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Captain_jovi 07-24-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1265963)
I don't think it's any bands aim, but it gets to a poin where you relaise that you're older and radio isn't going the play you anymore and you just get out there and do it. Journey's set is 90% 80s stuff and has be for 20 years. Guns is probably 70% 80s, early 90s. They are certainly comfortable with it.

There's a great quote from Rob Thomas in this clip that I think sums it up pretty well about how you relaise that you get to a point where you're not going to be massive anymore, but thats' ok, you have your core fans what will follow whatever you do

https://youtu.be/Z4hK7t-IgnU?t=132

Very off topic but I've always loved Rob Thomas's candor during interviews, he always seemed to "get it".

Butters 07-24-2020 10:29 PM

Love the song and an 8 for me. I've listened to it a bunch of times; it's catchy as hell. I love the upbeat and positive vibe. It feels comfortable, and very 'Bon Jovi'.

Sure, Jon's vocals suck and the production is OTT because it has to be to cover his vocal weaknesses.

Johny 07-24-2020 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim (Post 1265950)
-Def Leppard: New album every 5 years or so, if that. They do reinvent themselves a bit, too, but the frequency is much lower

I get your point but Def Leppard, as much as I love them, are a nostalgia act. They tour almost every year (kudos to them) and the sets are basically Hysteria megahits + Pyromania hits and a few other songs in a quite short setlist (don't count the Vegas residency now)

The frequency of albums is also longer. 2002, 2008, 2015 and no plans for anything new.

IML88 07-24-2020 11:52 PM

Horrible. Just horrible.

rolo_tomachi 07-25-2020 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1265961)
The band in 2020 has zero in common with Poison so to be honest, I kinda get that. A Poison audience is no longer a Bon Jovi audience.

Not sure he even wants to be a peer of Adams, he wants to be on the same level as The Stones.

Jon pursues the success and greatness of U2 in his own way.

Rdkopper 07-25-2020 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1265969)
Jon pursues the success and greatness of U2 in his own way.

I am far from being a U2 fan and the last known memory I have of them doing anything is some album they gave away for free... I couldn't tell you one song they've done or one thing they've released after that.

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musiccritic101 07-25-2020 10:14 AM

6/10

Do What You can is very upbeat and catchy, but in terms of the production it's the same old tired formula. Jon's vocals are again auto-tuned, Jon's vocal delivery in the verses heavily lack any emotion or conviction but it does pick up during the chorus,the auto-tune seems to pay off in this area because Jon's vocals sound near his 2010 vocals. To me it sounds as if Jon decided to use layer his vocals in the chorus so it sounds slightly thicker.

For me the chorus is probably the only thing that stands out on this track, overall it's a good track but heavy overproduction and poor vocal delivery are the let downs in this song.

Thinny 07-25-2020 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1265970)
I am far from being a U2 fan and the last known memory I have of them doing anything is some album they gave away for free... I couldn't tell you one song they've done or one thing they've released after that.

Same, I couldn't name a thing they've done in the last in probably 15 years. But are Bon Jovi any different? Would a non fan be able to name anything they've done in the last 15 years? I doubt it. In England, the last thing the average person remembers is It's My Life and that was 20 years ago. I guess America may remember Who Says? but still that's 15 years ago. Nothing from the last few albums have been in the consience of the general public.

U2 however, seems to retain a lot more respect, probably because they were always seen as a more respectable band even back in the day.

rolo_tomachi 07-25-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1265970)
I am far from being a U2 fan and the last known memory I have of them doing anything is some album they gave away for free... I couldn't tell you one song they've done or one thing they've released after that.

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Superman Tonight screams U2 from all sides. We have even criticized John Shanks for it.

Faceman 07-25-2020 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1265974)
Same, I couldn't name a thing they've done in the last in probably 15 years. But are Bon Jovi any different? Would a non fan be able to name anything they've done in the last 15 years? I doubt it. In England, the last thing the average person remembers is It's My Life and that was 20 years ago. I guess America may remember Who Says? but still that's 15 years ago. Nothing from the last few albums have been in the consience of the general public.

U2 however, seems to retain a lot more respect, probably because they were always seen as a more respectable band even back in the day.

I agree with you - but I would say Have A Nice Day was the last single even average persons might remember. At least it's the case with people I know.

To me there's nothing wrong with Jon wanting to stay relevant. The way he tries to just annoys me.
I don't expect them to write another Slippery/KTF/TD. Those days are 1. gone and 2. would tank big due to today's music.
What I expect is some creativity instead of the same formula over and over again. I wasn't a big fan of We Don't Run when it came out. But it was the first song in more than a decade that had a fresh sound and still being Bon Jovi (at least what's left of them). Songs like A Teardrop To The Sea or Who Would You Die For gave the same impression. If they had followed that direction with 2020 I'd be much more satisfied with their output. But what I've heard so far it's the same stuff we already heard a thousand times.
Btw. by saying that - Limitless, to me, is more of a We Don't Run copy than another It's my Life clone. So I'm not that critical about that song although I haven't listened to it more than once after its release (and once more when a radio station played it while I drove in my car).


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