bonjovi90 |
09-15-2019 01:38 PM |
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Originally Posted by Johny
(Post 1258923)
Nice discussion going on here:)
I have to disagree that BB was put together from older recordings. A few songs are outtakes from earlier sessions but they were newly recorded for BB. I think it was confirmed. Otherwise we would have Richie playing and singing there as well. I doubt they'd take only Jon's vocals from past and then record everything else again.I can imagine that many of the songs hadn't been finished when they started putting BB together. Those might have been just acoustic demos.
Still it's a fresh album. I'd love if they weren't afraid to experiment a bit like that on a normal albums. Just like I Will Drive You Home which made it only as a bonus track.
I've been thinking that THINFS bonus tracks added to BB (and leaving out the crap like Color Me In, We All Fall Down, Life Is Beautiful and Take Back The Night) would make a really good album.
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Half agree/half disagree here.
I think that some of the material really was lifted from the past and maybe just had some overdubs on it. On songs like Blind Love, Jon stated that he had recorded it about a decade earlier, forgotten about, then found it and decided to "put it on there". I see a few of these in the same vein as, e.g. Lonely, where Jon wrote a song, made a demo with Shanks and that was it. Bar Saturday Night, they only took older stuff that had no co-writing by Richie, so it's very possible that some demos just were tweaked a bit further. Like on the Box Set where they also probably did a few overdubs on some songs without re-recording everything.
Some stuff might've been done from scratch again, but I'm having a hard time believing that the vocals for WWYDF are from 2015 since I've had a long conversation with a record producer that said that you can't manifacture rasp to that kind of extent. Or Jon did one line a day on that song to get this sound. Which would be a pretty hefty effort for a record he didn't care for and "threw in in a brown paper bag".
I'm completely agreeing about them not risking anything though. Every era had at least something like two or three interesting tracks that were out of the norm, but them sticking to the same damn formula for the album tracks is what makes it forgettable. We have had one decent rocker in the last decade and that was We Don't Run, an outtake thrown onto BB. Some exciting "ambient" sounds like Who Would You Die For, DA-styled I Will Drive You Home, a semi-good, but remotely interesting rocker with All Hail The King, a halfway decent solo on Into The Echo, for once soaring guitars on Teardrop To The Sea, a decent outro solo on an otherwise boring Fingerprints and the only real country rock tune with Put The Boy Back In Cowboy. All of these were B-side/bonus tracks or complete outtakes.
Which probably is why many fans are longing for another box set. The stuff that wasn't deemed "good or fitting enough" is probably the material that's actually musically and sonically interesting.
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