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steel_horse75 08-11-2020 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1266221)
Yes fair point! I'd forgotten about that!!


So has everyone else....already.


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YOVANAfromPeru 08-12-2020 03:32 AM

https://www.delilah.com/podcast
JBJ talking about Do What You Can, video, the 2020 album and of course the Soul Kitchens.
"it's not a boy girl record" buhhhh...

YOVANAfromPeru 08-12-2020 05:12 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpv-...outu.be&t=2213
Phil X: "it's a short cool solo" for Beautiful Drug

rolo_tomachi 08-12-2020 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1266230)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpv-...outu.be&t=2213
Phil X: "it's a short cool solo" for Beautiful Drug

I'm starting to have high expectations with this. Phil is very proud of that solo.

bonjovi90 08-12-2020 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1266236)
I'm starting to have high expectations with this. Phil is very proud of that solo.

We more or less know by now how that solo sounds...

Roll 08-13-2020 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1266228)
https://www.delilah.com/podcast
JBJ talking about Do What You Can, video, the 2020 album and of course the Soul Kitchens.
"it's not a boy girl record" buhhhh...

Wouldn't that be kind of dumb if Jon wrote something like "You were born to be my baby" at nearly 60 ?

In my opinion and regardless of what I think of the songs, Jon is right to write and sing Unbroken, American Reckoning or Do what you can if that's what he feels like doing.
The mistakes are songs like Limitless which don't belong anywhere.

Captain_jovi 08-13-2020 01:53 AM

I don't think there's anything wrong with boy/girl songs and well written love songs (either ballad or not). Said it before but I'll take the hyper-specific topic's he's writing over Live-your-life but I'd be down for more boy-girl stuff if the effort is there. I have a sneaking suspicion Shine and Luv Can fell more into that world and losing them tipped the vibe of the album.

YOVANAfromPeru 08-13-2020 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Roll (Post 1266240)
Wouldn't that be kind of dumb if Jon wrote something like "You were born to be my baby" at nearly 60 ?

In my opinion and regardless of what I think of the songs, Jon is right to write and sing Unbroken, American Reckoning or Do what you can if that's what he feels like doing.
The mistakes are songs like Limitless which don't belong anywhere.

He plays Born To Be My Baby almost every concert. Now, if you talk about writing a boy girl song now, there's nothing wrong with that. Like if you are into your 60 don't have feelings?
Anyway, he said a record not a song (he already said this record is about hope, life and love and that there are some songs that express different emotions, since the environment, politics and human relations.)
Zzzzz... lol

GabrielC 08-13-2020 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Roll (Post 1266240)
Wouldn't that be kind of dumb if Jon wrote something like "You were born to be my baby" at nearly 60 ?

In my opinion and regardless of what I think of the songs, Jon is right to write and sing Unbroken, American Reckoning or Do what you can if that's what he feels like doing.
The mistakes are songs like Limitless which don't belong anywhere.

Nothing against boy-girl songs. Superman Tonight, Make a Memory, Thick as Thieves and many others from the recent albums are great.

steel_horse75 08-13-2020 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielC (Post 1266244)
Nothing against boy-girl songs. Superman Tonight, Make a Memory, Thick as Thieves and many others from the recent albums are great.


I’d rather these than songs like the 4 we have heard from 2020 so far.


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Captain_jovi 08-13-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1266245)
I’d rather these than songs like the 4 we have heard from 2020 so far.


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So you....don't like the new songs?

rolo_tomachi 08-13-2020 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Roll (Post 1266240)
Wouldn't that be kind of dumb if Jon wrote something like "You were born to be my baby" at nearly 60 ?

In my opinion and regardless of what I think of the songs, Jon is right to write and sing Unbroken, American Reckoning or Do what you can if that's what he feels like doing.
The mistakes are songs like Limitless which don't belong anywhere.

the content of the song was never the problem for me. An artist has to write and compose what he feels at that moment. I repeat, the problem is not the content, but the form. Since it has been too predictable for years.

I suppose that after 30 years, Jon has the right to remain stagnant in this aspect, but it is a shame. Need a change in the direction about the sound, and a band more immersed in the album, where each one has some brilliance... would do it all add to better.

steel_horse75 08-13-2020 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1266248)
So you....don't like the new songs?

Not my cuppa brew....but you know that.
Not many long term fans do going by social media comments.

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Captain_jovi 08-14-2020 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1266251)
Not my cuppa brew....but you know that.
Not many long term fans do going by social media comments.

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Why aren't people allowed to like it?

angelsambo 08-14-2020 09:57 AM

Phil X: "Livin’ on a Prayer is one of best rock songs ever. I still get goosebumps after playing it hundreds of times!"

https://www.guitarworld.com/features...dreds-of-times

''What you can tell me about the new Bon Jovi album?

"Jon had it all mapped out. Lyrically and musically, he had something to say. We all got into the studio last year and recoded the bed tracks over a period of 11 days. Then Jon went over his favorites and we finished the songs and shot two videos. There’s a particular solo on one of the songs, Beautiful Drug, that I’m really proud of."

What’s it like working with Jon?

"Jon is such a visionary and knows exactly what he’s looking for. I’ve been a session guy for so long that I know the vocal lyric is king, and as a guitar player in the studio it’s my job to bring that to life."

steel_horse75 08-14-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1266252)
Why aren't people allowed to like it?


They are....a lot don’t


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Captain_jovi 08-14-2020 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1266255)
They are....a lot don’t


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More so what I mean is....why do you constantly feel like you need to remind people that you side with the people that don't? Almost out of nowhere?

Roll 08-14-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1266243)
He plays Born To Be My Baby almost every concert. Now, if you talk about writing a boy girl song now, there's nothing wrong with that. Like if you are into your 60 don't have feelings?
Anyway, he said a record not a song (he already said this record is about hope, life and love and that there are some songs that express different emotions, since the environment, politics and human relations.)
Zzzzz... lol

He plays them because they're hits. Singing songs and writing songs are different things.
And of course you have feelings at 60, I just think you express them in a different way from the one you do at 30. But that's just my opinion. And Jon's so it seems :mrgreen: Too bad that's the only thing we agree about musically speaking :D

steel_horse75 08-14-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1266261)
More so what I mean is....why do you constantly feel like you need to remind people that you side with the people that don't? Almost out of nowhere?

To **** you off .
My point was loads are complaining about the new material when jon tries to be Bruce. He should stick to what he does best and if that's boy girl songs so be it as they have been the best songs on the last few albums.

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rolo_tomachi 08-16-2020 02:09 PM

I always wish the next Bon Jovi album was produced by Brendan O'Brien. Some day...?

angelsambo 08-16-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1266335)
I always wish the next Bon Jovi album was produced by Brendan O'Brien. Some day...?

I would choose Dave Cobb

Jack27 08-21-2020 09:05 AM

There’s a picture of Phil on Instagram saying “i’m SO not into flying today” as he travels to an airport. Perhaps the live recording Jon was mentioning of the new album?

faith1985 08-21-2020 02:50 PM

And Hugh was practicing as well.I think it is very nice that they are getting more creative.

And doing a performing the whole album and streaming it is a great idea.

Faceman 08-21-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1266388)
And doing a performing the whole album and streaming it is a great idea.

Yeah, just like it was with Lost Highway...

faith1985 08-21-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1266389)
Yeah, just like it was with Lost Highway...

You mean the one where they put on this pretty amazing version of Any Other Day?
Jon has done a nice thing with involving fans within Do what you can and the acoustic concert was not bad at alland now they are streaming the whole album. Why is that bad? If you dont like the music it is one thing, but it is something he also does for the fans plus he is donating money coming in from American Reckoning.he has done a lot more with these things than most people I know.Yes,he has got the resources and not a 9-to-5 job, but still. Plus the foodbank he is literally working at.

bonjovi90 08-21-2020 03:51 PM

He was probably referring to Jon performing Lost Highway in its entirety (also during tour concerts) went over like a lead balloon due to the many slow songs.

With THINFS, I found it somewhat interesting due to the personal stories inbetween, but from what I've heard thus far, I fear it's going to be rather dragging because of the slow-paced songs this time around.

JackieBlue 08-21-2020 03:58 PM

I enjoyed the THINFS promo shows better than the live shows from the tour itself. And I may be one of the few, but I actually liked the Lost Highway DVD. (Then again, I really like the Lost Highway album a lot; so that could be part of it!) :)

I'm hoping when they do 2020 I'll like the songs better in comtext; but I guess we'll see.

faith1985 08-21-2020 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1266391)
He was probably referring to Jon performing Lost Highway in its entirety (also during tour concerts) went over like a lead balloon due to the many slow songs.

With THINFS, I found it somewhat interesting due to the personal stories inbetween, but from what I've heard thus far, I fear it's going to be rather dragging because of the slow-paced songs this time around.

I think it would be weird at a normal concert but if they doit like THINFS, it'll be interesting.

I don't think there are many slow songs on there. American Reckoning and Unbroken, yes, but most of the other ones should be more up beat.

And this time I think more people here are ok with the new songs.

Captain_jovi 08-21-2020 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1266391)
He was probably referring to Jon performing Lost Highway in its entirety (also during tour concerts) went over like a lead balloon due to the many slow songs.

With THINFS, I found it somewhat interesting due to the personal stories inbetween, but from what I've heard thus far, I fear it's going to be rather dragging because of the slow-paced songs this time around.

That's a REALLY good point. Tonally it hasn't been to uptempo. Like or em or not, LH at least had some "up" sounding songs.

bonjovi90 08-21-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1266392)
I enjoyed the THINFS promo shows better than the live shows from the tour itself. And I may be one of the few, but I actually liked the Lost Highway DVD. (Then again, I really like the Lost Highway album a lot; so that could be part of it!) :)

I'm hoping when they do 2020 I'll like the songs better in comtext; but I guess we'll see.

I'm hoping the same because, so far, I've been more than underwhelmed by them. And I actually liked THINFS at the time :D
Ironically, I enjoy the LH album, but never got into that Live DVD they released there.

rolo_tomachi 08-21-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1266386)
There’s a picture of Phil on Instagram saying “i’m SO not into flying today” as he travels to an airport. Perhaps the live recording Jon was mentioning of the new album?

mmm, When did Jon say live recording? As far as I know, he said a recording of the album as a movie or something, but he didn't say anything live. I understood that they would record videos for the rest of the songs and present it as a movie.

bonjovi90 08-21-2020 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1266396)
mmm, When did Jon say live recording? As far as I know, he said a recording of the album as a movie or something, but he didn't say anything live. I understood that they would record videos for the rest of the songs and present it as a movie.

Given that Limitless and Unbroken basically have no storylines and especially none that you can connect to a movie, I very much was under the assumption they'd play it live in some setting and then release it in order to make up for the cancelled concerts.
That "all videos" thing was a deal on the side of Tidal who paid for them to be made and I'm not sure something like this is in place this time around.

Captain_jovi 08-21-2020 09:30 PM

Yeah no one said movie and no one said anything about each song getting a video. The odds of them doing that feel slim and it's much more likely to be a life performance separated like the wine thing was.

rolo_tomachi 08-21-2020 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1266398)
Yeah no one said movie and no one said anything about each song getting a video. The odds of them doing that feel slim and it's much more likely to be a life performance separated like the wine thing was.

"Very proud of this album.
October the 2nd.
Not tour dates unfortunately.
But we're planing to film, pay attention people,
we're planing to film the album in its entirety for television broadcast and certainly on the internet.

So you're able to see the record that we made.
And we'll be doing it very very soon."


Sorry, but this doesn't sound like a random live show. It seems that they will be shooting images to accompany the songs on the album. Although I could be wrong.

Captain_jovi 08-21-2020 10:58 PM

I mean yeah, we know what he said. "Film" is a pretty broad term, as a verb that'd be an acceptable way to say they're taping a live band performance but logistically filming the entire album in a story sense in the middle of a pandemic.....why would he....do that?

rolo_tomachi 08-21-2020 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1266400)
I mean yeah, we know what he said. "Film" is a pretty broad term, as a verb that'd be an acceptable way to say they're taping a live band performance but logistically filming the entire album in a story sense in the middle of a pandemic.....why would he....do that?

Ok, I'm just saying that I didn't see the word Live anywhere.

JackieBlue 08-22-2020 01:23 AM

I just made the assumption that it was going to be like the LH DVD. With adjustments for the pandemic, of course.

I mean, is there some reason why they couldn't all get tested and, assuming no one is infected, set it up using a small stage/studio like they did at Grainger for LH or at one of the venues they used for the THINFS promos? Or am I oversimplifying?

Captain_jovi 08-22-2020 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1266402)
I just made the assumption that it was going to be like the LH DVD. With adjustments for the pandemic, of course.

I mean, is there some reason why they couldn't all get tested and, assuming no one is infected, set it up using a small stage/studio like they did at Grainger for LH or at one of the venues they used for the THINFS promos? Or am I oversimplifying?

Nope that's dead on in the realm of possibility. If the band and crew are all tested, they should have the go-ahead. Alternatively it could be set up like the Hampton Water one was to limit the possibility of infection

Jack27 08-22-2020 02:26 PM

Realistically when do you think we’ll see the outcome?

Captain_jovi 08-22-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1266406)
Realistically when do you think we’ll see the outcome?

*shrugs* No way of knowing at this point until they say something. We know so little about how far into rehearsals they are.


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