any other skid row song Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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My personal fav of the demo tracks by these guys is still Edge of the Night. |
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Shame shame, behind the 8 ball are also great. But there’s something about rescue you that just hits the sweet spot. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
Sebastian Bach interview, a lot of Bon Jovi mentions... https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...w-tour-851928/ (complete interview)
Today, are you on good or bad terms with the Bon Jovi guys? I’m on good terms with them. I saw Richie in Vegas. We did a song together with Dee Snider onstage for a charity thing. Before, a couple years back in the Mandarin Oriental Hotel, Jon, Richie, and I killed about 10 bottles of wine [laughs]. I haven’t seen Jon in a while, but we were definitely having a great time the last time I saw him. Can you explain to me why Jon Bon Jovi collects royalties from Skid Row’s debut album? Because he helped us out. He took us on the road for the whole New Jersey tour, and we signed what was called a production deal at the time, which gave him a cut of the proceeds if we were successful. The last thing anybody ever thought would happen. But actually we were quite successful. It wasn’t exactly an overnight success. It took at least two weeks. On the road with him, it was a quick rise. You don’t seem bothered that he still gets a cut. Some people say [Jon Bon Jovi] got overcompensated. But as years go by, I look at the chance we were given, and most likely, we never would have made it without going on that tour. That’s a very diplomatic answer. Yeah. But we were also given Bon Jovi’s accountant, a guy by the name of Bruce Colgretter, if you really want to get into the nitty-gritty. That was [pauses, laughs] very handy. |
In early 1988, Jon’s interest in his hometown friend’s band led to this locally popular outfit being signed to McGhee Entertainment Inc. Soon afterwards, Skid Row landed a recording contract with Atlantic Records. Jon used his considerable influence to trumpet the virtues of this new band every chance he got in media interviews. And he provided them with valuable exposure by hiring them to play support to Bon Jovi on part of their next tour. It pleased Jon to be able to help Dave Sabo in this way. --- Bach had developed a problem with the terms of the contract Skid Row had entered into years earlier with Jon and Richie’s New Jersey Underground Music Company. The needle he felt about this was now spilling out on stage in remarks about the headliners. ~ From the book "Jon Bon Jovi, The Biography" by Laura Jackson
Doc's younger brother Scott became Skid Row's manager and in return for songwriting advice, Jon signed them to a publishing deal with his and Richie Sambora's company New Jersey Underground Music. In their naivety, Skid Row agreed to a deal that ceded a large proportion of their future earning to this company. Skid Row have now sold millions of records but have yet to see most of the money. ~ Star Man: The Right Hand Man of Rock 'n' Roll by Michael Francis |
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