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rolo_tomachi 07-22-2020 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave 1986 (Post 1265782)
Another necro’d thread for another of Jon’s 1 minute reviews;

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CC89MrH...d=eewpvg6uv7el

Crush is 20 years old this year and he’s still very fond of the album and acknowledged its poppier sound but I was amazed that he listed “She’s a Mystery” amongst his favourites. I’ve always liked the song myself although a lot of people here don’t.

I’ve always had a funny relationship with this album. It was my first Bon Jovi album, had it for my 14th Birthday the year it was released. There are some great songs and some weak ones. Sometimes I love playing it and other time’s I just don’t really care for it.

She is a Mystery feels atmospheric, but my favorite slow is Mystery Train.

about that double album conversation ... Crush is the perfect album for this. I might love a double crush album ... and well, we still haven't heard some songs that were in sex sells.

Regardless, I understand it's not a double album, as they were at an uncertain point in their career, and releasing a double album would have been suicide.

Dave 1986 07-22-2020 11:23 PM

Crush
 
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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1265794)
She is a Mystery feels atmospheric, but my favorite slow is Mystery Train.


“Mystery Train” is great. One of the highlights of the album for me. It’s an all-out pop song and winds things down nicely after three rockers that preceded it. My opinion on most songs from Crush vary all the time but this song has always been a constant. The live version on the Japanese Special Edition Bonus CD is great as well.

GabrielC 07-23-2020 01:56 AM

She's a Mystery is one of the worst songs from the Bon Jovi catalogue. So weird that Jon likes it, considering he never even played it live.

Captain_jovi 07-23-2020 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1265803)
She's a Mystery is one of the worst songs from the Bon Jovi catalogue. So weird that Jon likes it, considering he never even played it live.

Thought that was weird too! I have a theory it was rehearsed for the Lost Highway tour I'm maybe....75% sure is accurate.

YOVANAfromPeru 07-23-2020 02:39 AM

My Top 3: Save The World, Thank You For Loving Me and It’s My Life.
After These Days: the "very dark" record, came Crush: the "whole happy" record. And basically we stood there, but worse... >_< jaja

Alphavictim 07-23-2020 03:42 AM

VERY much an "of its time" as a record, but then, so is These Days. Insane to think that the time between Crush and These Days is way shorter than the time that has passed between What About Now and right now.

IML - it's a classic, and a good song.
Thank You - the last "proper" power ballad they did IMO.
Two Story Town - shades of "Out Of Bounds", but obviously a way different sound. Good song.
Just Older - barely among my favs. I like the idea of the song more than the actual writing. Springsteen in sound and a more mature, older JBJ, but it falls a little flat IMO.
OWN - good song.

The rest is okay (CC) to meh (I Got The Girl).

steel_horse75 07-23-2020 09:05 AM

Crush
 
Have a love hate relationship with this album.

Like most of it but it’s the start of patchy albums.
Some garbage on here like thank you for loving me, capt crash, and she’s a mystery (think this is a DA rejected song).
It was a poppier sound and it worked some and not on others.

I really like IML, I could make a living, next 100 years, one wild night and neurotica.


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Xavi 07-23-2020 10:35 AM

"from Its My Life to a fan favourite Captain Crash" says the text that Jon wrote on instagram.
Captain Crash? A fan favourite?
WTF,holy shit,for gods sake,hell,.....,,.,,.,,.aaggg

KeepTheFaith2211 07-23-2020 12:30 PM

Can’t listen to it anymore. The sound is as dated as BJ and 7800 (except they’re stronger albums). Some songs are still very good but go out of my way to listen to live versions of I want a Crush fix.

Supersonic 07-23-2020 02:07 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1265835)
"from Its My Life to a fan favourite Captain Crash" says the text that Jon wrote on instagram.

I kind of see where he's coming from. For a good decade the front row at European concerts consisted of morons throwing confetti and requesting Captain Crash. Not because they liked the song but because it made Jon respond to them.

As for Crush; it's a dated album and most of the songs on it just aren't very good. They tried blending Britpop, which was on its last legs, with the sound of boybands, which were also on its last legs. Luke Ebbin got a lot of credit for making Bon Jovi sound fresh but without It's My Life hardly anyone would've heard this album as most of the rest of the record is forgettable. As a result the album was liked by those who listened to pop music but despised by those who listened to rock music.

Most of it didn't go over well in concert either, the new songs constant switched positions and it never really worked. Say It Isn't So, Next 100 Years, Two Story Town and Thank You For Loving Me all went over like a lead balloon and caused a real low point in the set when playing back to back.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

BJFan99 07-23-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1265850)
I kind of see where he's coming from. For a good decade the front row at European concerts consisted of morons throwing confetti and requesting Captain Crash. Not because they liked the song but because it made Jon respond to them.

*cough* Backstagers *cough*

steel_horse75 07-23-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1265835)
"from Its My Life to a fan favourite Captain Crash" says the text that Jon wrote on instagram.

Captain Crash? A fan favourite?

WTF,holy shit,for gods sake,hell,.....,,.,,.,,.aaggg

Its my 2nd favourite song after WSYCGH......to go for a piss during the gig.

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faith1985 07-23-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1265803)
She's a Mystery is one of the worst songs from the Bon Jovi catalogue. So weird that Jon likes it, considering he never even played it live.

I think the lyrics are beautiful...

Faceman 07-23-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1265850)
I kind of see where he's coming from. For a good decade the front row at European concerts consisted of morons throwing confetti and requesting Captain Crash. Not because they liked the song but because it made Jon respond to them.

That's true.
But the other truth is that it made a whole stadium wave their arms - if the people liked the song or not. So Jon's point of view is understandable.

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Originally Posted by Supersonic (Post 1265850)
Most of it didn't go over well in concert either, the new songs constant switched positions and it never really worked. Say It Isn't So, Next 100 Years, Two Story Town and Thank You For Loving Me all went over like a lead balloon and caused a real low point in the set when playing back to back.

But that's always been the problem with new album tracks.
Even in the 90s the audience got silent when too much new tracks got played right in a row. It was just that the rest of the set and the band's performance made up for it way better than in the 2000s.

KeepTheFaith2211 07-23-2020 04:04 PM

Next 100 Years, Mystery Train and One Wild Night were ignored way too much in the aftermath though. I give the band credit for changing the set each night but they have ignored half of their catalogue for about twenty years.

Xavi 07-23-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1265853)
Its my 2nd favourite song after WSYCGH......to go for a piss during the gig.

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Ive only gone for a piss twice at a Jovi show.
First was in NJ 2010 during Who Says
Second was in Milan 2013 during Amen.

Supersonic 07-23-2020 06:54 PM

Aloha !

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1265859)
But that's always been the problem with new album tracks.
Even in the 90s the audience got silent when too much new tracks got played right in a row. It was just that the rest of the set and the band's performance made up for it way better than in the 2000s.

I disagree with this. There's a difference between a quiet audience or an audience that gets restless. Anytime the new stuff got played crowds grew restless. Two songs of Crush back to back sucked the life out of a show.

When Bon Jovi toured Keep The Faith every song played off the album worked when played live. There was no need to keep shuffling the songs around. The band were able to tour These Days in 1996 and play album cuts without any problem. They tried the same with Crush on the One Wild Night Tour and songs from Crush were always limited to just 5. Mystery Train, Two Story Town, Next 100 Years and Thank You For Loving Me showed up occasionaly and always went over like a lead balloon.

No such thing happened with any Bon Jovi album before and it's because the songs just aren't good enough. No one's requested any of those songs after the album cycle ended either just like no one's asking for Joey, Welcome To Wherever You Are or most of the The Circle either.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

steel_horse75 07-23-2020 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1265866)
Ive only gone for a piss twice at a Jovi show.

First was in NJ 2010 during Who Says

Second was in Milan 2013 during Amen.

I went for a piss and a browse at the tshirts at wembley last year during the lost highway combo

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